Quote from Scawen :

(--) and the new version looks terrible with the old tracks. Good news though, they have all been updated, as you can see by reading the previous progress reports I linked to above.

Your work looks so good i cannot wait. My only concern is, that if I understood it correctly, I will never ever get my dream come true, seeing old Westhill as extra content of the game. The only track besides oval, where I was actually fast. *sigh*

And added to that, Kyoto Oval will have a very narrow pit entry, meaning I will definitely go to the grass and retire from the lead every time i want to pit. Because I am a bad driver

Just read this thread with thought. My H1-2025 has been quite hectic. Wonderful job guys. I think the best thing for now has been converting open layout tracks into official layouts. Thank you, and please, do this to every track environment. We get so much more racing, hotlapping etc with these conversions. We could even triple the official content this way. Even more value to the little money we have put in this.

Aaaand, not forgetting to mention: still waiting for old Westhill as an extra content 😌

This is really awesome, thanks for the update info.

My deep hope is that with improved environments you would make as many official configurations as possible. Official configurations (e.g so1-so25) are always better than open layout tracks.

And my last wish, please include Old Westhill as extra content, no matter how bad graphics it has compared to new ones. We all love it, and when it comes as extra content, it is always a bonus to every one in our community.

Please and thank you!

Last edited by pantiainen, Sat 28 Dec 2024, 11:13.

The only reason for me to use old version of LFS is that I can drive old Westhill. Oh man, how much I wish it to come as S3 content "Oldhill International". Just as it is. 😭

We have some occasional oval races, feel free to join

New update looks really fantastic, thank you!

I am very happy I see many improvements that LFSLazy offered.

Hope to have some more in the next update, like real time lap time + current speed comparison to one's pb lap + projected laptime. (Helps practising and makes LFS better for practising for bigger events. And live gaps to 5 cars ahead and back during a race. And of course car radar if it's possible.

Instead of going to Steam, better way to start marketing LFS right now would be like annual "try S3 for free period" for every Demo to S2 lisenced user, where all content would be tryable. Maybe some people would upgrade, if they saw what LFS offers. Free S3 for a dedicated week/weekend would be nice to try, for example every Easter from Friday to Monday. Doesn't cost basically anything, but might get new regular racers more.

Hey, would it be possible to change server slot amount to maximum at mid-period and pay the extra for rest of it? And was it possible also at renewal?

Hwy, did you already check does the new version contain Lazy-like live timing and speed comparison + live gaps?

50 Euro from me if devs make it possible to have similar radar available + pit window features showing estimated laps on current fuel and estimated speed on current gear.

Aaand 100 euros more if you bring back old Westhill. New one is too hard for me to drive...

Aaand I give head for making sausage kerbs dissappear 😂

I am really happy to see all the progress, and I really want our community to prosper. Thank you devs so far.

One personal suggestion (after getting old Westhill drivable first) is that now when South City has a huge expansion, we should also have a big number of official layouts. Instead of so1-so6 we should have like so1-so20. Basically I want this so that we would have green line in every single combo we are driving. Official layouts also make it possible to hotlap all. And it seems like we got more official content without using layout editor.

Team name: Fragmaster
Car number: 04
Driver 1: [FM]^Pantheo (pantiainen)

Install LFS 0.7A into a different folder and try LFSLazy insim. It makes you learn the best lines faster.

Hey man, awesome to see you race! Perhaps it helps you also do your development work. I'd welcome you to try Fox Friday some day as well, and I would hope you to try it with 0.7A version, using LFSLazy and all the features. That'll help you also understand the meaning and need of the insim features built into the sim! (It makes you learn even faster and makes you wanna race more!)

This might be a bit of an offtopic, but perhaps you should consider giving a few peek days for all Demo racers in a year. Let's say twice a year, S3 is unlocked for everyone for a long weekend etc. People could come and try how fantastic the paid content is. They probably would spend some money to continue.

One useful addon would be that you could go straight from the garage to browse public setups for the track that is loaded at the moment. When I came to LFS as a newbie, it was frustrating not to have sets and I didn't know to ask for them. Easy UI is the best advantage of LFS and we should spread the word.

Quote from Flame CZE :

What exactly is buggy about it to make it the worst track in LFS?

Maybe the fact that it is a real laser scanned track? I love LFS because of it's fictive tracks. Imo Aston is much better than Spa, for instance. More variations. And you can drive Spa everywhere else.

Still for me, Ro10 is my favourite of them all.

I was doing some ssd cleaning stuff and went to drive old Westhill. Oh man, it is still the most perfect track in the world. And the graphics are just not so bad. What if devs just did something like they did to Fern Bay, and just released it as "Easthill" or something. I really miss that track as it was, and want to have proper races there.

