thats awesome guys, thanks for all the help!

hey guys, i must say im a tad unimpressed with all the banter going on. i missed the prac event due to real racing commitments.

Surely banter about bad driving etc should be kept to PM's between 2 drivers involved and the organisers, not such a good show for outsiders reading this thread...

As for the banter towards the organiser (Lep), catch a wake up boys, test event is there to "TEST" things out, setups and all!

Anywayz, looking forward to out first proper race on tuesday!

Last edited by Dizzydarryn, Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:58.

Quote from unseen :

The Wireframes are the outline of the 3d car model faces. They allow you to see where the exact edges of the model of the car lie to make it easier to skin accurately.

If they are getting in the way then either click the eye icon to the left of the wireframe layer to hide it, or just set the opacity of the layer to a lot less so it isn`t as visible.

They not getting in the way. i figured out how to hide them using the eye thing :-) i was just curious how to use the wireframe to make the skin look more "proffesional".

So basically, u can use it to make sure that your graphics arent gonna look funny cause they overlay onto a surface that isnt quite flat etc?

maybe i didnt explain to well... all i wanna know is what the purpose of the wireframe is. how does it help your skin look better?

ok, i downloaded GIMP and am getting cracking at some skinning. ive downloaded kits from master skinnerz and am starting to figure out the layers thing...

What im not quite figuring out are the wirelays? ive read the explanations relating to 3D this and that, but to me, it just looks like millions of triangles!

Can anyone help?

im back in the game, everything is working perfect on my side again! thanks

hey sam, not sure if its just me, but i cant get onto the CTRA website and there is huge lag on the server?

thanks

thanks a mil

Im really struggling with downloading GIMP. can anyone help me, i install the installation file, but when i try to run it, it tells me the setup files are corrupt or missing?

thanks, that does help, even tho its long. Anther stupid question tho, say u have your background/base colour on the bottom skin. i then add a layer, is this a blank layer again or is it a duplicate of the first layer.

How do i then get to see what the full skin will look like, ie, how do i merge all the layers? You understand what im asking? when i try create different layers and in the one layer, bumper is red, in the other layer, the doors are yellow, how do i see all these layers together?

Quote from Knight_Atack :

GIMP is also a free editing program (similar to PhotoShop) and is free (wow, I said that twice). And I do believe it supports the .psd files from Master-Skinnerz. Their skin kits are a great way to skin since you have a view of the modelling of the car.

As for the rest, well, creativity and everything else. There are some "to be finished" and "base" skins found somewhere in these forums (which I forgot) and many other things. I think it's in the templates section. There's also lots of stuff over there at MS too.

And layering well... Um... What do you mean exactly?

Cool, thanks. with layers, do you use different layers to make a skin or is the entire "car" done in one layer, or is it, say, the left hand door is on one layer, then the roof on another, and maybe the bonnet on a 3rd. i dont really understand layers.

Lep, i had a try out with the sets last night and found the car very "interestin" to drive. the initial turn in was unbelievable but i found the car had alot of understeer when u tried to get on the power...

I assume we can make the changes to caster/toe and ARB to change this to suit our driving styles?

I played around with camber a little and found it made the front end turn in less aggressive which made it slightly easier to drive, especially for new drivers and longer race distance.

Has anyone tried playing around with toe's?

Quote from himself :

... i feel i must change the team name to "Super Aguri"

So i had my first run on the server last night and geez Lep, there a couple seriously quick guys around, but based on the little 10 lap race that we did, looks like we all gonna be seriously struggling towards the end of a 19 or 20 lap race!

being new at LFS, i have decided to see if i can do my own skinning instead of requesting things. I downloaded paint.net (because its free).

I was trying to find some good default skins with dark backgrounds and came accross masterskinnerz, however, their defaults are .psd and paint.net does not accept these...

Secondly, pls can someone briefly explain how to use layering when creating skins...

thanks

id love to compete but im away on real racing duties at an away national so i wont be able to make the prac event... man i wish it was a wednesday ;-)

have fun guys

ummm, not sure if its just me... but the nicknames thread is wrong?!?

