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ajp71
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Quote from Luke.S :Lada ftw.

With american 4x4's the jeep wrangler for example they have this trail rating thing then on this youtube vid i saw a kia sorento which is like half the price made it up a slope the jeep didn't. Yes i said a kia (south korean) so :P to jeep lovers

Which means what exactly about the capability of a vehicle? A soft roader should be able to out perform a top heavy tough 4x4 up an incline in the right conditions. That doesn't mean to say that it'll make a decent off roader or be any good at dealing with the kind of obstacles that proper off road vehicles are built for.
ajp71
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I got 18. But I'm sure I could see better before I started it
ajp71
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Quote from S14 DRIFT :o.o?

I'm sure if you google there would be a company offering replacement 'wheel hubs' for G25's, but it'd a) Invalidate your warranty and b) Be a bloody pain in the ass unless you can do without the 2 wheel buttons.

Why don't you just leave the G25 alone since it's a bloody brilliant piece of kit as it is? Uh-hu

The wheel that comes with the G25 looks horrible and is horrible to hold, the stitching is poor and get in the way and leather isn't as easy to grip as suede, especially on such a small diameter wheel.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :Then maybe that's because it's not as simple as swapping over the wheel hub. It has sensors for position and the force feedback thing. If you managed to change the wheel you would probbably have to change the paddles too.

Don't make up bullshit about something that you have no clue about to try and grow your e-penis. All the sensors and internals are inside the wheel housing, not in the steering boss. To change to an aftermarket wheel all you have to do is unscrew the wheel and unclip the two connectors for the buttons on the wheel. The paddles are attached to the boss.

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(Car wheel =/= Game wheel)

Wrong the wheel that comes with the G25 would bolt straight onto the majority of racing cars which use the standard pattern (3 or 6 screw) pre-drilled steering wheels. As such you could use any adapter to fit a different wheel that you can get from a motorsport parts supplier.
ajp71
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Quote from Minimaxman :
Roll on Snett though, where I expect we'll both have fresher cars.

Are the MR2s running at the 750 meeting at Snett? If so might see you there if the single seater gets fixed in time, did a big end bearing last time out
ajp71
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Quote from Intrepid :I didn't say they would stop, but they would find it more difficult. You know any 8 year olds that earn find £600? It's unfair to make it more difficult to go racing. I do not agree penalising people that work hard, and have the balls to go racing!

How many 8 year olds do you know that can finance their own karting season?
ajp71
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Quote from sam93 :I was thinking about doing that but I thought about screen size etc... because if I made the image with say the size of 1024x768 it will not always be full screen on a monitor that has a bigger resolution then 1024x768 would it? Hope this makes sense, don't know how to really put it

The presentation will be just slides and some bullet points and then we will make notes about each slide.

The image (and whole slide) will be automatically rescaled, but you will loose quality on text when it is rescaled. This is just some school project, don't put too much effort into it, the whole point is to demonstrate you can use powerpoint nobody will care what the end result looks like.
ajp71
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Quote from Becky Rose :
Motor sport is still self funded. Unlike all other developed nations we have no national academy, no motor sports grants or schooling process for talent. You either find the money yourself or you dont race.

Not entirely true, there has been government funding and support for setting up motorsport engineering courses.

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Britain stands tall in international motorsports, most F1 teams are based here, a significant number of winning chassis of major international championships are made here, we have several F1 drivers and currently even a potential F1 champion. We are over-represented in motor sport because we have a national pation for it.

Britain doesn't just stand tall, it is the single most important nation in the world for motorsport, without us we wouldn't have motor racing like it is today. Every team on the F1 grid relies on British expertise, same goes for most other serious racing around the world with technical freedom.

Producing drivers is a very small part of the equation and we are pretty rubbish at it, I also don't see why we particularly need to support up and coming drivers (on paper it is far more expensive to produce one Lewis Hamilton than an olympic team).
ajp71
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Quote from Intrepid :
Considering the amount of fuel used in a rally/single seater event compared to a cadet 60cc kart doubt the charge will be a one off fee the same for all. That would be totally unfair.

Karting is worse than production car racing both in terms of noise and old tyre disposal.

