No, thats because my crap computer can't do any better.. Pentium 2, 500 Mhz and a 32 MB Video Card and 192 MB of Ram just don't get me better results.. I think the best I got was 14 fps...
If I remember correctly it was something like champcar mod.. can't say it specifically. I might not have the skills to get a proper draft pattern going with a more complex model, you are right there. For me there was simply no fun in driving behind each other lap after lap. And it took just too long to complete a pass. Where many people will see a challenge in it, to actually get enough speed to pass, for me it was plain boring. No offense to anybody. I just like it the way it is in LFS right now. Thats how Oval is fun to me.
Since LFS is a simulator I would never complain if a piece of the simulation gets more realistic. Hell yeah, get as much realism in it as you can. If that means, that I can no longer enjoy oval racing, so may be it. I have nothing against that.
Yep, thats absolutely true. I do enjoy Oval in LFS as it is right now. But I also do enjoy every other part in LFS, may it be circuit racing, cruising, banger, and even drifting sometimes (although I really suck at it )
And I wouldn't call it "ruin". If that ever is going to happen (that new aero model), then maybe Oval won't be something I can enjoy anymore, but I am sure, I will enjoy circuit racing even more. Oval is just one part of it.
And in real Life I would prefer any Roadcourse over an Oval anytime. Driving the Nordschleife for example ist just too freakin awesome
Ähm, no.. we race for the fun of it. And although claimed every time again, it is simply not true that a race is restarted every time one of "us" crashes. If you would stick on an oval server for a couple if nights, you would realise, that "we" restart races, when they need to be restarted. May it be, one of "us" crashes with half the field, or most of "us" are up in front. If half the field crashes in lap one, a restart is just fair. And if people try to restart a race in lap 6/8, their mouth should be Jaffa'ed. Period.
And by the way, it can get really annoying to get crashed 6 races in a row, by some unexpierenced driver, who can't even start in a straight line, or use his "watch left", "watch right" buttons to see if a car is at his side. Those are the people complaining, "I got banned, why oh why, did you ban me, and why do you restart every time you crash?"
If you can't start in a straight line, and drive even 8 laps on your own without crashing, a crowed oval server is just not the right place for you, yet.. Go train offline.
But imho, this went way too far off topic (Yep, I went offtopic as well..)
Back to business
Regards
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Reason : some grammar things (bad english, sorry)
Thats just what we were assuming.. And we were hoping for something spectecular to happen, to read about something outside our little boring world
Glad you got the favour repaid..
Regards
To put my 2 personal cents in here:
I can understand that Popps stays with LFS and Oval Racing for two reasons:
1. He is a well respected Member of the Fragmaster Community and I do believe that he likes to hang around with all the LFS-Oval Nerds (no offense, I am one myself). But since they are LFS Oval Nerds, they stick to LFS. So, if you want to hang out with them, there is that magic Link called LFS.
2. I tried Oval Racing in rFactor and I think Popps did as well. And frankly, it sucks!
Well yeah, the aero model might be more accurate and there are more ovals and there are suitable cars for ovals. But still, racing the Oval in rFactor (at least the ones I tried) is plain f****ing boring. It's driving behind each other all the time, bumpdrafting the shit out of the aero model (or using the push-pull, whatever) and nothing more.
The fun of Oval driving in LFS (and it doesn't really matter which car you take so far) is because of the faulty aero model, because of the effects you get out of it. You can get a drafting pattern, switch positions almost every turn and improve in that. You have to get a feeling for what other drivers do, what the will do in the next turn, and how you line up with them after the next turn in order to get the maximum speed out of the next straight. I don't care about the faulty aero or anything else thats not real about oval in LFS (and I do believe most regular drivers on oval servers don't as well), because it is a hell lot of fun, if you know what you are doing and your draft partners know what they are doing.
If Oval Racing in real life could be anything I wanted it to be, I would want it to be like in LFS.
And another oval, disregarding if its shorter or just has different corners would add some extra excitement to the LFS-Oval Experience.
And to add something to the disabled peoples-discussion. Well, there are disabled people who can race on roadcourses and there are people who can't. There are as well not-disabled people, who can race the oval, and there are not-disabled peole who can't race the oval.
I must admit it's sounds a bit odd, to use the disabilty as an argument for more oval tracks, but well, if you don't like it, get a life.
And then, to conlcude, someone said (EDIT :RCPILOT, post #49), three wide in turn 3 on Kyoto Oval is as easy as taking a shit (or somethin like that), well, it is, if all the three cars know what they are doing and keep their line. But out of experience, there are freaking a lot of drivers, who simply don't know what to do, when going three wide into turn three, and then it almost everytime ends up in a mess. If there is an unexpierenced driver in a group of three or more cars, turn three will always be a critical point, since you really have to know where your line is, and have to know where the other cars are, or to put it differently, you have to have trust in the other drivers, that they know what they are doing.
