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tristancliffe
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Not exactly. It says the 4 lap race is in progress, but no indication of how much left to run.
tristancliffe
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Found it. Had the filter for servers in booking mode on. Will wait for the race to start and finish (grrrrrr)
tristancliffe
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Similar problem happened to me CardsetCrazy. Monza. Lots of cars flying everywhere when on the grid. Most had to start from pitlane once reset. Very odd.

So, who's got a server up? Not possible to search for players/friends yet is it?
tristancliffe
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Had a quick go earlier. Chose a non-empty server with best ping. Waited 4 minutes, and then couldn't join. So chose next one, which was a Formula Tatuus/Abarth server on Silverstone Stowe. Qualified 3rd, really good start (I remembered to put it in gear at the start, which is a stupid idea), and led for about 7 laps by about a second. Then backmarkers...

Some were really jumpy, others I don't think had ever seen a car, let alone driven one. Got rammed lots. Finished 3rd, 19 seconds down.

Booking system is retarded in principle AND badly executed. Won't judge playability/ping/jerkiness on one server though.

Not bad for an alpha feature in a pre-release though.
tristancliffe
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To quote a friend of mine
"Clarkson uses the 'N' word (in an old nursery rhyme) and all the red tops and Leftards jump on the bandwagon calling for the BBC to sack him. A rap artist uses it in a 'song' along with glamourising drugs, gun crime and wife beating and it's called musical expression!
I'm not saying he's right but a bit of perspective may be needed here! To quote his colleague 'he's a bellend, but not a racist'"
tristancliffe
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Oh no. I'll keep a look out for burning pitchforks.
tristancliffe
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But the poem "Eenie Meenie Minie Mo" is a racist poem. Replacing the N word with another word that rhymes doesn't make it less racist, it just means the user is trying to pretend for the sake of pointless political correctness.

It's like me calling someone who comes from Pakistan a 'useless baki'. I didn't use the letter p, so it's not racist?

Everyone who has ever thought or used the eenie meenie poem should be killed immediately. I am very offended*

*of course I'm not offended, because I'm not a retard

I forgot it's illegal to not think the same as everyone else.
tristancliffe
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Quote from Texpelt88 :Got me thinking, "What if you're in F1, half way through the race... and your nose started to itch really bad..."

It doesn't. Your brain switches off sense like itches, or the need to cough.
tristancliffe
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The rev counter, the speedo and the fact that in both pictures both cars are in the same position.
tristancliffe
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This isn't about winning or losing. In a competition you clearly want whatever is faster over a race or lap. I'm talking about fun. And I prefer stuff that makes ME faster - driver coaching, learning how to do setups, how to come off the brakes optimally. Real skills. I get way more pleasure from knowing that I rotated the car perfectly than because an active diff corrected 122 minor driver mistakes in one corner.

I get no reward from knowing that a computer is making me look like a good driver. I l'd have (and indeed do have) more self respect if I was making a few mistakes, being a bit slower, but doing it myself.

As there is very little adrenaline, and even less risk in sim racing, I don't get any enjoyment from driving a car that does a lot of it for me. Yes, you might think differently. As long as you recognise that I don't agree and why then I'm happy. You may well prefer a Nissan skyline because you have no throttle feel or don't like choosing your apex point entirely yourself.

Downforce isn't a driving aid really. It's a laptime aid, but not a driver aid. Often it means you just have a bigger, more expensive accident than a non-aero car.

Edit - and as I work with cars with/without aero, with/without any electronics, with/without throttle cables, with/without open differentials, with/without disk brakes, with/without threaded tyres, I have a pretty good idea of what improves a car, for me, in terms of fun or laptime or convenience or safety. I'll drive to work in a car with ABS, do a bit of an engine rebuild on an Aurelia, then do a setdown on a single seater to a decent working tolerance after unloading it from our truck.
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tristancliffe
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No doubt Hamilton is a lot better than he's ever been - up until this year he was almost always very very bad at "race management". Whilst one swallow does not make a summer, he does look to have improved in this regard, but I wouldn't consider him above average in thinking yet.

Hats off to him for keeping a quicker Rosberg at bay, but the track layout did help the defence a lot of the time. He still had to do it, but had this battle been at several other tracks he's have been unable to do manage it. Suspect that the season result will have more to do with reliability and the development race rather than driver attributes though, as their strengths cancel out the others weaknesses over a year. Probably. Maybe.
tristancliffe
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I personally prefer things that make me faster, not that artificially enhance my apparent skill set. I'd much rather brake, corner and accelerate due to my ability than because the car decided it could do better. For general road use, for pretty much everyone, there are obvious safety benefits, but for track use or in simulators then (for me) I'd much rather drive it myself than have a computer decide I've done something wrong and change my input. I derive no pleasure from computer assistance.

And no, I don't consider injection to be a driver aid. It's part of the engine, much like a piston or a cambelt. The driver should control the torque output manually for optimal enjoyment.

Definitely no frustrations about my own opinions, I can assure you of that
tristancliffe
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Ah, Reductio ad Absurdum.