The amount of fuel used and emissions from cars only becomes a significant part of the environmental impact of motor racing when you start doing 24 hour races, even then I doubt it is greater than the diesel used to get 50+ 30 ton articulated trucks to a major event, which in turn becomes irrelevant when you consider the environmental impact of 100000 passenger cars, all of which have about 20 different environmental taxes on them already.

In reality a typical club meeting will have a few thousand spectators, which isn't a lot compared to other sports/social gatherings, quite a few smelly old small trucks a handful of larger articulated trucks and plenty of knackered old 4x4s and MPVs struggling to drag big box trailers. The actual amount of fuel used racing isn't significant (we spend a lot more in diesel to get the single seaters to an event than in fuel to put in them, in fact even the Morgan uses more fuel driving to the track than racing). Now going back to a flower show what is really any different?

Don't forget all competitors still have to pay Gordon for their fuel. Rally cars are road legal and pay full taxes, so surely would be excused from any new tax, same goes for road legal vehicles used in circuit racing. Actually if vehicles driven to circuits were exempt it might even make a tiny difference to traffic and fuel usage with unnecessary tow vehicles and trailers off the road.
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ajp71
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The G25 pedals are not great, but they are passable. There really isn't a satisfactory 3 pedal solution for less than a G25, I know because I was in the same situation and ended up getting a G25.

The first thing I'd change (and did) with a G25 was the wheel itself, it comes with some horribly tacky leather and untreated aluminium wheel that is horrible to use that was evidently made in China. Thankfully the G25 accepts a standard pre-drilled racing wheel so I just put the one from my Frex adapted DFP onto the G25 and only lost the functionallity of the two litte buttons on the wheel. The result is both far better to use and instantly looses the cheap and cheerful look of the standard G25. You don't have to open the wheel cover to change the wheel and if your careful could reassemble it to convincing factory spec for warranty issues.

The pedals are a lot better than the DFP though, positioning isn't great, not as good as on the Fantec wheel. Quality is reasonable though. I have left them standard for now but I think the most useful modification would be Leo's pedal box, the lack of fidelity is particuarly apparant on the throttle in more powerful cars (which is an issue in other sims but not really LFS atm).

You can get a G25 for under £160 delivered from Amazon.
ajp71
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Quote from Intrepid :£50 will have an effect on many kid club racers. Especially young kids who want to go racing and their parents already struggle. Entry fee for a club race is aound thr £40 mark and that is instantly doubled. If a driver does 12 meetings a year that's £600 extra. That's a massive amount of money for some racers

I was talking about proper motor racing where entry fees start at around £200 for club level events to well over £1000 for bigger budget short distance amateur racing.

Karting, motocross and banger racing would all be effected by it. I doubt a £50 increase would really effect karting given the amount of money a lot of people throw at it, other local events would be effected though. For this reason simply applying a tax on the entry fee would seem the fairer thing to do. TBH though local level racing is more destructive in both noise and traffic issues than more organised larger long standanding centres for motorsport (not that either is that bad though).
ajp71
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Use Keynote, at least it doesn't look exactly the same as everything else.
ajp71
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I don't think a levy of £50 would have any real impact on motor racing, even the cheapest entry fees are over four times that amount. I can't imagine it will hurt track days/corporate events either (if they fail to argue they're not sports).

I think a percentage of competitors entry fee would be a better and fairer system. Why sports involving internal combustion engines are being targeted is beyond me though, the majority of carbon emmisions from any event are from everybody driving there, a flower show with equivilent numbers of public isn't going to produce any less pollution.
ajp71
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Go and look at them, they all do pretty much the same job there's no point buying the most expensive one based on its feature list (most of which you'll never use). In the end I couldn't help but get an iPod Nano, as much as I would have preferred to get something slightly different everything else just had that cheap and tacky Chinese feel to them and were clearly 'styled' with lots of blue lights and black to entertain computer modding geeks.
ajp71
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Just phone up Logitech, they often seem to just send replacement bits without even checking if you've actually got the thing in the first place let alone if it has a valid warranty. For them it is easier just to keep customers happy than bother to check everything.
ajp71
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Have you got forced AA and AF turned on? RBR was not designed for AA and AF.
ajp71
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Quote from [RF]-art555 :Quite the opposite.

It has the technologies tested on G25, so its more of a plastic G25 without H-shifter and clutch, rather than DFP...

