Yeah, since when do we plan things upfront ?
Disrespectful how Horner tries to talk advantage for Vettel. First they say that they told Webber to go on a lower fuel mode thing, so he was slower because of that. Now suddenly it's "seems like Webber was starting to struggle with his tyres".
Interesting how Webber asked the team to tell Vettel to back down one lap before the crash, but it got denied "because of the Mclarens being too close". Wouldn't those get even closer if both Redbulls started fighting over position ??
Bah bah bah, this just leaves a sour taste in my mouth as suporter.
Interesting how Webber asked the team to tell Vettel to back down one lap before the crash, but it got denied "because of the Mclarens being too close". Wouldn't those get even closer if both Redbulls started fighting over position ??
Bah bah bah, this just leaves a sour taste in my mouth as suporter.
Vettel's words, now you really can notice that he sounds like a little kid and has no valid arguments to defend his action. His opening word already shows an argumental basic flaw:
Bold: Yeah, and you always focus on the braking point by swinging your car in your teammates car ?
Meh. I'm going to support someone else for championship from now on.
Bold: Yeah, and you always focus on the braking point by swinging your car in your teammates car ?
Meh. I'm going to support someone else for championship from now on.
I do have to laugh at this entire "no teamorders"-rule... It's being done all the time just by coded language and so forth. 
Poor Webber, he didn't do anything wrong in my opinion.
- Defending his position normally.
- Vettel should not do such risky moves on a terrible dirt trackside (he could have passed on the right side like Alonso - Petrov).
- Vettel should not do such risky moves, especially as with the slightest error Hamilton would pass.
- Vettel should not have been in the arrogant assumption that Webber would leave a sea of room for him.
- Webber IS leading the championship before and after the race.
Though I forsee Webber being blamed. Financial wise a German being a worldchampion instead of an Aussie in an Austrian/German team is better. Seeing Horner's responce when Vettel went to the pitrow is truly disappointing. Horner should be angry at Vettel and sanction him, not give him comforting hugs and saying "it's okay". I just got disappointed in the RBR as team...
A nice race though. Too bad of the huge gap between the two tops teams and the rest. Very amusing to see the levels of those in their group being so close. Mercedes-Renault-Ferrari train is nice. And seeing the top 4 so close so far in a race is also exciting!
I do am kind of looking for a onboard replay of Alonso-Petrov. Curious how exactly it happened..
- Defending his position normally.
- Vettel should not do such risky moves on a terrible dirt trackside (he could have passed on the right side like Alonso - Petrov).
- Vettel should not do such risky moves, especially as with the slightest error Hamilton would pass.
- Vettel should not have been in the arrogant assumption that Webber would leave a sea of room for him.
- Webber IS leading the championship before and after the race.
Though I forsee Webber being blamed. Financial wise a German being a worldchampion instead of an Aussie in an Austrian/German team is better. Seeing Horner's responce when Vettel went to the pitrow is truly disappointing. Horner should be angry at Vettel and sanction him, not give him comforting hugs and saying "it's okay". I just got disappointed in the RBR as team...
A nice race though. Too bad of the huge gap between the two tops teams and the rest. Very amusing to see the levels of those in their group being so close. Mercedes-Renault-Ferrari train is nice. And seeing the top 4 so close so far in a race is also exciting!
I do am kind of looking for a onboard replay of Alonso-Petrov. Curious how exactly it happened..
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I admire Scawen and the other Devs, I love LFS partly because of those Devs and how they handle things in general. I know that they are still working on LFS and I know that they are motivated. I love LFS because of things like Scawen making his very own tyre model. That is what defines LFS and makes it so much better in my personal opinion than anything else.
However, I fear to be let down. It's been a long while now, with little to no concrete news. I fear that when the next update comes, that it will contain interior texture updates, new South City track textures and an updated errorless Chinese manual document or other such (to me) nonsense. I fear that when the next update comes, it will not have any crucial updates to the sim racing aspect, but only to graphical aspects or other of that tiny stuff... as we have noticed in the last ~2 years. That's why I want updates, or in the minimal clear communication from the Devs to the community with what is going on in the programming scéne. Ten lines and one picture is more than enough to keep me going for another six months... but just give us a shoutout and most of all a clear signal that you are this time actually working on sim racing important things (most of all being physics) and not "keeping yourself busy" with yet another manual in another language or some graphical sillyness.
LFS is not a game, it is a racing simulation.
So where are the improved physics staying ? :hyper:
I'm one of the guys who always agreed with "It comes when it is ready, I trust the Devs, go have fun with what we have!", and I still have fun in LFS however... things are supposed to get ready by now. I've been drooling for over 15 minuts on the iRacing website now and really got frustrated with our interior texture car update compared to the V8 Ford release - for example. Not to mention how entire nfinity eSports Racing is spending all their time in iRacing and I'm left out alone in LFS fetching my own setup... 
Nearly 6 months have passed since Z28 patch, which contained the following glorious, and barely wanted by the community, updates:
Or differently put: a lot of text to say that no simulation racing benefitable update has been done. Screw that multilanguage manual or password saving, I want sim racing relevant updates! I don't even need new cars or tracks, just update the present content already (the tyres, braking, suspension model, weather improvement, car handling, ect...)!
