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XCNuse
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Quote from danthebangerboy :Shhh! :hide:

haha, it's okay it took me like 5 minutes until I figured out what was going on lol I thought they were talking about T1 and 2 the whole time haha!
XCNuse
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DYK The moon is 30% glass material on exterior which makes it highly reflective.

@Tristan.. all the cheese is on the inside! .. btw, It's not American Cheese as most suspected..
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Ohh okay, I have the x230, which was $50, nice speakers I think, lightweight and easy for travel!

lol that's some serious speakers there though, that's like the useless 15" sub we have downstairs which is so insane no one touches it, friend gave it to me for free thought it wasn't working... plugged it in to TV.. all the walls shook in the house.. it works lol!

100 pounds is a lot of money though! well.. maybe that's just me, but I always see you talking about buying all this stuff lol
Makes me jealous
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Quote from patrese :3 sec in your case, yet you still seem to think you can comment on braking points.

Yes but everyone will back me up on the fact that those brake points you're referring to are STRAIGHT LINE brake points.. that makes a HUGE difference.
A 5 degree change in direction.. twice.. will lengthen your braking distance far more than you think.
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Meh.. i got it all in front of me..

I'm 173 cm (close enough)
Chair is 61 cm from desk (I guess I should do the leg, that's the top which doesn't count.., the legs are 56cm from the desk)
Center of wheel is 13cm from desk.

Also.. unfortunate to me, mine has a lip with a bad drop off so I can't use third desk lock on the wheel so it's only holding on to my desk lip by like.. barely 1 inch lol
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Quote from halo :Exactly CXNuse, I agree thats the safest way to do to avoid contacts & being cursed by LFS's famous damage dynamics.

Racing with tight margins is maybe good for IRL competitions but in LFS we are racing like we had some major disabilities (you can count lags, viewing differences, controller difficulties/limitations etc).

Yea, that's why I almost always back off first because I'm not as crazy as the next person may be lol, I always brake early if anyone knows me, like I said, better safe than sorry!

I would much rather be pulling half second slower lap times than ruin an entire race!

@dan, he BARELY overtook them, top down he was like 3" at best bumper to bumper, that is hardly an overtake, especially if you're on the inside of a turn and braking late for an XRG.

If you are going to over take you have to follow through, just because you're ahead doesn't mean you have complete control. And yes, he totally went into his line, he cut both of the GTis off, you sure you're watching the right lap lol? It isn't until like 3/4ths the way through
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By the looks of your pictures, I think you may be okay unless you're like really tall.

If you put your chair all the way back, I think you'll have plenty of room.

Just for measurement's sake, I'm 5"8' and from where I sit (yours legs will be fine), from where I sit, my arms extended fully, are about 1" short from the back of my Momo racing wheel, so if you do like I said and get some paper and get some measurements and try that out, you should be fine.

I sit close to the wheel compared to some people though so it depends on your style.

Pulling out a measuring tape, my chair is just less than 2 feet from the edge of my desk. But like I said, I sit closer than some people i've seen so...



edit, I got a better idea...
The center grips of my Momo Racing is 5.5" from the edge of my desk (where I hold my wheel is 5 and a half inches from the edge) so.. I believe the G25 is probably something similar to that, I would say get a book and measure 5.5" out from your desk and put your hands there and see if that's comfortable to you.
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I know this sounds cheesy, but you could kinda make a desk or something if you have something in your room that's about the hight of the desk and put the speaker over there, you won't have the ledge covering it all.. wouldn't be as symetrical, but that would work out the best imo without putting the speakers in weird places.
XCNuse
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Uh..

I don't know if I was supposed to fix it, but I just did.

Really it's just a problem between people with HUGE monitors and us with small ones.

There is no other way of really fixing it, I saved it I'm guessing the way he wants it (in a 4 way grid), otherwise it's just a fault of how computers work..

space = 0/1
if 0 continue line until end
if 1 begin new line
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Oh no no I completely agree, accidents happen and that's what this is, I'm just saying, to keep stuff like this from happening (which I'm sure everyone does lol) all you have to do is know how to hold your line in a turn when people are near, even if they aren't necessarily right next to you.

All just a learning process..
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omg Jak, I can't believe you got that system lol hook it up to a TV what are you doing?!