Quote from VicaNo :

it's like the price of three good beers. Take all three

Yes, much more fun than 3 beers. I'd recommend.

(I would pay a lot more if old Westhill was accessible)

I have to add to previous descriptions of LFSLazy contents, that it also shows how many laps can you do with the fuel selected. Makes fuel setting easier, while you don't need to calculate how much you need.

Also, it shows how fast can you go with every gear, and helps set gear ratios.

My view with the widgets I use is also attached. I use car radar as well, but it doesn't work with Oculus. That's why it's missing from the picture. Also what is missing from the left side, is the live gap thing, seen by the video earlier (while this is q not r).

Edit: I also added shift+u mode, where LFSLazy opens up a list where I can just click to load layout into the track environment. It's one of the most useful tools as well.

Sorry about the language in the pics, but I think you will get the point

Last edited by pantiainen, Fri 26 Aug 2022, 12:16.

Quote from Rappa Z :

Very excited. South City looks incredible and the airfield circuit looks like it'll be a draft festival. Like old Westhill but even crazier, maybe.

Everything looks perfect, and this is what I am most excited about. Still hope to have old Westhill back, no matter if it's original with low graphics. And 3rd oval

I hope that with all the updates, we would have several official layouts, while there are so many options available.

Keep up the good work!

Quote from MandulAA :

Since these features and their potential deployment vary greatly in terms of server- and client-sidedness and complexity (given if they are integrated in LFSW in some way, they would require more work), there isn't a "kill two birds with one stone"-like solution, of course. Since there is lots of data to be tracked and shown, I imagine it could get quite complex quite quickly. However, if these features would slowly start trickling into LFS natively without having to rely on 3rd-party software and their constant maintenance by a single person (who might or might not be reachable), I'm sure the racing scene would be very thankful in general!

Looking forward to any upcoming news of the development progress, even if technical!

I absolutely agree with Mandula, I have used both insims for years and my motivation for racing (and especially practising) relies solely upon LFSLazy. I have to add to this wonderful list Car radar on-screen widget feature, which shows the cars nearby you. This helps us prevent collisions, and I use it especially when I am doing drafting on oval. One handy on-screen widget is fuel amount, and the amount of laps left calculated based on fuel consumption.

As you might have noticed, all (FM) servers are still using version 0.7A, just because it is the latest version that works with LFSLazy. This shows how needed these features are in the sim.

So please, consider adding all LFSLazy features as standard into LFS. That will really make LFS more populated and us racing, motivated.

You can scroll down my recent posts about these features.

Quote from Roofus :

Is this the death of lazy?

Not if devs see what we all are seeing and build all Lazy tools directly inside the sim (to behave as they did). We all would love it. Also newcomers who are not so technically aware would benefit this, while they might not have knowledge to use any insim whatsoever.

Please, build all Lazy features into LFS.

Lazy has improved my driving a lot and without it, I would race much less in this community. I wish these features would be a permanent part of the game.

Forgetting the race start is definitely one think that makes a racer skip scheduled event one is interested to attend, yes. So some kind of alert would be good. Maybe if you could opt-in an LFS calendar (like seeing the events in your work Outlook ), would be good to boost some attendance.

But mostly the reason to skip events is lack of time to practise. Making it easier to join races without any huge practise would help people get motivation to join. I posted earlier some ideas and I hope the devs will get those into account at some point. There should be an easy setup-finder for a current track in the game itself. Also there should be these LFS Lazy buttons already in the game to help do a quick test run just a few minutes before the event. Also some help with pits and repairing should be good - you don't always want to repair your car as whole, only one damper or one camber, or cahange only one tyre.

LFS should be made easy to do also with limited time and knowledge about helpful insims, setup making (or even finding them from the webpage etc). Just sit and drive. Of course, if you practise a lot, you will gain advantage over others. But just that it is possible to enjoy the race after a long day of work, without spending several hours beforehand to be ready for the event.

Everything looks so nice so far, thank you!

I was wondering, where does the buddy list in LFS Lazy go now? It has been the best tool for me to find races, when I see many of my buddies online on a server. Makes me join them just because I know them. So, probably adding this buddies online list would be a next move after this?

One thing to consider making racer base larger would be, in my opinion, letting all demo racers try S2 or S3 free for a dedicated period: let's say from Thursday to Monday at Eastern, or some other time. Yeah, there will be a lot of noobs on the track that time, but we can always password our league servers

How about also change "Multiplayer" to "Online Servers" in the main lobby?