Any particular reason why limit lfs FPS to 100?, i see a loot of ppl with fps locked to 100

Quote from Flame CZE :

Interesting how many of you have "Acceleration shifts viewpoint" off

i use 1g head tilt 0.49 and the rest of the option in 0.005

couldnt back to the survey and fix that

have to say argentina got a really hard match, well done netherlands

Quote from lebrao88 :

on the garage screen also noticed a drastic drop in fps version 0.6e to 0.6f, even changing textures high and low it persists.

happen to me in my old pentium 4, in garage have masive fps from 80 ( on track) to 15-20 fps when jump to garage

YES Finaly something "new"

Westhill looks like monza now haha, awesome job with the threes

can you provide a link to the LFS tweak you mention?

Quote from Flame CZE :

I turned it off completely, because I find it weird looking at two wheels I even hate the paddle clicking sound, I can hear it once coming from my wheel, why hear it twice?

But for keyboard/mouse drivers it can be more convenient to have it turned on.

Quote from Matrixi :

You seem to be talking about simply having it as a non-VR feature, whereas I'm talking about VR implementation. Sure, there's no reason not to have an AC type delay based shift animation for non-VR users on standard monitors, but somehow I don't think we're going to see such detail in LFS unless there's a specific purpose and reason to have it.


I haven't had a Rift devkit for ages. And when I did try LFS with it, the support was still based on an unofficial hack involving several third party tools to make it work, AC wasn't even out at the time.

The only thing that VR users can do for now is simply suck it up, and "deal with it" until we get affordable VR gloves which enough developers are willing to support for low latency hand tracking.

is a matter of get used to it to the new animation. as you mention is better have something that don't have it all and it could add more immersion to lfs experience as others sim do, or a option to turn it on or of IF sometime it whould be implemente on lfs
sorry for the offtopic, that was all

Last edited by Inouva, Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:36.

Quote from Matrixi :

The problem is in the delay, even if you have a canned shift animation, it's going to happen AFTER you have already changed the gear in real life. For perfect VR perception, the gear change animation would need to happen in sync with your real hands.

It's hard to explain for anyone who hasn't tried VR, but basically if you see your body in virtual reality doing (or not doing) something that your real world body is doing, it's extremely disorientating.

still lfs can have a option to "use new animation with gear change" or "Dont use the new animation style"

i think is not cool to hold back that feature because you dont feel it "right"

So, how you do it in others sims like P.Cars o AC o any other game that have that?, you simply dont play it?, i'm curious

Quote from Matrixi :

There's also the case regarding arm movement in racing sims, it felt a bit strange to change gears while both my hands were continuously on the steering wheel in-game. Delayed shifting animation Assetto Corsa style isn't really the answer either, it feels just as discomforting. It's a tricky situation with no obvious solution yet.

Sorry for the offtopic

but that is just a matter of adapt yourself to the new animation, almost all racing game with cockpit view have the arm with gear change animation
why in lfs is so complicated to implement this?

Quote from Kyotee :

Behold the glory.

Yeah I'm not using it either.

Is not that one

Last edited by Inouva, Sun, 11 May 2014 16:59.

Quote from Kyotee :

"dlls"

You can't edit a dll, it's a compiled assembly.

Quote from Kyotee :

No need to be an ass about it. I know perfectly well how to configure INIs and GLSL shaders, I don't need an outdated, incompatible, limited piece of software to do it for me (badly).

maybe if your post in a better way, because i tryed to give some help and all your post what i found was a ass answer from you.

you should change your way to speak to others on the forum, and you are not the only one who know how to edit shaders, ini's, .dlls. just saying

good luck with your enb

Quote from Kyotee :

That's because it will be designed for a different version.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

are you sure?, because i achived same result as you got with only 5 fps loss when i get a masive fps loss using any of your settings regardless of what i touch in the ini
but well, you are the master, sorry for botter you

Quote from Kyotee :

I do it manually and it works fine.

you sure?, cuz that configurator have some options that are not in the ini at all, you should give it a try

there is a tool for GTA SA that edits and create ENB files, have a really nice interface and all options are explained properly

you can use that tool to edit the enbconvertor.ini and enbseries.ini, i i'be used it for lfs some time ago and got nice results with that tool

Quote from k_badam :

fabiocca
Demo Racer


he demo

Quote from McEscher :

Just because hes demo, doesnt stop him from accessing the FZ textures via a dds editor.

badam, McEscher is right, we have to lurk in the shadows till the demo user put a pic showing s2 content

R.I.P Bob Hoskins

Quote from vitaly_m :

Well I am not surprised that someone can do it Even I could do it with some success, but for me it was easier to learn the wheel.

UPD: I don't try to say that wheel is better for everyone. But wheel is more fun for me, so switching to wheel was good decision anyway.

Sometimes I look at mouse and keyboard drivers and it seems to me that they just love to drive that way -- it is cheaper, you can drive at any PC at any place. AND if you are faster than some wheel driver, you make him mad: "Hey, I spent 300$ for my wheel and you are faster with a mouse!"