As for cable, the distances you're running coax will be just fine, and it will be much cheaper than the optical, you really don't notice the difference between those until you start running them over 50 ft (if you're like have crazy insane hearing and swear you hear a difference.. imo its just the placebo effect), but really don't actually hear a difference until hundreds of feet.

Just go to a local .. I don't think you guys have RadioShack, but whatever store like that is similar, probably just a standard 4 gauge wire should be beyond plenty.

Where do you get all this money from?!
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This file is old and outdated, it doesn't work on the wheel anymore.
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Yea with your table getting a shifter on left probably isn't going to happen lol, or at least it would make it awkward...

Screw the wheel, get a game pad and get a new table

Just kidding, I would keep thinking about it though. Unplug your monitor and take a piece of paper with the dimensions of a wheel on it (depth and width), and move it around until you get something you like.. That's what I would do personally.

Really the problem lies in your speakers, if you had different speakers, those wouldn't be in the way and you could have your monitor all the way on the right, but those speakers are just in the way.

If you got some nice smaller speakers (logitech makes excellent speakers for pretty cheap!, check out their 2.5 speaker systems, I have one from a few years ago and they have an excelent sound range for a $45 system!) and had your monitor set on the right side of desk, you would have plenty of space for a G25 and the shifter to be on your left (guestimating by the looks of everything)

I'm not sure about the dimensions of the shifter for G25, someone else will have to give you those.
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@halo, the reason I didn't give fault to Ring is because he was going in a straight line, they were 3 deep in a line going into a turn. Even though he had space for less than a split second, you never try and take that space unless you want to get hit (like what happened)

Yes all were in brake point, but you brake together, you don't brake while turning to the outside of a turn just to make the turn better.. you were 3 wide going into the turn, you should consider that until you're out of the turn, not try and change it .. before the turn.

Better safe than sorry .. that's always the case.
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I would say (from experience with this)

Save your money, and buy a wheel, you have plenty of desk space, and if you need any more than you can easily clean off your desk just a bit to make a touch more space, but I promise you have plenty.

I was using a wireless Xbox 360 controller, and never got online.. for two reasons.
One I was at school.. internet was terribly slow the times I was playing so I would lag out near instantly.
Two the controls were so hard, it was near impossible for me to be consistent, now.. I'm not saying it's not possible, but getting used to a gamepad takes much more time than it would with a wheel and pedals.


Now, on to space wise again.

Take your computer box, move it to the left from where it is, that way you have leg room and can face it directly. Now you can have your keyboard off to your left a little bit, and a wheel will fit there in front of your monitory very easily, plus then you don't have to reach over the wheel to hit F9 F12 or type something, now it's.. right next to you which is much easier.

I vote for save your money and buy a wheel, it's worth it, I've had my Momo Racing wheel for 5 years now, besides a few issues with the pedals I have fixed myself.. no problems at all! Plus if you look around you can get them for really good prices!
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110 is not enough time to make the turn when you're on the wrong side of the track, you would have to cut over to the left like you were trying to do to make that turn, which would've extended your braking period.

I've been racing the XRG all morning by the way, but that's besides the point.

Reason you got hit from behind is because you slowed down and cut in on someone, that is both of your faults, but because you made an unpredictable move of cutting and braking simultaneously, the blame has to go on you, it's not proper to brake and cut someone like that before a turn, short braking is fine.. but cutting.. not okay.



I'm not saying you're a bad driver, you were looking over and you did have space, you had lots of space, but where you went wrong is you braked and then got over to left side, rather than the reverse order which could've saved you.


edit- Okay I just tested it again, if you were to do that turn like you were about to, it would've put you on outside of the turn and down in the 50mph or less range.
If you don't believe me I will make a replay to show you what would've happened to you.

Like I said, I'm not putting a blame on you or anything, I'm just saying.. that from that position that you were in, the take over would not have worked. It just so happens that was you.. but now you're getting fed up and think I'm hating on you, when I'm not, nor am I anyone else, I'm just stating what was happening.
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They can.. at discretion of OP and if the thread is getting out of hand, but it isn't really.

@Electric Eye, yea that's what the Germans that just had an interview with Victor said.

