No it's the ASM that the abs disables iirc.

Awesome trailer, can't wait. I'm sure it'll be as enjoyable and pun filled as the others haha

Osram nightbreakers don't last anywhere near as long as a hid bulb though, I replaced some nightbreakers after just 4 months when they popped. It's down to personal preference at the end of the day though. I love the extra visibility and clarity of hids.

I bought oem lenses to go with mine, just not gonna fork out the cash for washers and getting them tech 2'd onto the canbus system. We do a lot of early morning late night driving and the benefit is massive in our rural areas. They get wiped with cleaning wipes constantly so I have no issues with them being installed on our car.

Yup you can get done for it, but lots of people do it with things like decat pipes etc. I'm ok with my hids as I'm friends with the mot station workers and get my services and any other work done there

Your da was there n all

They need washers as dirt on the light casing can misdirect the light and dazzle other road users, either by the dirt itself glowing or by reflecting the light back into the reflectors and then bouncing back out at an incorrect angle. Believe me the light from a hid is very bright and can cause problems for others. Especially incorrectly set lights or hids in the wrong housings. Self levellers are for the same kind of reason, to keep the light at the correct angle when going up and down bumps etc.

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I thought that applied only to the main beams, as a pose to dipped headlights?

Errr, what? You can have Xenons in Reflectors (legally), and you can have halogens in Projectors (legally).

Running Xenons / HID's without powerwash / self-levelling is illegal in the fact it breaks construction & use regs, but you wouldn't fail your MOT for it.

You won't fail at the moment but new mot regulations from dec 2011 deem them unroadworthy without self levellers and washers. Easy work around is make them easily exchangeable for mot or fit hids in high beam. Surprising how many things people will change just for mot's.

I know the type danowat, the ones who have sidelights on with fogs on WANKERS!!!!

I think you'll need two separate kits for low and high. I've just got hid lows, mtec 501 side lights (had led sides but half canbus made them strobe like mad) Osram diadems for indicators, they look awesome. Back on topic, 10k are quite purple, i would say 8k are what you're looking for. What car are you running at the moment?

Quote from Migz :

they aren't illegal here, only if you buy the cheaper kits with no high beam (like i did)

They are actually illegal if they don't meet certain criteria:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

That's why all HID conversion kits are sold as off road use only.

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For the love of god, don't install HID's in place of normal reflector based bulbs, even projector lights need a different type of lense for HID bulbs for them to gather the light properly to where it needs to be. All you end up doing is blinding everyone else on the road and earning a title of being a massive mobile cock while doing so.

Not true regarding projectors. Majority of lenses are factory fit and are the same for most lighting setups with a few exceptions. If you buy correct kits and not 30 quid import sets then you will get shields designed for that lense setup that corrects the light spread.

HID's in reflectors are a different story, it's like two lighthouses driving towards you with the light seemingly aimed only at your retinas.

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Most come with cancellors that get round bulb out warnings, but it's worth checking beforehand as you can get strobing issues from the pulse that comes off the bulb check sequence.

Most dealers will call it something like adaptive front lighting or similar, i think the lights new (or retro-fitted) from dealer are pricey, but there's other things that have to be installed apart from just bulb systems themselves.

You can't really state about light output for 6000k if you used unsuitable bulbs in reflector lenses, it's like daylight infront of our car and the light spread is amazing

6000K seems fine colour wise, with a slight blue tint, no more so than these blue bulb all season halfrauds kits.

I've seen people driving round with 8000K and they are stupidly purple. Although at the the end of the day it's down to each persons preference colour wise and the risk of a fine/points. (Most aftermarket kits will be deemed illegal anyway if you don't have self levelling suspension and headlight washers)

Anyways to the OP ring HIDS Direct or email them, they'll sort you out with what you need to know, and if you check some owners clubs first you can get a discount for car makes/models if they have any schemes set up.

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HIDS Direct are the best people to talk to, http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/

I've got the 6000k standard beam set on my 02 Vectra C and they are amazing, slight blue tint to them, and the visibility is 100x better. The vectra comes with projector lenses so light spread wasn't an issue, but you'll have to check with your vehicle.

HIDS for high beam aren't really that much better, and as above, the startup time for the bulb would stop you being able to flash correctly.

However, hids in fog lights used as DRL's instead of fogs look awesome with 6000K +

Examples for colours:

Be careful though, if you're car doesn't come with factory fit hids (including self levellers + washers) then some garages will fail mot's on this, and a copper who knows what he's looking for could be a twat and ticket you if he's having a bad day.

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He's there for controversy, he's there to say things that people wouldn't dream of asking. He may be a bit of a twat, but i enjoy watching him just to see how people answer his abrupt questioning

He does make good viewing imo

Glad legard is gone, and this year F1 will be broadcast by FOM in HD - can't wait!!

Yes, I agree.....

used car dealership Probably the best feeling car to drive i've had to date in GT5 aswell tbh, shame the model looks like crap

*edit, oops i misread, mines the RGT i've not seen the ctr on the ucd yet, waiting for it to show up coz the yellowbird is awesome

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I hate the UCD! I keep saving up but discover sweet cars every few races and I can't resist

Just got an altezza touring car for 40k from used car dealership, bargain 300bhp and it looks awesome for a standard.

Quote from atledreier :

Yeah, I've seen one once too, but then i couldn't afford it... Haven't seen it since.

I just bought one in used car dealership for 40k

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

You win a Dodge RAM on one of the races or licenses, I just tuned this up quite a bit (as standard it's rubbish)

Yeah u get the dodge ram 3500 for completing one set of licenses. I didn't tune any part of mine and golded the pick up event, just block the others on daytona :P

Quote from BurnOut69 :

Nope, but browsing around I found out that cars above 500K cant be sold.

So, anyone wanting a brand new Shelby Cobra?

I'll have it, psn is oOoJACKSONoOo

there just upper and lower case letterO

Quote from BurnOut69 :

So I bought a Shelby Cobra for my B-spec Bob to do the american muscle race at Monza, and turned out the prize is that very same car.

Now it wont let me sell neither the one I won, neither the one I bought, so WTF, I spent over half a million in it

Why some cars cant be sold?

Do you have the car shared with friends?

If i use an hdmi to dvi cable, will i be able to use the 3d setting of my samsung 2233rz monitor?