TBH, i whoud switch to a wheel if i got the money, but yeah, with some time and practice on mouse you can be as fast as a wheel users with advantage and disadvantage of using mouse =P

Last edited by Inouva, Mon, 28 Apr 2014 20:43.

Quote from S.E.T.H :

you guys talk like you know nothing about button control rate. it does not help you with not locking the tyres or accelerating smoothly. in accelerating, it feels like turbo lag because after the initial press on the button, it just gives you the full power. if it worked like you thought, you could be going at a certain speed while holding the throttle button down. but you cant.

lets say you have to use 60% brake at some point, button control rate wont really be of any help. it works for the first second you press the button. it'll just hit 100% moments after the initial press. so you will lock the wheels and your only chance is releasing the button and pressing it again which will cost you time.

Quote from ImudilaSkyline :

Tapping the buttons helps and it won't cost you much time if you have your button control rate just right and you can control your taps.

what imudilaskyline wrote as a part of an answer to seth

i dont have any problem with the turbo lag or the brakes locking up under hard conditions

and if you are having the those problems while using mouse then you learn nothing from lfs

Quote from vitaly_m :

Some background: Before I bought my G27 I had 1:12.42 hotlap PB at Blackwood FBM. After switching to wheel I was barely doing 1:13.40 but with time I started to get 1:12.80 and could get more but I get bored from this combo very soon.

Another combo I had some decent experience is SO4 BF1. My new PB is done with wheel and I can't do any close to it with mouse.

I had lots of experience with mouse and then switched to wheel because I was 100% sure it will make me a better racer. And it did. Because you can't drive in a single file on mouse as easy and stable as on wheel. You will either burn your tires or lose the field and give up positions a lot on most of the combos - because you can't brake and accelerate smoothly.

Ofcourse you can try and even succeed but then looking replays and seeing how easy it was for wheel racers, you will frustrate and start saving money for the wheel

I am talking about powerful formula cars like BF1 and FOX (FO8 is mostly undrivable with mouse already). Wheel is better here in races IMO. The only advantage is that you can recover from spins better due to ease of lock-to-lock steering moves, but hell, you got hot tyres anyway...

Hotlapping is a bit different from that and mouse can get very fast because you can recoup early braking with a bit earlier and drifty accelerating while moving your mouse left and right like crazy and hoping tyres will last for the final turn

i have to disagree with that, i have no problems driving the F08 or the BF1 with mouse plus i dont remember a race witch my tyres finished red cuz i'm driving with mouse, i dont know what are you talking about
you should come to CG and see that they are mouse driver faster much faster that anyone doing on wheel

Last edited by Inouva, Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:31.

Quote from ImudilaSkyline :

That's not the case for me atleast, because I use a lower button control rate so that smoothens up the input by some distance and enables brake and throttle more smoothly which makes driving somewhat easier.


All of this input precision and ability to drive the car to the limit comes down to experience and practice IMO (as with a wheel ofcourse), because I don't think that you could drive fast instantly when you start driving with a mouse. For me, having a wheel probably helped it a bit but I remember how useless I was when I first started driving with a mouse about a year ago or so, and then suddenly after some months of practice I was beating my old PBs with ease. As S.E.T.H mentioned, mouse drivers have to feel different things to drive fast and it takes time to adapt to that. I don't quite remember when I was competent enough to drive stints consitently, but still it takes a lot of practice and time.

What I'm trying to say here is that mouse drivers are often underrated and bashed because people think that it is very easy for them to do what they do, but I definetely don't think so.

That's exaclty the same experiense with mouse for me, also i use the control button rate so i have a smoother imput while puting the power to the ground and helps a loot to not lock the brakes under hardbraking zones

Quote from S.E.T.H :

if you dont really take into consideration, why are you still answering? if you didnt take it serious, you wouldnt answer, you even took it too serious and started to insult

poor dude.. you just dived in, hit the rock, and now going back as you came in. if you have no arguments, dont come here to insult with your poor english, if you have nothing clever to say, just read and let the men talk

You just lost it . ignored

We are in a international forum and everyone talk english as best as can and saying " with your poor english" i double dare you to talk properly in my native language and see if you are able to defend yourself.

Porque me imagino que vos tenes un dialecto perfecto y muy entendible de castellano, no s.e.t.h? ah, i si vas a responder algo, por favor no uses el google translate o algun traductor, a ver si te defendes con palabras ahora.

Last edited by Inouva, Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:17.

SORRY molocco last one, word

Quote from S.E.T.H :

well then hi dunce

before calling someone such, think about what you just did

the fact i didnt take in consideration anything you say about lfs doesnt make me a dunce as everyone did the same as me in not taking in considaration whatever you told about lfs , so you still are proving that you are a joke

Last edited by Inouva, Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:09.

Quote from Sueycide_FD :

The steering with the phone is disorientating, deleted instantly.

you could try to use the other 6 options of control layout

Quote from CardsetCrazy :

Not sure did you understand my post, but in my opinion those games should be played with those smartphones and tablets, not in pc.

i'll give him a chance to see if he have some sort of way to play the game with a joystick or a wheel

There is another similar to RR3, is GT academy 2 is pretty cool and looks good too