Sorry I didn't mean to imply that the non-posting part is the opposite. I was just trying to say that I believe it is not as bad as you may think.

Quote from JO53PHS :

Good suggestion - This would also be helpful for driving in league races, because some leagues ask you to clear all your binds before racing, so this would save you entering them all in again.

Sorry for slightly OT and sorry if I miss something but why would they do this? Surely just giving penaltys for chat would be enough?

Nightshift, if you put the word "forum" in front of the word community then I would agree with you.

I speak to a lot of sim racers who just don't bother with this forum any more due to the way it seems to have gone (This is what I am lead to believe. I have not been around long enough to know the forum any different to how it is now).

Just because someone is not active on the forum doesn't mean they are still not part of the LFS community.

In conclusion, I don't think community position is as bad as this forum makes it look at times.

Team Affiliation : Ironhorse Racing
Driver Real Name (First AND Last) : Nick McKerron
Driver LFS Licence Name : menantoll
Desired Car Number (Between 02 and 999, LFSCART Series entrants have first right to a number. 2 and 02 are considered the same, as well as 10 and 010, both for examples.) : 7
Country Code (using ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 country codes ONLY) : GBR
Gender : Male

Last edited by menantoll, Sun 6 Jun 2010, 12:41.

Quote from Flame CZE :

Everyone has his opinion about the LFS' status and whether it's "dying" or not. However, the developers know the best.

Opinions are fine and are mostly welcomed from what I can see. The problem is though that so many opinions are peddled as fact which they clearly aren't. This is when they are not made so welcome.

Quote from Ales_M :

Because Mr. Zeug its been over 2 years now

No it hasn't. It's been 1 year and 10 months (ish) since the last major update and only 1 year and 4 months since the delayed major patch. Neither of which is 2 years and certainly not "over 2 years". Lets not let real hard facts get in the way of your whining though eh?

Quote from Ales_M :

Scawen said we can expect big things in 2009( but all we got was stupid dashborads and new xr rims).

So he's 4 months late on delivering big things! If you have given up waiting that is your choice but to state that you can't believe others are still waiting, like they are wrong to do so, is just silly. Some people have faith in Scawens words and some don't. Get over it.

Quote from bunder9999 :

it's been suggested before, that he could have delegated the task to someone else. but he didn't, and now we have no official league section.

No new additions to the official league section does not equal no official league section.

Talk about making mountains out of mole hills.

You need to do what you say in your signiture and take a break for a while. You seem to be getting way too worked up over it all.

Quote from anttt69 :

eh? look whos talking mate that all i can say. Your post reflects more arrogance than mine. Some people have been here longer & in general those are the more mature members of the community. We are both fed up of the kiddies moaning but dont you ever come in here & start telling me what to do. Who do you think you are?

I see a post where someone is moaning about someone moaning about someone moaning about a post where someone is moaning.

I'm going to have to get my ironing board out.

E: and the post that was quoted in the second generation moan wasn't actually a moan, he was asking about other games as has been suggested time and time again.

E^2: damn now I've had a moan. I'll need a special steam generator Iron to sort this one out

Last edited by menantoll, Wed 21 Apr 2010, 20:52.

Main racing server got stuck with someone connecting, it has been restarted now.

Quote from tmehlinger :

You've got one of the more qualified opinions on the forums, let us know how it compares when the time comes.

Yeah because I'm sure his dad lets him take it onto a race track and drive it at and beyond it's limits.

Quote from morpha :

I said everyone who can afford the things (necessary to use LFS [online] in the first place) I listed

Yes you did say can afford, I didn't pick up on that point.

So do you agree that some people can't afford ALL the things neccessary to use LFS online, yet they are still able to play LFS online? Is price a valid argument for these people?

It's all a moot point anyway. Can you seriously expect the devs to thin out their already small market by stopping anyone without a wheel from being able to use LFS?

You said "EVERYONE, yes EVERYONE". I was purely pointing out that you were wrong. EVERYONE would include "Freeloaders"

Did I mention that John was previously in a horrific plane accident which left him mentally scarred for life, unable to work? Would you still call him a freeloader now?

Yes I'm making up an extreme here but EVERYONE includes all the extremes.

I still stand by my earlier statement. The price argument can be very valid to a lot of people.

Quote from morpha :

There are wheels as cheap as LFS, cut the crap, EVERYONE, yes EVERYONE who can afford a PC capable of running LFS, an internet connection to use it online and the electricity to run the whole arrangement can afford a wheel. It's never a matter of being able to afford, but of justifying the expense.

€: An XBox 360 controller for Windows is more expensive than a couple of wheels.

Everyone?

Meet John,

His PC was donated to him
TVE purchased LFS for him
His neighbour has wireless and is kind enough to let him use it
After paying his utility bills, his rent and his food bills and his court ordered debts he has nothing left.

Should he not eat for a week to buy a wheel?

He can't afford a 360 controller either as they are even more expensive.

