i had the same problem, when starting lfs: mostly love BF1, but noone really drives it in lfs. but there are possibilities to get real clean bf1-races:
1. taking part in a BF1-league (www.owrl.de)
2. gain to an InternationalA-Licence on the CTRA-Server-System (the highest licence offers the BF1 and the races i had there are really clean, because all the drivers know the tracks and are able to handle fast cars)

with this two, i'm happy with the BF1, because the league needs a lot of practicing and longrun-setup-tests to be competetive in the races and that's what every BF1-driver wanna be

p.s. words like "BF1 is for N00B's! haha its too easy to drive lol." can only come from ones never really tried it :P

mhhh ... dont understand what u wanna know we use it on our team-homepage atm: http://1stbfa.raygina.de/tracker.html

did u red the manual, there is a very good pdf included, which covers all important aspects of the configuration. i also can try to help with further questions

i hope to present a package for the community which should easy allow to put a tracker (using the HoTTracker) and some other lfsw-stats on a homepage. we are using it now at our homepage, i do some adoption-work for OWRL and after that i need to clean up some things and then posting it
a lot of people will need some kind of tracker, because lfs-tracker.de will be closed and i did some work to extend the HoTTracker by additional data not cached by it.
if you wanna take a try with tracking, i suggest you to use the HoTTracker (http://hot.german-gamers-club.de/Files/HoTTracker.zip)

we've done the work and got our new homepage online. a lot work still to do, but we are online again with a homebase. hope to see you on track

www.1stBFA.de

you can use an exact 1:1 configuration, if you use the same value in the " Control Panel -> Gaming Devices/Controllers -> Properties" AND in lfs for degrees. so you can use any degrees you want, but both must be the same you can also use different values and lfs will recalc the input.

but is setting the same in both the effect you described ? or did i understand something wrong

i think you can do something like the "extra ff stoppers" you only need to set the same steering angle in the logitech profiler AND in lfs. i use 400° in both and so i have an extra ff limit on 400°

mhh, the question is very general i think. a lot of aspects can play an important role, depending the game concept you wanna create. for some games you need to go deep into graphics/rendering stuff, for others AI is important and so on. so imo the most important aspect is to have clear ideas where to go with the game and what it should do. then you can determine the different aspects of game programming, which are neccessary to implement it.

a very good starting point for all the graphics related topics is http://www.realtimerendering.com/ but there are so many other important topics if you wanna do a whole game by yourself

i did some research, but i was not understanding the kind of configuration of log4net, especially how to redirect the output to a TextBox if somebody can give me a hint, the project i'm writting now is available through public svn : http://svn.raygina.de/haelje
the sources of lfslib are included and i use the project output. any help is very welcome

Quote from mcgas001 :

its easier to use for a beginner

is it ? what is the "hard to use"-aspect of LFSLib ? i found it very easy to understand, very clear class structure and clear concepts (but only my 2 cents)

mhh, that a GPL licenced lib for a community scares some people to use it, is also not understandable for me, but this is more a philosophy thing i don't wanna do money with insim-progs or something similar so i dont care to give away my codes, but it's defenitely better for the community if there are more sources of all aspects of lfs coding, so all can take a look and find a lot nice solutions.

i followed the development of this lib with one eye since starting it, but the question i asked myself: why having a second LFSLib-like library, especially LFSLib includes still all aspects ?

a very simple example can you find here: http://www.claassen.net/geek/b ... e-tracking-class-for.html
for using the LFSLib.Net

i have to say big soorryyy. i found the main bug and it was in my app so i think there was no problem with the lfslib. i use the approach to have all the sources in a separate project and use the output of this to be included in my project as reference. so if i use a debug version to run, this will be linked against a debug-version of the lfslib

thanks for log4net hint, now i know how to get the outputs

i was testing all time last week with the testpatches and then with patch Y, because of the improved AI and i used AI races for tests a lot so if i found any probs with that after switching on the log-outputs, i definitly will post it

thanks for help

ah, i took a look in the project and gave the answer by myself

so can you provide the sources of your app, please ?

hi;

i'm using the LFSLib.Net but i'm also a beginner with it. i have some questions:
1. i'm not able to use a real debug version. i use the code of the lib as project in my visual studio, so it translates and includes the debug/release version in my app. is there anything i can do, if i got insim-closes, so that i can get more infos from the lfslib what's the problem? (i saw, that lfslib writes into a log, but i don't know where to find that)
2. are all parts of the lfslib which causes errors made with throwing exceptions ? in my example i got insim-closes when i use the SendMessage()-function of the insim-handler or by reveiving insimhandler-events. dont know what i am doing wrong

i use one insimhandler for all infos i receive from lfs and the same to send all my messages to lfs. is it the right approach or is it better to use different InsimHandler-instances ? atm i do my own debug outputs by sending "/msg"-messages with the "SendMessage()"-function, but i'm sure there is another way to use more debug infos from lfslib. perhaps anybody can help and tell how you do the debugging part.

thx a lot

do you use the LFSLib.Net for development ?

i htink there are some apps which doing excectly what you wanna do, for example http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=21688

hi,

i just wanna say, that i try to develop a app, with which you can organize complex events with complex rule sets. atm it is very, very alpha, but if someone wants to take a look and wanna give advises, bug reports, critism or something else: everything is welcome

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=626003#post626003

i updated the links in first post to provide a compiled alpha-version of the app. hopefully now there should be a working "eventControll"-part, but everthing needs testing

Last edited by haelje, Sat 22 Dec 2007, 01:51.

thats not a problem of the lfs-version you need to init an insim-port within lfs, so type in the chat "/insim=30000" (without quotes) and you can use the standard port, which is set in the app. but you can also modify this in the "serverInfos"-tab before you press "connect" in the bottom.

mmh ... sure, i test all the time with the new patch Y and it works fine for me here, perhaps any other problems, like firewall blocking the used port ?

the app still do this take a look in the driversList, when somebody goes to the pits. this drivers are changing the groups dynamically in this listView. this also is just a beginning, but this is important for the pitRules. there will be some more basic-rules to configure if the path of violations is done in the app and they are shown in the GUI

just in the moment i was able to discover my brain lack. now there should be the part "event controll" in a for me "alpha"-state. so i will not release i binary now, because this part needs testing for different user interaction. so if you are interested, use the svn and compile the sources to get the current version running. i will be very happy about any bugreport

one good licence if you don't care is the LGPL (Lesser-GPL) which also gives people the possibility to do propriatary things, but if they do changes to the LGPL library they have to post the sources. but you can use it in commercial product