Less bullshit, more sim updates. And preferable without waiting for 6 months long (and actually even longer than that as Z28 didn't introduce any sim racing important updates as mentioned above). I understand that there is no entire funding or crew behind LFS as for example iRacing, that's fine. I can live with less and do not want an iRacing clone. But at least make some racing relevant updates.
You're killing my favourite game, Devs. Five years have passed, seven actually if you include my demo time, and I've taken my fair share of breaks with LFS. I do not want to take another break. I want to have great racing fun! I want to feel the exitement again! I want to race again, in LFS! Not saying that LFS is dead like all the troll kids or such, far from, but a new wind is sure more than welcomed! Not so much for myself as for with those who I race for over seven years and who race much more active than me and have got tired of always the same lapping and stuff.
Say hi to the little kids by the way, Scawen. Although... by now they're already long out of kindergarten!
Sincerely,
Nearly 6 months have passed since Z28 patch, which contained the following glorious, and barely wanted by the community, updates:
Or differently put: a lot of text to say that no simulation racing benefitable update has been done. Screw that multilanguage manual or password saving, I want sim racing relevant updates! I don't even need new cars or tracks, just update the present content already (the tyres, braking, suspension model, weather improvement, car handling, ect...)!
Less bullshit, more sim updates. And preferable without waiting for 6 months long (and actually even longer than that as Z28 didn't introduce any sim racing important updates as mentioned above). I understand that there is no entire funding or crew behind LFS as for example iRacing, that's fine. I can live with less and do not want an iRacing clone. But at least make some racing relevant updates.
You're killing my favourite game, Devs. Five years have passed, seven actually if you include my demo time, and I've taken my fair share of breaks with LFS. I do not want to take another break. I want to have great racing fun! I want to feel the exitement again! I want to race again, in LFS! Not saying that LFS is dead like all the troll kids or such, far from, but a new wind is sure more than welcomed! Not so much for myself as for with those who I race for over seven years and who race much more active than me and have got tired of always the same lapping and stuff.Say hi to the little kids by the way, Scawen. Although... by now they're already long out of kindergarten!
Sincerely,
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Shh, it's done so that they look popular and good.
All part of the super secret non-conquerable plan.
Reminds me of that tour I once did on Spa Francochamps, speed limit to reduce noise for the 3 neighbours building a villa around the circuit. (:shrug
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My only comment on that kind of racing is: penalties after the race ? It happened in lap 5, make a decission based on the rules and get done with it. ****ing FIA / race marshalls, losing all their credibility like that with me. Plus the stuff in front of the pits is cool for me, the stuff inside pits with Vettel and Hamilton there is a big no - safety in the pitlane above racing, it's not like it was the last lap or something. The steering into last turn, going full over grind and white lane back into the pits of Hamilton there is also eyebrown frowning to me, should give him a penalty or warning at least (not sure what pit entry white line rules state exactly ?). For the rest I didn't saw anything penaliseable. Some heavy going to the outside pushing here and there but... that's the racers themselfs who cause it. Racer A pushed B out wide now, next race B won't be gentle for A anymore - they make their own reputation and consequences for their behavior, no need for rules to interfere (or even worse knowing FIA: to pick sides!). Reminds me to that NASCAR affaire not long ago (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82267).
Petrov did nice, then again he had fresh rubber. Too bad Webber made an error, would prefer to have seen them racing for it to see Petrov's value (Webber had also new rubber). Then again, errors or not making errors is also part of the racing!
Mclaren: rules don't count for them
Ferrari: failers, kick massa out
RedBull: fast, but tactic is failing
Renault: simple, but good
Force India: dropped a bit this race, but overall good
Mercedes GP: good, but just that bit not fast enough
Rest go home ffs and let me sleep with these lame Asian GPs.
Petrov did nice, then again he had fresh rubber. Too bad Webber made an error, would prefer to have seen them racing for it to see Petrov's value (Webber had also new rubber). Then again, errors or not making errors is also part of the racing!
Mclaren: rules don't count for them
Ferrari: failers, kick massa out
RedBull: fast, but tactic is failing
Renault: simple, but good
Force India: dropped a bit this race, but overall good
Mercedes GP: good, but just that bit not fast enough
Rest go home ffs and let me sleep with these lame Asian GPs.
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We're not even trying.
Nice new team and good looking skins, may we have fun racing together! (well, I'll be respecting the blue flag nicely for ya guys!)
No racing, just a rally car jumping 250 feet or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3z-6nf-lNo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3z-6nf-lNo
Yeah, I knew the refueling wasn't true. Sorry about the Aussie, sounds Brit to me.
"With Patrese's car going very slowly, as thought it wanted to do something. Yes, it wanted to burst into flames."
F1 1982 - Brabham invent refuelling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... WIRAQ&feature=related
Nice video, darn Brit commentators.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... WIRAQ&feature=related
Nice video, darn Brit commentators.
Question is: what the **** is the ugly red for then ?
That tyre-gambling-playing stuff still annoys me. Like how some cars appear to be 1,5-2 sec faster again than the one in front of them, but once they get behind that rear wing they're stuck, unless taking "divebombing" risk like Alonso tried. Or how long Button did on his tyres.
Not a bad race to view, though still the same conclusion as previous GPs. Hope it improves on the Euro circuits...
Not a bad race to view, though still the same conclusion as previous GPs. Hope it improves on the Euro circuits...
Why is this broadcasting, intro, comments sooooo much better than the F1 stuff...
Nice stuff, thanks for sharing! Any livestream for today's race ?
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