No worries, we sorted it out during the race already
In that moment I was just a little pissed cause I had already passed Jay and even if we were slower, passing us is sth. else 
@ Jack, sorry, I thought I was more "enthusiastic" when u hit me, but it appears I was rather more having those feelings inside than letting them out. I was wondering as well as I saw the vid the first time xD
This is also where Mr.Basford can see how he RUINED!!! my start
I haven't raced the FXO recently, and rather seldom the XRT at all. But on As7r I struggle to keep tires below critical temps for more than a max. of 4 laps. After that it'S all red. It's driveable, but not perfect anymore ^^
And apart from that, I wanna see the car in RL that is that lose on the rear axis......I've driven a couple of RWDs and neither of these was as tail happy as the XRT is ^^
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But I think with the TBOs there is another issue.....I haven't driven any car in real life where the tyres after 2 laps are close to converting into liquid rubber.....2 laps on the Nordschleife gave a very nice an grippy warm temperature, far away from the melting point.....in an FWD....
Try that with the FXO ^^
Maybe that too
(by the way, I just understood what you CoRe guys meant with the posts above lol)But they rather refer to Aerodynamic bugs, the overall higher performance etc.
This is basically towards the discussion in the german LFS Forum where ppl argue that we need more roadcars than big fast cars with spoilers and slicks because only the small cars proof to be a lot of fun.
This Video (we didn't intend to show how GTR racing can look like) was the outcome of a practise session where we fought for more than 3 laps until I made a slight mistake and couldn't get back into slipstream.
Of course it's not as close as you can drive in a UF1000, but besides aerloss problems and higher speeds this gave me the same thrill!
Maybe the wording offends some of you, but this video shows that you can also have fun in a GTR when 2 drivers are equally fast.
Ohh hell, whoever it is, please stop the voodoo against our Team xD
Somebody really doesn't want Team Inferno to be succesful in the MoE o.O
From 4th to 15th due to 2 PC restarts from Niki, this bad luck series starts to annoy me....
Somebody really doesn't want Team Inferno to be succesful in the MoE o.O
From 4th to 15th due to 2 PC restarts from Niki, this bad luck series starts to annoy me....
I cannot really reply to your comment because I wasn't driving and I only got the call of my teammate saying there was some bad crash.
There were a couple of situations where GT2 cars did not want to let GT1s pass before the hairpin and "blocked" the GT1s up to the straight which wasn't that fair or necessary either, but at least we didn't suffer from any damage in these cases.
Complaining about that we didn't gain anything may be correct, but that does nothing have to do with the penalty in my eyes. Else we should not have received a DT for spinning spdo (They finished 2nd and I doubt they could have beaten SK, so they achieved maximum position) because they didn't lose anything at all either.
We do not want to start a fight or complain about every little incident. It's just that your incident was one of those that caused damage and where our driver was able to identify the car.
Let's hope that in WE there won't be any necessity to file any protests
There were a couple of situations where GT2 cars did not want to let GT1s pass before the hairpin and "blocked" the GT1s up to the straight which wasn't that fair or necessary either, but at least we didn't suffer from any damage in these cases.
Complaining about that we didn't gain anything may be correct, but that does nothing have to do with the penalty in my eyes. Else we should not have received a DT for spinning spdo (They finished 2nd and I doubt they could have beaten SK, so they achieved maximum position) because they didn't lose anything at all either.
We do not want to start a fight or complain about every little incident. It's just that your incident was one of those that caused damage and where our driver was able to identify the car.
Let's hope that in WE there won't be any necessity to file any protests
So, basically, Tyre heating during the formation lap is no longer allowed?
It looks a bit different on my replay where the seems to be a slight mistake in synchronisation...however it still wasn't intentional or a stupid move....It also was unfortunate that you steered/warped to the left as I tried to avoid you there....
And that IGTC thingy, even if you have the OUTSIDE overlap, there is absolutely NO WAY of driving into the inner car...there is enough space for 2 cars to go. if you want to be sure to overtake there wait for T1 or use the inside, the outside is always risky and your driver failed to give enough room on the inside.
