i have some thoughts about the single-seater servers, drove a lot there last times. and a lot of drivers came to SS3 without having a licences and said, that so bad the SS2 is nearly empty. so i had an idea about a little changing in cars, which can follow to a better usage (imo).

SS1 - stay as it is, it's a good entry-server with the FBM

SS2 - allow FBM and FOX on SS2, so NationalB's can choose a cleaner server and they can choose beetwen the FOX and the FBM (imo the most races will be FBM-races ) - delete the FJR for SS2

SS3 - FJR (NationalA), F08 and BF1, so this would be better i think, because the FJR and F08 on one server is a good thing for setting exchange, on this higher server there should not be a problem with 3 different classes i think, especially the most track on SS3 are the long ones. and ATM there are too less International-driver, so perhaps this cold close the lack of drivers and could lead into real races from NationalA and above.

the most important thing is SS2 i think. with FOX and FBM it should be populated, atm the most drivers go to their International's on SS1, and this can be horrorible

just some thoughts, trying to improve single-seaters

i think if the wrecked party uses shift+s to end the race, the "guilty"-party doesn't need to do it the same compared to real-life the discussion about strange accidents will come AFTER the race and if the guilty one tries to wait for the other, but he prefer to end race (or need to do so, because of spining to roof or so), noone is helped by canceling the race.
personally i tried to manage that way: if i was responsible for a crash i give the position back, but not immidiatly by standing on track or besides and waiting for the other, but i go on very slowly so the other drivers can overtake me without any risk, so the one can overtake me in the same lap. or is it needed to immidiatly stop on unrisky track part and wait for him ?

i'm not so experienced in the race-licence, but when i go to my Gold, i recognized, that Gold is not rewarded atm by the system, i mean you dont get a new car class or so. this is one advantage of the ss-licences atm, every licence step you can drive a new car. but you are right, for me personally i never took a race in race2, i went from race1, over UF-BR to race3 and UF-BR is imo a good preparation for race3. i was very happy about the points raising, when you got the higher licences.

imo the ss-licences are hard to gain to InternationB, then you can drive unrestricted F08 on SS3, but SS2 is nearly empty all the time and i think it took ages to gain to international on SS1. i got more points practicing alone on SS3 compared to a victory on SS1, and really, i'm happy to not needed to drive on SS1 because of the lower racing standard (it's more important with the open-wheelers). on the other side, SS3 can only be driven by just 12 people atm, so it's very hard to get 4 at the same time on it

hehe no prob, most important is THAT we understood thx

hi i posted this bug a time before, but was not really sure it was a bug. but if i'm not wrong, nobody really answer to that issue, so i post it again.

obviously there is a bug in der server-section of the ctra-homepage, if there is only 1 driver on server. i tested today with a team-mate, because we wanted to be sure, that it's not only the case if this one driver is in spec-mode. i raced one race on SS3 and was never visible with my name in the driver list of the server. BUT the number shown behind "Guests", which shows the number of connections to the server is correct. it showed 1/39, but without my name, there were only the " No Connections At Present."

i think this could be an issue, especially with the single-seater servers, because the higher one are not well populated atm. and the possibility that someone comes on server, if you are racing alone is lesser, if there is with a "fast look over server page" only "No connections at present", so the magic of "oh there is someone, let's take a look" can only start if there are 2 drivers on server.

so can someone tell, if this really is a bug or some kind of magic feature

again there seems to be the problem, that the webpage doesn't show correctly the drivers on a server, if there is only one driver on it personally i use mates@trackNG and today there was SS1 and Race2 which were populated with only one driver and the webpage said, there was no current connection. it seems only to happen, if it is the "one driver case". if this is a general bug, you should be able to reproduce it, it's the second day i recognize it.

very strange: on SS2 Jonesman is on the server, but he is not shown in the list of the server-page ?