Shouldnt number come after team?

can delete this post after?

oh yes, anyone gonna be on the server this week?

Last edited by Dizzydarryn, Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:12. Reason : additional question

oh my...

So i race cars in real life... HnT is as natural to me as breathing... so i rigged up my old pedals this weekend and tried a bit of "non auto clutch"... what a joke... my left foot now thinks its a "braking" foot and not a "clutch" foot!

Although i played the game left foot braking on thurs eve, climbed in my race car friday morn and never missed a single gear all session!

is it just me???

The other thing, I couldnt get my config to work with HnT. im using a DFP. but when i try HnT, i cant cause the pedals are set on the same axis... any ideas?

ok... so im at a dillema...

Dropping tyres pressure causes more flex in the tyre and therefore more friction and therefor more heat...

Increasing tyre pressures starts the tyre at a higher pressure allowing it to build to a higher temperature...

My issue... softening a pressure to get heat is a technique for a qualifying lap as the temperatures will rise quickly and then cause overheating????????

Increasing pressures will allow the tyre to slowly build temperature and provide more consistancy over a race distance in terms of tyre wear????

Is that correct... any thoughts?

Quote from Leprekaun :

Patience . Just keep at it. Trust me, the more you drive, the better you get. Try and spectate some of the other drivers too to try and learn from them.

Yeah i agree. just stick it out. its a very awekward car to drive untill you get used to it im pretty new to LFS and have pretty much only been racing an XFG. i struggled my ass off untill i spent a couple hours just trying things yest afternoon and managed to get down to low 11's (started out doing 15's!!!)

Itll be worth while!

ok, ive played around with a whole bunch of pressures and cambers. i assume we are allowed to change those sort of things?

and ive managed to get alot more consistency into the temps, all be it over half race distance and got down to a 12.3 (still struggling with the car alot, 1st time ive ever driven it, and with 20 lap fuel load)

Im losing LOADS of time through the first chicane cause of the curbs and alos thru the last corner! i reckon, at least a second.

Quote from Leprekaun :

try this one (based on the alternate setup restrictions in the Setup Restrictions topic)

thats quite a neat set. quite a bit easier to drive than the other i tried. first time out and i got into the 12's quite comfortably.

Its very heavy on hear tyres and the fronts just never get temperature so u can play aaround a bit there!

also, i play auto clutch with DFP, i start burning the clutch out about 6-7 laps in? any ideas?

Quote from R3DMAN :

the intake restriction is still at 10% but the added mass is 70% we used 50%

Ok, im getting a lil confused with all these set changes... which set should we be using (do understand that is continuous developement)?. I wanna try the set with correct weight distribution and intake restriction etc...

And also, we aiming to get to around 1min11 to be in with a chance?

Quote from Leprekaun :

try this one (based on the alternate setup restrictions in the Setup Restrictions topic)

I also struggled quite a bit with the set last night. the car was incredibly pointy (off power) and very snappy anywhere near the curbs... is it just me, i didnt do much driving tho so i was still getting used to the car.

What sort of times should we be aiming for around BW... 10.XX??

i think i might have a bit of time to play around tonight. just to make sure... ive got the set posted and the bunch u emailed to me Lep, what are we gonna be allowed to change (ride height etc).

also, how can i find the server, will it be up and running tonight to have a practice. if not, ill prob practice on BW GP

Quote from AndroidXP :

Can't look now, but I'd imagine it would be something like a constant 3 to 7KB/s downstream, depending on how busy the server is. That would equal about 10 to 25MB download per hour playtime. Of course the download of skins also adds to that.

i think its the skins.. it downloads skins constantly when im playing! is there a way to turn unnecessary downloads off... although, i suppose if im very new at LFS id be downloading everyones skins, but at some stage, it'll stop downloading cause ill have downloaded most already ?!?!