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th84
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Nope, that still doesn't make her an Icon, just a famous female driver. There is a difference.

There are tons of famous people, does fame alone make them all icons?
th84
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Quote from amp88 :That's my point. An icon is someone that the general public recognises, not just the people who are interested in the subject. If you ask people for a pop icon they're likely to say Madonna or Michael Jackson even if they're not interested in their music. If you just stop 1000 people in the street and ask them to name a racing driver I think the most named might be Patrick in a cosmopolitan city like LA, New York or Miami. If you ask people in a NASCAR town they'll probably say Dale Earnhardt or their favourite driver.

I dont care what city you're in, Danica will not be the first driver mentioned.

An icon is much more than just a person that others recognise, it is someone who has excelled in their area of work and also have major influence over that same area. Danica has neither.

Yes, Michael Jackson and Madonna are Icon's in their respective lines of work. They are both multi-platinum artists with huge fan bases. You think they would be icons if their albums didnt sell? I dont.

Just for shits-n-giggles I asked my brother-in-law who lives near San Fransisco Cal. to ask all his co-workers to name a driver off the top of their head... of course he asked me why then proceeded to laugh uncontrollably. Anyway, his results were much like mine... only one said Danica Patrick (technically not even one, his words were "does that chick from the go-daddy commericals count?").

While people may know who she is when they see her, that dosent make her an Icon.
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th84
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Yes, it is.

I promise you it would'nt change no matter what part of the country you were in.
th84
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We have 31 people who work in my office...(FTR, ages 24-56) I just asked each of them that very question... not one said Danica Patrick, not even the two females we have here. ( I did have one that said Jimmie Gordon :shrug

I would be willing to bet that less than 10% would answer with Danica. And you're right, the ones that would say Danica would only say her because she is in commericals. Dale Earnhardt Sr would get the majority of the mentions... but this is due to the fact that he IS an Icon.

Is she an Icon? she very well may be, but not a Motorsports Icon.
th84
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Media, yes. Sex sells, as sad as that may be, its a fact, but that doesnt make her an Icon.

Fans, not so much. I have never heard her refered to as an Icon until today (the post I quoted). There is a difference between a sex symbol and a motorsports icon.
th84
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Quote from MadCat360 :Whether you like it or not she's a big icon in American racing.

She is no Icon in American Motorsports.... most "Icon's" have something to put on their resume's. (other than a fuel-mileage victory)

Pushing Peak anti-Freeze and posing damn near nude for a magazine doesn't make you a Motorsports Icon.
th84
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I vote for thisnameistaken.
th84
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Quote from The Very End :

So, anyone that wants some easy minded fun?

Anything that you are involved in should be considered "easy minded".
th84
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Quote from zeugnimod :We didn't have an "USA sucks" thread in a long time, either.

Tristan finds a way to turn any thread remotely related to the US into a "USA sucks" thread.
th84
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Ahhh, nevermind. Whats the point, really?
th84
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Quote from Syfoon :I opened this thread expecting useful advice.

LOL!
th84
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Quote from MadCat360 :

Although, that lifestyle is quickly disappearing with Obama...


Care to elaborate?

I would say that it is no different here than it is in other parts of the world. There are bad areas in almost every large/ish city. Lucky for me, I live out in the country where your biggest concern is hitting a deer while driving home from work.

I dont think television has given you a false perception, there are places around here that I wouldnt go during the day, much less at night... and I've lived here almost my whole life.
th84
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What does the weather have to do with anything?

I dont think you have to worry about copyright issues, but quoting someone in your sig is rather gay.
th84
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It is somewhere in the options/display menu.
th84
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Quote from GianniC :TH84 will always be a noob, no matter what [etals:].


th84
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I still don't understand what he has done that is so "wonderful".... or what was done that anyone else couldn't do if they had the same amount of free time to spend doing it..

So, congratulations for........... having more free time than I do.
th84
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Quote from pik_d :And you ended up upside-down before you finished one lap I think.

LOL! I ended up upside down before I could finish one turn, much less a whole freakin lap. :P
th84
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Quote from The Very End : The looser pays the beer, deal?

I don't drink beer.. or any other alcoholic beverage.
th84
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Yea, thanks.

I know you're no tool.... it's just one of my longest running jokes. :P


Like I said, I'll be on much more now... so when I see you on and I can join, I'll be happy to come and smack you around a bit.
th84
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I actually got online for a while last night... I had to leave rather quickly though due to bad weather.

I plan on being more active now that I am home for good and all the bad stuff (you know, that pesky RL) is basically finished.

Not a tool? We will have to leave that up to our panel of TOOL judges.
th84
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Quote from The Very End :TH84 an idol in what? Sure as hell not racing, because this chase-veiw (me) n00b even beats him by ease, and have allways done!
But he is a fabelous blower tho!

Ummmm, we have never raced...tool. The only server we have been on at the same time is DD, and I even pwned you at that... and you created it..... muhahahahah. (although, if I have failed to remember some races we may have had, it would not suprise me one bit that you beat me.... thats not exactly hard to do)

And yes, I have a wonderful blower that can clear my driveway in record time.


GC, That was no assumption... however, I am not currently inclined to disclose my evidence. When the shit hits the fan, it will be out for all to see.

Ziggy, I already knew that. :P
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th84
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Yea, all you really had to say is Kia.
th84
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Quote from Kalev EST :You're 14th in blowjobs? Good for you. It's okay to be gay.

I would've guessed much higher. He'z gotz skilz!
th84
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I don't wonder either... it's painfully obvious.


The attention is because it was the most popular server/system that LFS had to offer.

You would think that someone of your stature would be able to figure that out without making a total tool of himself.
th84
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Grats Cabbies!!

Does this mean Im going to have to visit the Cabbies forum in order to be able to read AA's drunken rants?
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