If it was Viktor who tried to overtake you there on the inside being only half way to your car then I would be of the same opinion like you. But the other way round, no deal!
And that IGTC thingy, even if you have the OUTSIDE overlap, there is absolutely NO WAY of driving into the inner car...there is enough space for 2 cars to go. if you want to be sure to overtake there wait for T1 or use the inside, the outside is always risky and your driver failed to give enough room on the inside.
If it was Viktor who tried to overtake you there on the inside being only half way to your car then I would be of the same opinion like you. But the other way round, no deal!
Yes I know about that. But we filed the protest more than 2h before the race finished. And we wanted the protest to be looked at during the race. Unless LFS has a cool Save-replay-and-directly-upload-it-into-the-right-protest-thread feature there was no way getting that protest done during the race.
@ Hawku: I'm not a hotlapper and I only practised with my teammates together. I was watching the cars around and really was surprised by your early braking. And as mentioned before the car in front of you was braking later than u and even increased the distance of which there was plenty when you hit the anchors. I never said it wasn't my mistake, but it was neither an attempt to overtake nor an intentional action AND you did not lose the race by that. There are/were other situations that have been way worse which were declared a racing incident. Just remember IGTC So4, wasn't it your team driving over our car's nose under the bridge.....? And we lost a lot more there than just 2 seconds...including suspension damage
@ Ray, we stopped filing protests because it's all been over at that point already. We had a T1 racing incident crash resulting in a MEGA flatspot(spdo braked early and I even tried to avoid AND they have not really lost significant time there but hey, why not give us a DT) then we had several crashes of GT2 cars sometimes bad luck, sometimes just not understandable......and finally Martin disconnected from LFS although his internet connection was fine all the time (he kept on talking on TS to me as he said ohh, lost connection o.O wth)
@ Admins, I do not want to appear harshly or sth. like that, but how hard can it be to understand that it is IMPOSSIBLE for us to get our replay of the incident when the driver will race to the end? After his disconnect there wasn't even any chance he could submit the replay at all. There were always like 3 admins on the server who could easily have saved the replay quickly and take a look into it. At least in such a situation.
@Starting procedure: How do u really want to overtake with a speed advantage if you're already inside the muffler of the car ahead???
The picture shows how large the distance between our (Inferno) Car and spdo car is and I was right on their tail before the bridge (thx to slipstream...) Just aim for your car to be with its nose at the door of the car ahead, then you do not even have to use look left/right and have some space in case the car ahead does something stupid........(ohh and I heard about small lags ruining a start when cars were to close together...)
@ Admins, I do not want to appear harshly or sth. like that, but how hard can it be to understand that it is IMPOSSIBLE for us to get our replay of the incident when the driver will race to the end? After his disconnect there wasn't even any chance he could submit the replay at all. There were always like 3 admins on the server who could easily have saved the replay quickly and take a look into it. At least in such a situation.
@Starting procedure: How do u really want to overtake with a speed advantage if you're already inside the muffler of the car ahead???
The picture shows how large the distance between our (Inferno) Car and spdo car is and I was right on their tail before the bridge (thx to slipstream...) Just aim for your car to be with its nose at the door of the car ahead, then you do not even have to use look left/right and have some space in case the car ahead does something stupid........(ohh and I heard about small lags ruining a start when cars were to close together...)
did anyone notice how loud the crowd was as Massa finished ? that was very very nice
I would if I could....how can I get a replay of a racing driver? It's lost anyways since he had a disconnect.
Does any team have a replay of 3:30h - 4:00h ?
does anyone want to take a look at it?
Protest against #40 ( AutoMotoTrke.net Sim Racing Team) by #16 (Team Inferno)
• Lap 136 for us
• #40 and #16
• Lap 136 / Sector 1
• car #16 tried to lap car #40 on the outside because he stayed slowly on the inside. Car #40 hit car #16 while braking causing suspension damage on both side
No replay available, driver is still driving and will do to the end.
• Lap 136 for us
• #40 and #16
• Lap 136 / Sector 1
• car #16 tried to lap car #40 on the outside because he stayed slowly on the inside. Car #40 hit car #16 while braking causing suspension damage on both side
No replay available, driver is still driving and will do to the end.