Sure it is easy to get around an oval track all by yourself, it was, let me think, a left, then a left, I think a left then, and finally a left....... but doing it in full race action with 3 or more cars around you just inches away from your car, it becomes a totally different story.
So, more than I wanted to write, but thats the way it goes
Xaotic, I can't really figure out what your post has to do with Popps' Post about the request for another oval track.. ? Maybe I am missing the logic here..
Safe trip man! And just give her some time.. Had something similar some time back.. It took her 2 days to get back to normal, but then...
Hope you enjoy your time together.. Love can be soooo nice
Another content could be the presentation of a racing team each issue.
Maybe get some statements from teammembers, and/or statements about the team from the community or such.., and some pics taken on their server.
Like the Idea of a magazine pretty much! Keep up the good work!
Just wanted to mention...
there is a broken link on the website http://www.maxheadroom.nu/clc/caribbean the link to CLC_Sounds.zip is corrupted and points to Siren_V.zip...
If you download the package above that one you wont need it, but for the others,.
change the link to CLC_sound.zip and it works.
I'd say you accept how we admin our servers or you dont. And if you dont stay away. We dont force anyone to come or stay on our server.
And I am not mowning about your name either, Shotglass, u like shooting glass??? Leet speech hin oder her. Plaztik is a funny guy and fünfhundertzehn'N'dreiD ist in meinen augen ein lustiger nick. (is in my eyes a funny nick) falling back to german in extreme situations, sorry)
And the posts of the majority of the users posting in here show an attitude I wouldn't choose as my friends. If you choose it that way, have fun. Enjoy yourself.
Dude, nothing against you, but I think you are a follower. You read some or all of this thread and realize some people dont like us. But there are a big bunch of people who do. And if you dont want to form your own opinion about the community or the servers, then do it.
I am replying because I love my community (the Fm one) and some members in the community are very upset about all that shit going on here, and that makes me sad, and I will always defend and fight for my friends.
Seriously, this is absolut bullshit!!! What a dipshit!
Youm dont know **** about FM and our oval. And by writing that we alwys Ban and Kick you proof that you just swim with the masses, are a follower and have absolutley no own opinion. I guess you never even visited our server, and if you did you must have behaved as a complete ****. Every new racer is welcome as long as he can obey the rules. If u dont want to obey our rules, live with it and dont visit our server, and dont wonder when u get kicked.
In road traffic, if u dont follow the rules, your licence is gone sooner or later, or you get a 4 week ban from the streets to start with. Its the same on our oval. And we made the rules cause we have experienced they make racing on the oval better, safer and in the end more enjoyable.
But you shouldnt stick your nose in every shit, that you have no clue about. Get a life!
Maybe you should learn to read. I said I dont give a **** about it in the LFS Community not the FM-Community
Personally, I dont give a shit about my reputation in the LFS community. What counts for me is having fun with my friends and share a good time. And my friends are in the Fragmaster Community. We respect each other and we flame each other every day, because we know we can do and lough about it afterwards. But thats a different case.
MODERATOR : CLOSE THREAD!!!!!!!
ah, I forgot moderators dont read threads about oval, as oval sucks, my fault
Still rereading the thread.
Ähm excuse me. I cant remember when u were on our Oval.
Yes there is a message "Please ckear track immediately after crash shift+s"
But NOT "Please clear track unless you've done 100,000,000 laps of oval in this car". There isnt a single FM who EVER said something like that. Thats exactly the problem. The people dislike us and interpret what they want in something. I mean, dont you feel ridiculous???? Maybe you should switch on your brain before posting next time. And I dont care if that was too aggressive now, as Im getting really pissed of. We have many drivers on the oval that visit our server for a long period of time and have absolut no problems, because they can read and therefore obey the rules. Some people have to learn, that oval isnt as any other racetrack and the rules are there so everybody can have a good race. But obviously you dont even want to understand that or even try it out, longer than for 5 mins. cause it takes some time to challenge the cars you are travelling with and start having fun on the oval
Hm.. then you should ask the question, why we reacted how we reacted. People posting without knowing anything about the subject, or complaining about thing without bringing facts into it. Its nothing more than accusations without having any proof of anything. And every word any FM'ler says is twisted around and interpreted against us. Every freakin time, just because we race the oval. And in many peoples opinion Oval is crap, for which u dont need any skills, and therefore the drivers racing the oval must be crap and skill-less too. Im tired and sick of this. Can someone please close this thread..... let us race what we want and race for godssake what u want.
And, yes I know that one of our Members started that thread, so dont remind me about that Im not dumb. I wish he wouldn't have started it, but life is a bitch
Leave that decision to those who know what they are talking about. I mean, you neither know Thor, nor any other FM-Member. It has nothing to do who postet the most sensible. Its just fact, I think its now said the third time (read the entire post before replying please), he started this thread without knowleadge of any other FM Member.
Over and out