The biggest issue with the DFP was the wheel itself was not rigid enough to cope with the forces applied on it, particularly with strong FF. The only major internal change between the DFP and G25 has been to make the FF system much stronger. A DFP with G25 internals would be much worse than a DFP!
ajp71
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Where's the RS200?
ajp71
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Quote from bubbles :Your refering to real time attack cars and im refering to street legal cars, xrt doesnt have diffusers etc, thats all in reference.

We've gone very off topic here, your car (before and after your modifications) and other time attack cars all bear very little resemblance to the XRT and starting by creating a base setup using the recommended methods in Bob's Setup Guide and VHPA will get you off to a better start than trying to use whatever you're running on your unrelated real car.

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Also having a wing, canards bodykit is better than having nothing, a real time attack car would be completly illegal to drive on the street, for starters it wont have a cat converter and the exhaust will be over 90bc, half cage is street legal but full cage is completely illegal even if its engineered, lsd's are another defect, acrylic windows are illegal, any sort of chassis modification are illegal, ride height too low is illegal, emmissions needs to be test which will most likely fail, canards and splitters are illegal.
Fiberglass or any over poly or carbon body fabrications are illegal, etc.
In superlap yes some cars should not be on the street but their nothing like a full prep racing car, I was not even talking about this lol

Little confused by this post, is your car road legal? It has what I would have thought would be the issues with having a full rollcage, front legs and prop bars on the front legs and between the front legs and hoop. Though it's not very clear from the photo you definitly have a cross on the hoop and backstays, assuming you've got side bars you're running a full (welded?) competition cage. Chassis modifications usually are more about removing or moving existing chassis parts rather than adding new.

I think some of the confusion has arrisen because Time Attack in the UK/Japan is different to the Australlian series. In the photo gallery you've posted few of the cars have stupidly big wings and bodykits or chrome wheels like in the UK series (where it runs with boy racer/tuning shows) or in the Japanese video someone linked to. Your car doesn't have a silly bodykit, big wing or chrome wheels and looks like it does have a full cage, what you need! I just hope your not running standard manifolds with that tin can on the rear...

Quote :No one cares what you think suspension settings should be or what is required, just because it might work you it doesn't mean it will work for others.

Err... sorry?
ajp71
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Quote from tristancliffe :The rear track control arm is a bit bent, but it'll probably straighten. It was too hard to check the car over properly in the muddy Cadwell paddock, so rather than risk driving a car without wings that is designed for them (stiff suspension etc) we opted to play it safe. I'd already won the championship, so there was little point in risking it...

It's hardly bent if you can't tell from the photo. Attached is a properly bent one and photo of trackside straightening job. For some reason driver reckoned it was only suitable for pushing into the truck, he had a point though as he wouldn't have got very far in the second race with one driveshaft and a free diff

Quote from Jordan2007 :i got banned from karting for having a fight... otherwise i would be doing it today probally and be absolutly No Where

Oh dear, if you were behaving like this at an age where you were supposedly considered mature enough to race and find it funny I really don't want to see you in a car
ajp71
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Actually could be a movie with a decent plot and a different take on the war.

Unfortunately if you let Hollywood do it you'll get some American action movie with Tom Cruise looking like he is playing some kind of pirate who has raided Max Mosley's wardrobe.
ajp71
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Quote from bubbles :
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The drivers name is John Boston and its not his car, this event is different to a normal time attack because you have to race with road registered cars and as you are aware depending on country people are limited to what they are allowed to do to their cars.

There is a law against aftermarket seats in Australia? And weld in cages aren't permitted? And the cars in Race King's link definitely didn't look road worthy...

Quote :So you dont have a clue what your saying after comments like "badly prepared, overpowered understeery 4WD cars with silly bodykits and drivers ranging from second rate to comically bad is going to tell you absolutley nothing about what a good driver can do in a well setup low powered RWD car with no downforce."

Any car that has a wing stuck on it before all previous work has been completed is badly prepared and sticking wings and bodykits on without thinking about the aerodynamic effects is doubly silly. I bet none of those cars have had any kind of serious analysis that has come to the conclusion they need to use considerably larger side skirts, air dams and rear wings than equivalent race cars.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The only thing second rate here are your comments, maybe you should learn to ask question instead of assumptions and you still didn't answer my question, were does this .15Hz minimum rule came from?[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I like to understand things rather than reading rules like a parrot.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Read my post.
ajp71
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Quote from danowat :Looking for opinions from the real life racers in the LFS community......

