The thing is these custom pedals I'm using originally had totally different wiring, which I got rid of. I soldered new cables according to the schematic, not colours anyway. I think there is something really suspicious about this whole thing, because when I limit the movement mechanically the pedals work absolutely OK (apart from rather big deadzones).

It's wired according to the schematic that was given on the page I mentioned (although when I try to open that page, the pictures seem to be missing). So here's my backup of the wiring pattern (I'm pretty sure I've connected my cables&pots exactly like shown here; if nothing helps I might have a look inside again though). Thanks for help,
maczo

PS Did I mention that the same thing happens with a different set of pedals that I borrowed from my friend?

Hello.
I have a question, I hope there is someone here who knows anything about electricity. I've connected my old pedals to my MOMO wheel, according to this guide:
http://games.saix.net/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?act=ST;f=242;t=31630

Everything would be nice but for two things: big deadzones and one really weird anomaly. I'll try to describe with a graph, which you can find below.

The wiring of the pedals makes one of the axes inverted, and in my case it is the brake axis. Now what happens is that when I reach some threshold value of pedal position, the gas pedal (or rather the pot), although untouched by me, produces suddenly a maximum reading (that is - it goes from zero to "pedal to the metal" in a fraction of a second) and keeps producing it until I partially release the brake pedal. So my question is: what could be the cause of such behaviour?
My temporary solution is to just mechanically restrict the movement of the pedal, because it reaches 100% output below this threshold value. But this is not very nice, and the rather big deadzones make the gameplay quite irritating at times. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

That is really great, Tristan, I think these two posts could be made a Sticky (although I do not see in which part of the forum ).
Thanks a lot

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1. For a given fixed gear ratio, the highest instantaneous acceleration acheivable in that gear will occur at the moment when the engine is producing maximum torque.

2. For a given road speed, the highest instantaneous acceleration acheivable at that speed will occur if the gearing is such that the engine is producing maximum power.

Note:
I have no theoretical background except for what I've read on forums such as this one. Don't laugh, please have patience. Thank you.

Can you please please please explain why the difference in these two situations? I would expect that in point 1 it would also be max power. Why is it so?

Perhaps I can also ask a question with an example. Lets say we have two identical bicycles, with only one gear. I find someone my weight and we both have a seat on our bikes. Someone pushes us both so that we achieve the same velocity. Now:
Let's assume the pedals are on 1meter rods so that Nm=N numerically (right?). My friend applies 20N of force on his right pedal every time it is in the same position (that is under his foot), but isnt interested in his other pedal. I apply 10N of force on each pedal. That is, he is applying 20N once per rotation, while I apply two times 10N per rotation. Will my friend be accelerating faster? This is what has been bugging me, and I think it might also be what BBT meant with the "force over time" thing. Thanks in advance.

i think i heard on tv (commentary during some touring car racing? im not sure) that there was an unpleasant surprise, when someone tried to cut a chicane that was "guarded" by a pile of tyres. well, the unlucky driver did not know that during the break between seasons the inside space of the pile had been filled with... concrete illepall
no more "tyres flying onto track" problem i guess

Quote from AndroidXP :

Why people don't chose R3 and R4? Because until R2 reach an average of 90°, they have alot more grip to offer than R3 and R4. Also, at some point they will cool down again, going back into the extremely grippy temperature zones.

I could also add, that (at least in the small FWD GTRs) it might be beneficial to ease off the throttle a bit and gain in grip a lot (through not overheating the R2's at all or very slightly).
Very interesting read, keep up the good work guys.

cant you just put them on lfs movies pit ?

Quote from Frankmd :

Next up will be making sure the program is usable to everyone so that I can release a testversion later this week.

soooo... any news?

hi,
i tried to give my mates this link:
http://setupfield.teaminferno. ... ar_id=22&p_version=S2
by pasting it in the chat, but the moment i press ctrl+v LFS performs an illegal operation. is the link just too long or some special sequence of characters makes it crash?

if this problem was mentioned, please remove the thread, thanks.
cheers,
maczo

ummm ok then... here goes although i have no idea
lower and upper wishbone deformation?

edit: after looking through google images i think i even might be right
http://images.google.com/image ... en&btnG=Search+Images
this kind of damage probably results in altered camber. ok, so now maybe a few words from someone who actually KNOWS?

Last edited by maczo, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:44.

i think we are coming back to the "hardcore mode"-for-the-hardcore-drivers-and-"as-it-is-now mode"-for-everyone-else suggestion

Quote from Jakg :

get a 403 on that link!

just go to the (...).it page , go to "download" and enter "real car" in the search window

Quote from thisnameistaken :

We have Poland to thank for that. Thank you, Poland!

no problem. that will be 12 pounds (for my s3 license)

Last edited by maczo, Wed, 8 Mar 2006 23:32.

ah,ok. looks like i misunderstood what the problem was. sry

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So I guess the actually slower driver has sent his "i have finished" packet earlier than the other one.

isn't it common for the server to send (and i assume also receive) 3 to 5 packets per second? the inaccuracy then would be huge when talking of close racing. isn't the time "held" on each drivers computer and then a packet is sent with "i finished in 11:02.10" ?

for what i know gameport has 15 pins, while dfp connector probably 7 (if it is the same as in the momo; i read somewhere it is)

edit: i think it *could* be possible to rewire your second pedal set for a gameport connector though

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/star_laps/

can anyone tell me where the heck the Blind Man is?!

Quote from Eldanor :

Wow, how lucky!

well, that is not the WHOLE examination, only the first part. if you pass it, you go for a little spin on public roads but if you fail the parking thingy you can go home though.

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lx6 is fun, lx4 is boring.

did you try south city with its bumps? i can hardly imagine being bored, even in the lx4.
for you maybe its fun just to make the 6 go approximately where you'd like it to go, or maybe you are just a far better driver than me. i prefer closer racing in a tamer (not tame, mind you) car.
cheers

also, with the coming races of nations cup, a (some?) server(s?) switched to lx4 @ so long, which is a very VERY nice combo. yet, the most players i saw there was less than 10... everyone loves the lx4, nobodys driving it...

ok, today i hope the last update. i found one more situation in which some players might have been skipped by the parser, i also fixed a minor error in csv output.
i also would like to mention that i dont have enough replays to do decent testing, so if something goes wrong please let me know.

cheers,
maczo

well, yes it does, but someone might prefer to copy-paste the html code into his site rather than find out how to make the text table look good (multiple spaces problem) and then color it to fit his needs. you know, having a choice is usually better, and as for lfs tables functionality - its not bad to make something better, or at least making it meet popular needs

ok, once more i had to upload a new version due to some small bugs. get it from post 1, again. enjoy!

ikkah - so are you going to include this almost-implemented feature? i think people would appreciate it

ok, i had some time to improve the program. now it finds drivers who didnt finish and it also outputs in csv format (i hope ). hope to see some feedback from you guys.

ikkah, are you sure you placed all lines of code referring to output? im quite convinced that your parser doesnt output drivers who didnt finish (although i dont doubt it FINDS them - stole some code btw, hope you dont mind ).

cheers,
maczo

P.S. new version in first post ofcourse
P.P.S question about csv - should i include all information like in .txt output (track name, no. of drivers, no. of laps) or should it only include row-by-row info starting from 1st racer?

Last edited by maczo, Fri, 3 Feb 2006 21:49.