but is setting the same in both the effect you described ? or did i understand something wrong

i think you can do something like the "extra ff stoppers" you only need to set the same steering angle in the logitech profiler AND in lfs. i use 400° in both and so i have an extra ff limit on 400°

i followed the discussion here and have to say: it's very funny. at first i need to say: i'm not one of these really fast racers, but getting the bronze didn't take so long, like some others described here. you are right, in first times it seemed to be unmotivating to have higher licences on Race1, but there is one big fault someones did here: if the higher licenced drivers are not there, why you think you get the same amount of points like them? the points correspond to the fastest lap time in race and if you are about 108% related to the track record on the server you get NO POINT. so you need to go nearly a Silver or Gold licence driver speed to get points.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Run four or five different classes at once, that way everybody can score points whether they've earned them or not.

that's a very bad idea for the entry servers, the meyham will increase if there are mixed races, i think.

so i really don't understand the problem. is the ctra not giving enough points ? is it bad to drive against licenced drivers ? i think both need to be answered with NO. i don't know, why you think things go easylier when having bronze ? the guys you have to fight on the higher servers are the same you can't beat on Race1, so the only solution is to improve yourself and the ctra-system will reward this with points. if you have the pace and can race clean and fair, i think it's not sooo hard to get the first licence on the entry servers.

(only my 2ct)

a happy new year to all of you :bannana_g

i was happy to find the CTRA in 2007, now i'm feeling like being home here

what is the best way to report the "start grid removers" ? taking the replay from the first race on new track or the last race on old track ?
i'm shocked that this happended nearly everytime on UF-BR since only opened to bronze, but only if there is no UKCT-guy on track

on the server-webpage there is the info of FOX is the entry car on SS1. is this because of the only temporary change to FBM ?

hey sam, just a question: could it be possible to put some indicator to the server which runs an endurance day on the webpage, so anybody can quickly see where one is running ? or is the concept to keep it secret ?

yes down again, and oviously someone drives the UF-R unristricted version on it ?? because the software crashed thatswhy ?

mhh, the question is very general i think. a lot of aspects can play an important role, depending the game concept you wanna create. for some games you need to go deep into graphics/rendering stuff, for others AI is important and so on. so imo the most important aspect is to have clear ideas where to go with the game and what it should do. then you can determine the different aspects of game programming, which are neccessary to implement it.

a very good starting point for all the graphics related topics is http://www.realtimerendering.com/ but there are so many other important topics if you wanna do a whole game by yourself

i did some research, but i was not understanding the kind of configuration of log4net, especially how to redirect the output to a TextBox if somebody can give me a hint, the project i'm writting now is available through public svn : http://svn.raygina.de/haelje
the sources of lfslib are included and i use the project output. any help is very welcome

Quote from mcgas001 :

its easier to use for a beginner

is it ? what is the "hard to use"-aspect of LFSLib ? i found it very easy to understand, very clear class structure and clear concepts (but only my 2 cents)

mhh, that a GPL licenced lib for a community scares some people to use it, is also not understandable for me, but this is more a philosophy thing i don't wanna do money with insim-progs or something similar so i dont care to give away my codes, but it's defenitely better for the community if there are more sources of all aspects of lfs coding, so all can take a look and find a lot nice solutions.

i followed the development of this lib with one eye since starting it, but the question i asked myself: why having a second LFSLib-like library, especially LFSLib includes still all aspects ?

i didnt drive the last 3 days, but i really the concept of raising the race length on higher servers. i think 10 mins for the entry servers is a great choice, but the SS2 for example it would be nice to have such 30 mins races this is a important part of racing to learn to be constant and that you can only learn by doing mid- or long-distance races imo

so every increase of race length on higher server is very welcome by me

20 secs agon nearly anybody lost connection on UF-BR

Quote from SamH :

It appears to have caught itself and restarted

Let me know if not!

jep, it restarted itself, but i edited my post before ... not sure that was me, everytime i tried to select a replay

down again

UF-BR is gone just in the moment

dont know, but i wanted to make a report and the list for replay selection took some time, after that the system went down. this was the second time i have the feel it's caused by me

Last edited by haelje, Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:04.

a very simple example can you find here: http://www.claassen.net/geek/b ... e-tracking-class-for.html
for using the LFSLib.Net