Whilst I suppose you could call engine management a driver aid, you know perfectly what I meant. But I guess being stupid is the new cool. You're the coolest!
tristancliffe
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Oh yeah, they did back then didn't they. I tended to turn it off anyway. More fun.
tristancliffe
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And it doesn't have traction control, yaw control, ABS, active differentials, active aero... So it passes the test.
tristancliffe
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Adaptive damping is one thing, but in general I think active anything (other than aero?) is a driver aid. And nobody who likes driving wants driver aids, do they? I can see how they might stop grannies from crashing, but I thought driving enthusiasts liked the art of driving.

Sadly I'm wrong. Most enthusiasts like being shit at driving and needing an unintelligent computer to help. That's lame to me.
tristancliffe
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Oooh... Maybe the Deltawing/ZEOD thing. I can't think of a decent Nissan otherwise. I think they're most famous for the driver aids calculator on wheels, but I can't imagine how anyone who enjoys driving even a tiny bit could like that.
tristancliffe
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I'd have lots of free time if it wasn't for the day job and needing sleep.

Dennis - James Crofts keeps telling me that you're better than Kevin Magnussen. Not sure why I need to be told this, as I can't exactly do anything about it, but thought you'd like to know your names gets mentioned in a decent F1 context. So keep pushing!
tristancliffe
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Sadly I don't prance around in tights much these days, but I was asked yesterday if I wanted to audition for a part.

The racing itself doesn't make much time at all. That's a couple of hours of sitting in a car once a month. It's the fact that:

If the engine needs work/rebuilds/fettling then I have to do it myself in my evenings/weekends.
If the gearbox needs work/rebuilds/fettling then I have to do it myself in my evenings/weekends.
If the bodywork needs work/fettling then I have to do it myself in my evenings/weekends (although I don't personally do the actual painting, but I do do a lot of the prep and a lot of the carbon work).
If the data needs looking at between races then I have to do it myself in my evenings/weekends.
If I want the car setup before the race then I have to do it myself in my evenings/weekends.
If I want to work out what setup to put on the car, or what changes to make from last time then I have to do it myself in my evenings/weekends.
If I need tyres changing/fitting on the wheels (away from the weekend) then I have to do it myself in my evenings/weekends.
If the truck/quad/trolleys need work then I have to do it myself in my evenings/weekends.
If I need parts then I have to save up and order them, and then fit them.
If the workshop needs cleaning/tidying then I have to do it myself in my evenings/weekends.

In short, I don't have a lot of free time in my evenings and weekends.
tristancliffe
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Quote from Dennis93 :Lol.. Tristan complaining about not having time to drive because of real life racing.. That's a load of horse****.

Why is that horseshit?
tristancliffe
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Quote from jasonmatthews :Tristan you goddam pussy! Racing is not about being the best or winning races you knob, it's about racing. Racing is going door to door and loving the challenge even when you lose. You sound so much like a spoilt rich kid who's parents gave you the opportunities that normal SIM racers would dream of.

Who gives a shit if your quick online? No one.. Get in the sim and enjoy it you knobber

I have no interest in being the slow person on the grid. A lot of sim racers practice more than I do, and I can compete with that AND have fun.

Sorry if I come across as a spoilt rich kid. I admit my Dad has provided some funding (for instance, buying a racing car that I can race, at considerable economic strain to himself), but most of my racing is funded by my own income, and is why I go racing on roughly 15% of the budget of my rivals.

Quote from Kristi :Um, I smell some contradiction in that post, quite a big one even. You are calling online simracers selfish, yet you would happily take the chance away from the majority of the community, because you can't be assed to join a server and have fun. Sounds logical to me indeed.

I'm sure there will be pickup races like CTRA in LFS, and at that point, nobody cares if you are 1st or 15th. You have a place to go door to door with actual humans. Of course it feels good to win something, but hey you learn from your own mistakes, right?


I'm not saying they shouldn't do MP. Of course they should. I'm just saying I'm glad they are also working on AI (and probably in parallel with each other, not just a case of finishing one before starting on the other). I didn't like the CTRA system of having to prove myself to join a server. I can see the merits in it - it reduces the number of noobs and crashers - but I don't consider myself a noob or a crasher, so I don't like being excluded simply because I haven't done 30 hours online.

MP is great. But given my current restrictions, it's not for me. So I want some AI at some level.
tristancliffe
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I used to want a Rift. Not any more. What are the rivals called again? They'll get my money now.
tristancliffe
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As long as they don't cheat (more power/more grip), then I'm reasonably happy. Online requires too much dedication - dedication I used to have time for, but not any more. If there is no AI then it's just a hotlapping game, which is fun but I do need a but of wheel to wheel.

Barely used nKP , rF or GT5 online, and whilst I was online all the time in LFS for a while, it's an offline only game for me now.
tristancliffe
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Quote from kars19 :No matter how human like and realistic Ai will be made in future, they won't give me any satisfaction when I am faster than them or vice versa, and I don't get any emotions when I crash them, or they f**k up my race.

Nobody will care if you win some race against 100% Ai, or finish career mode on hardest level, if there will be one in future.
But people will care and remember you if you win in some league race

I don't have time to learn the cars and tracks enough to be quick online. I don't care for the selfish attitude of online racers (restart now, revenge wrecks, setup exploits), and I certainly don't have time to do leagues. I've won enough league races in my time, and don't need more accolades. I just want to fire up when I have a spare hour (between real racing cars and bed time) to enjoy a scamper around a track on my terms. AI can provide that, online generally can't.
tristancliffe
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Other than the first week, I doubt I'll race online with it. I honestly would prefer a decent AI.
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