I do not necessarily concentrate on my braking point, but if you take a look at Schade in front of him and the gap between both cars he was braking earlier, pulled further to the left (where I wanted to escape to as I did not intend to overtake there) and was not really braking to avoid Schade's car...just braking too early for being on the inside.
Take a look again at my steering wheel as I hit the brakes.
I'm sorry for that incident but they were braking very early (100m is where I brake at full speed with full tank) I tried to steer left to avoid him but he also went a bit to the left. So where should I go.....that was neither intentional nor specifically stupid, just a racing incident......
Without a replay to check and with them not losing a million seconds this was not necessary...
Without a replay to check and with them not losing a million seconds this was not necessary...
One little question, when Using sound #5 which is my favourite I get some double whistle.
So when geting off the pedal it does like phitty phew -----phew
So it appears as if the sound is played completely and then for a short moment starts again, any idea of how to fix it? Or does anyone have the same sound in a working version as .wav file?
So when geting off the pedal it does like phitty phew -----phew
So it appears as if the sound is played completely and then for a short moment starts again, any idea of how to fix it? Or does anyone have the same sound in a working version as .wav file?
I am not comparing them, but the peeps argumenting like I said would necesarily have to consider the Kova incident the same way.....at least a bit
The FIA should have penalized the Team for the Massa incident. Massa is relying on the signal the team gives him to leave the pits. I doubt he can see/ concentrate on a car coming from behind, that's something the Team had to look after. Punishing Massa would have been even more unfair.
You can argue about considering the chicane as 1 turn or 2 turns, but those of you who say that Kimi should have given room to Lewis would also have to say that it's webbers fault Heikki crashed him. Because: Heikki was slightly next to Webber (almost as much as Lewis was next to Kimi) and even more, on the INSIDE! So why the hell did Webber try to force Heikki off track?
And, If you try to overtake on the outside you have to be aware of that fact that you do not own the right of way until you are considerably ahead.
Well, Hamilton was in the lead braking for that chicane, but while entering Kimi was further into the chicane. I mean, forcing Lewis to shortcut the chicane means he was ahead at that point. And there is no rule telling you have to let the competitior pass if he's anywhere near. Fighting for the win of the race Kimi blocked Hamilton so he would have had to either brake or use the shortcut there.
BUT: If he braked he would never have been in the slipstream of Raikkonen, so by letting him by with minimal less speed to get back behind him "Fortunately I got back in his slipstream" was a clear advantage at that point.
I'm not sure whether the 25 seconds are okay, but just in that moment he acted like that I thought "this cannot be according to the rules" because being that close behind Kimi he had all possibilities to go by easily.
BUT: If he braked he would never have been in the slipstream of Raikkonen, so by letting him by with minimal less speed to get back behind him "Fortunately I got back in his slipstream" was a clear advantage at that point.
I'm not sure whether the 25 seconds are okay, but just in that moment he acted like that I thought "this cannot be according to the rules" because being that close behind Kimi he had all possibilities to go by easily.
What he basically meant was the laps before. Being the lapping car but only half a second a lap faster it is hard to get into a 100% perfect lapping position e.g. on the straights due to the aeroloss. We came close several times but had to slowdown for aerodynamic reasons. This happening in 3 laps resulted in a 1sec loss per lap which could just have been solved easier.
I mean the cars that are lapped know they are producing drag which makes it hard to follow closely.
I also know this is also just a thing for this narrow city track but should be considered in every lapping situation to avoid frustration on both sides
And it wasn't a complaint ^^ just a helpful hint
Information by: Team Inferno (#40)
Protest against: Spdo Racing1 (#19)
Lap 114 1st turn under bridge. #19 was overtaking on the outside but has not yet completely passed #40. #40 was on the inside and got hit by turning-in car #19 and spun out. We lost considerable time there.
It would have been possible to give some room mates
Protest against: Spdo Racing1 (#19)
Lap 114 1st turn under bridge. #19 was overtaking on the outside but has not yet completely passed #40. #40 was on the inside and got hit by turning-in car #19 and spun out. We lost considerable time there.
It would have been possible to give some room mates
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