Basically, I am seriously looking at running a car in the 750mc Stock Hatch next year.

My first suggestion is go and watch some of their races and speak to people in the paddock. 750MC Stock Hatch have big grids and very competitive, close racing, at times it does get too close and by the nature of the series cars do get written off on quite a routine basis. It's not as bad as BTCC and most of the contact isn't done with the intention of taking people out but by running very close in old cars that aren't worth a lot sometimes it will happen, the upside is that you get much closer proper racing than BTCC. You can rent cars in Stock Hatch, I wouldn't suggest doing that on a long term basis because it would work out very expensive but it could give a taster.

If you want to race tin tops on a budget in an environment where you'll get much cleaner racing then look at the 750MC Golf or Production BMWs both of those series would leave you with a more substantial track day car with a slightly high purchase cost but lower running costs. A car from either of those series has to be road legal and due to the lower contact racing can realistically be (and many are) driven to and from race tracks.
ajp71
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Quote from tristancliffe :Nope.

New lower element ~ £400
New end plates ~£200 each (with carbon fibre - cheaper than the alumimium honeycomb versions we had, but about 10 times as strong)
New exhaust section (it was kinked) £50
Diffuser repair ~£150
Various things, like connectors for rain light, and bolts etc £30

But we'll be out at Snetterton in 5 weeks time, I can assure you of that!

Sorry to hear that. Looks like you got away very lightly, especially for an off at Cadwell. Was it just the wings that were damaged? If so you should have hacked them off and run it without them
ajp71
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You have to try quite hard to deny the US has a very strong line up of race tracks, don't you? Europe has plenty of ovals to, for banger racing, speedway, velodromes, dogs, horses, you don't consider them to pollute the ratio of good tracks do you? North America actually has a lot more very good club circuits, that I haven't gone into, all it really lacks is density of tracks but that is because it is such a huge place. In comparison Europe has a lot of good circuits (and some real dogs) in the UK, quite a few in France and then just a handful in the rest of the continent.
ajp71
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Quote from GrIp DrIvEr :Oh, im sorry. I couldn't understand you when you said Corvettes suck.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/ ... top_gear_corvette_c6_z06/

he says its uncomfortable, but yet look how old Jeremy Clarkson is.

The sportier Corvette models are very good cars, they are built very badly though. Using Top Gear as a source for a serious assessment of a car is silly, particularly getting Clarkson's opinion on the 'handling' by doing a few uncontrolled powerslides on an airfield.

The video you should have linked to is this, genuinely impressive, but not the soft commonly seen variant.

Quote from dougie-lampkin :
ANYWAYS, the majority of the worlds best handling cars come from EU/Japan. Lotus Elise, Audi R8, BMW M3, Nissan GT-R, 911 (all of em really) and arguably the Mini. What does US have? The 'Vette and Viper? ROFL.

The Elise and the 911 are the only decent sportscars on that list, because like the Corvette they compromise luxury to stick to their goal of being very capable sportscars. The other 3 are all pretty dull and weigh far too much, and to add insult to injury won't even let you drive the car. If you ever saw the amount of crap that came out of an M3 road car (even a CSL) you'd soon understand why in standard form it really can't be described as anything other than what it is: an overweight, but very well setup and balanced, coupe that doesn't make compromises for performance.

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Also, the majority of the world's best racetracks are outside of the US. Mainly because Americans seem to be fascinated by a flock of cars turning left for several hours, ruining their ratio of good tracks:shite tracks. I can actually do that in our back garden too, with a brick (And it would use 7,000,000% less petrol. Or "gas" in this case.)

Now here is where you don't have a clue what you're talking about. North America has some of the best race tracks in the world, mainy far better than typical European tracks (especially Ireland's offering). To name a few at the top of my head:

Lime Rock Park
Laguna Seca
Mid Ohio
Mosport
Riverside (disused)
Virginia
Road America
Road Atlanta
St Jovite (Mount Tremblant)
Watkins Glen
Sears Point
Sebring

If half of those circuits were in Europe they would probably be considered on a similar level to Spa, because they're American you probably haven't heard of them or have immediately dismissed them, of course none of them are a touch on Mondello Park
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