So, just with those words, the next patch is going to be far more than the VWS I am sure, it's going to be a big patch (especially after taking this long).

Methinks we will have some other surprise rather than just a Volkswagen.

But this baby HAULS!!!! Is like VRRROOoommMMMMMMm.. vats your hybrid svound like? HHhhhhhHHHHhhh ... Dats cool...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_y27chNLas

+1 for VW and awesome commercials!

Someone should strip that commercial and make an LFS version for the Scirocco lol, could be funny..

But.. as for being on topic, as the mighty devs always say.. It's done when it's done..
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oh.. right

didn't see it that way lol good point :dunce:
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Quote from DoC_uk :yes never ever ..ever brake when infront of another car !!

thats a huge nono in racing !

Why not?
It's a legitimate strategy that's been used forever.

Besides, remember in LFS you have lag, you have to anticipate when someone is going to brake, by the time you see their taillights, they've already been on the brakes for nearly half a second, and that.. makes a huge difference.


However, after watching the replay, it is Patrese's fault, he got on brakes early and cut in, he is responsible for not paying attention to his surroundings, he got on brakes and turned to outside at same time, no one would've seen that coming (least I wouldn't...) if you're going to go 3 wide in a turn, keep your line no matter where the cars are, don't try and get in front of them and then cause a crash.

I give the blame on Patrese, but that could be anyone's mistake, but you should know you give the right to the people in front of you, that was a late time to try and pass and survive, he wouldn't have made that turn if he tried.

By the way, I love the rewind feature of replays now, that's totally nifty!!!!

And after putting a line down and testing his position and brake point, it would have been impossible for him to make that move, he braked way to late, he could've kept his car on the track, but he would've lost the two positions he tried to gain, so.. I still give most blame to him.

Accident.. but it is still partially of his fault.
(anyone will try and brake late and think they can pass someone and keep going fast enough around the bend.. but that never happens.)
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Wow I didn't know you could get those cards in the Studio....

To bad the 17" studio sucks, can't get anything in it!
I still want to upgrade mine in my e1705 but it costs $500 to get the top of the line graphics card for mine and they're always breaking down on everyone...


But for the Studio 15, I personally would say bite the bullet, and spend $150 total price on the graphics card, get the faster one, it will matter a year later I promise.

I also would spend the extra $75 or whatever to get the 2.4GHz processor, not because of that, but because it's 1066mhz FSB, that.. is a big difference.

Then you can take that.. and select only 4GB of RAM, and that subtracts $115... RAM will be 1000x cheaper if you don't buy OEM, get something from newegg, 2GB of that ram isn't worth $115, I'm just saying, so if you do that, you're pretty much getting the graphics card for considerably cheaper.

Also, don't buy now, look for deals online, they should have some good ones soon when school starts up.

Also.. think about buying refurbished, you can save several hundred dollars that way too.
I got my Mini 9 refurbished (looks brand new still...) but I saved $200 on something that only cost me $169 and it's fully specced.
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Quote from BlueFlame :Muscle cars are bad around tracks tho,

Exxxxacctly

I just think we need severely different handling cars, kinda like when the MRT was dropped in LFS it was totally different, the LXs are totally different, but all the middle cars are just.. typical not bad handling cars, they can take a beating and are slow enough you can recover quite easily.
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imo we need a big block heavy muscle car I think before anything else, all the cars in LFS are to similar.

The only heavy and not so nimble car we have is the FZ50, but even then it still fits in with the others, we need some old chevy or something.
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Looks like you had fun, those are some crazy awesome mountains!

I want to go out west and see cool rock mountains like that with all the outcrops, all the ones here are just.. land slumps, not much rock showing unless you get an overhang.
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logitek, take advantage of the 'edit post' button.. that way you won't have triple postings.
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These stupid games piss me off, they aren't even that much fun!

When on earth are you going to be locked in a room that has no windows, no doors, but only a breifcase and a sliding trap opening that.. just has some colory buttons and some key to nothing.

Seriously, I gave up and tried to see if I could electrocute myself... but I failed.

If there is no opening, how'd you get in there anyway?!

But on a serious note.. this game is like 10 bagillion trazillion (ye.a.... holy shit that's a word?!)
anyways.. this is more fun here:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/learn-to-fly-game-battle
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