The price argument IS valid

Quote from morpha :

...so the price argument is invalid.

Anyone who says that, in my opinion, has no clue about real life(Edit:being the wider, whole world, real life, not the small localised one you are living). There are many reasons why someone may not be able to afford a wheel. No matter how cheap they seem to be to you.

Quote from matijapkc :

And some people don't have money for wheel, what should they do? If you'll buy me one, I'll say +1, but if no, I'll say -99999999999.

Dude, it was a sarcastic comment. The next line "and the 60% of users dont gona play lfs anymore " should have told you that. She doesn't want only wheel to be allowed at all!

Quote from Chupacabras84 :

Dude you stupid?
You placed dot so you can count small 'n' as an another mistake...

Also make me a favour and ask your teacher what does 3 dots mean, because you clearly don't know it if you marked them as a "Words and punctuation marks that are not required" But again 3 dots i guess its something that is not used very often nowadays I mean chats, message boards and sms 3dots will only decrease your precious number of characters left.

Oh thats clever so why did you pointed my mistakes isnt it common sense not to do that
At least now you can live your life as a self aware fool I guess...

Also read again because finding mistakes doesn't mean you understand what is actually written.


now I see it wasn't language related...
Does reading with comprehension makes your brain suffer?

I am aware that my english sux and I don't point at others mistakes which are language related because i don't care about it.

It seems the point I was trying to make went way over your head. I'll say no more.


Edit: An after thought. Maybe it was your post that went over my head. You were actually calling him a retard not his language? Wow you really are nice arn't you? I thought more of you when I thought you were having a go at his writing.

Last edited by menantoll, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 20:08.

Quote from rockclan :

I somehow get the feeling we will get a Nordschleife alike track in S3. If you just look at the screenshot of the XFR on background of LFS nowadays. That track under it is definatly tarmac. So maybe we will get such a nice track with high bumps, etc.

Dude, take yourself for a drive around AS1. Then come back here.

Quote from Chupacabras84 :

Earlier I thought that your posts sound so retarded because your English isn't the top notch. Now I see it wasn't language related...

Corrections in Red.

Words and punctuation marks that are not required in bold.


If you are going to have a go at someones written english then you have to make sure your own is without mistake. Otherwise you look like a fool.


I am aware that my english is not perfect either.

Assuming that doing this will add online stats to lfsworld then I'd say yes they could do this.

Also if it did download from the server when you pressed 2, how come you can still veiw the replay by viewing temp.mpr after being kicked, banned or just losing connection?

Quote from Bean0 :

Are users warned about this ?
If there is a lack of information, then this could put off new users.

You make a good point. We have posted about it in the hosts section on this forum, we have made a news item about it on our own website, we have a command to explain LFSEI where it is mentioned and when they are spectated for trying to join the track they are told they don't have enough LFSEI (I must check the actual message)

Any more suggestions would be welcomed but I don't want IHR to take over this thread. Our post about it is here http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=67254

Quote from Timo1992 :

You could try Ironhorse Racing, but this is also a risk because you may get banned without doing anything wrong like me (I'm also banned from Ironhorse Rally btw and never raced there)

They've also dared to ban DucK, azzak4 and some other good drivers without doing any mistake.

So i would recommend you to get involved in a league (Apex Cup or NDR leagues for example). it's way better than racing on public servers.

Rally doesn't exist anymore, Oval is on the same Airio as our Multiclass so if you are banned from one you are banned from both.

Duck's ban is now lifted and is documented with a replay on our forums but don't let facts get in the way of your whinge.

azzak4 is a name I don't remember so I can't comment on that one without looking into it further.

Regardless of your rant, Ironhorse Racing is no good for him anyway until he reaches 200 LFSEI, when he does he will be welcome to try.

I believe he means a shame because it therefore will not be on all servers as not all want to pay for the full version. Not a shame that it's a pay for product.

I'm disagreeing with you about it being a product worthy of a fee though.

I could of course be wrong.

My apologies,

I was only responding to other posts in this thread but you are right.


Edit: *Looks at Tyre progress thread. Can I say the word irony?

Last edited by menantoll, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 14:43.

NGT class = XFR & UFR

Harri K, that has been considered and talked about but we don't make any major changes without spending a lot of time thinking and talking about all possible outcomes. It's not been ruled out completely but we do have some resistance to it within the team.

For example, we've been talking about this LFSEI since it was first introduced into Airio about 2 months ago.

Quote from logitekg25 :

im all for second chances, and honestly i think you should give him another chance, unless of corse he actually hacked the server and put the AI in

Read his second post in this thread.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1403015#post1403015

You will see that

1. He doesn't care, for an account to be unbanned after doing something like that, remorse has to be shown.

2. He doesn't care because he has another account which he obviously behaves with.

If and when I find out what that other account is, it will be banned from our servers also. The fact that he knows how to behave but choses not to is pathetic to say the least.