Quote from tristancliffe :

yup

now that was unexpected.

Quote from Crazy Harry :

Guitar sounds ugly to me. Question of taste, heh?

my absolute favorite track, followed by Everything Remains Raw (crap video, found nothing better) and Woo Ha (begins with Everything remains Raw for a couple of seconds) :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Now listening to Jamal - Keep It Real

Quote from DieKolkrabe :

Hi all. A quick request from me.

Remove the non-racing models, i.e. the so-called 'casual' ones.

/me puts on flame-resistant suit

DK

Stop spamming and get over it, as if threads like this will ever have a influence on the developers decisions.:bananadea

Quote from gohfeld23 :

As I said, I have my DFP set to 720 in profiler and 720 in LFS, have wheel turn comp. at 1.00 and my wheel will FF stop at the cars max rotation so I assumed this would have been the case for the G25 as well.

nope, as i said, it doesn't work, at least not according to my settings. No matter if WTC is set to 0, 1 or anything inbetween.

As far as i understand it, when you set 900 turn degrees in the profiler and in game and then use steering wheel compensation with anything above 0 then you dont have to change your turn degrees anymore, in game or profiler. Problem is that you do not get the "barrier" created by Force Feedback which usually tells you when the range of the turn is reached (for example: 540° set in profiler and game). Now i dont like this solution and this might also work with the DFP (FF barrier) but not with the G25, at least i wasn't able to do so.

Now i always know which cars im about to drive before i fire up LFS so i simple change the turn degrees accordingly (Profiler & Game, Wheel Turn Compensation: 0):

Roadcars: 720° included UFR and XFR
MRT: 270°
FOX & FO8: 450°
BF1: 400°
GTR: 540°

Or just look into each setup at the steering page where it tells you which maximum turn degrees is available for each car, just in case you forget it. I also unplug & plug the wheel in again just to make sure its completely calibrated. When you do so, make sure youre on the desktop and not in the game itself.

Regarding the rest of the settings, in Profiler i use:

105% FF
0% Spring-
0% Dumper Effects

and 0% Center Spring but leave it enabled.

In game i use 35% for almost every car expect for the BF1 where i use just 30% and slightly more for FWD cars, like 40% +/-.

Everyone is doing that different, has different affectations and this is how it should be i think. I know some guys using also 540° for road cars but personally i dont like the idea of reducing the range to act inbetween just to gain slightly more control for certain situations such as catching drifts.

Last edited by 510N3D, Thu 20 Sep 2007, 14:04.

placebo - brick shithouse

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Yes, from the one who cannot spell "whole", I'm stupid and ignorant?

Funny...

Well, im thinking of a couple of reasons:

1. If you're born in 1892, im truly sorry that you've got still a problem with such trivial things.

2. I have not found a single person in this thread that was demanding anything regarding this issue but you may correct me. On the contrary almost everyone agreed that it shouldn't be used in league races since this is obviously something different, thinking about broadcasting and the general seriousness that is involved.

Quote from al heeley :

OMG! The depth of feeling about something I find utterly trivial, I really don't care a jot what the driver model in other players cars look like, it's amazing how much people can get wound up about this sort of thing.

Quote from SamH :

If someone wants to drive a race without a helmet, then it should be their choice. By the same token, if a server operator decides to have a modicum of very basic/fundamental scrutineering on their server, they should also be able to do that. The whole relationship between what you can wear and what an event holder can require you to wear is a new aspect of realism that can only be seen as a plus for LFS.

period.

3. You where able to edit your last comment just in time to avoid the "edited last" status message but i was still able to read where you where telling me that you have got a steering wheel that can also steer to the right which explains almost everything that is in your very first comment which was indeed quite exaggerated.

4. You've spelled "becuase" wrong several times so how dare you canadian bloke facing me my very own misstakes Besides, my mother language is not english so you will have to find another way to make me look ridiculous.

So yes, since i dont know you in personal (and i correct myself at this point) i call your comments plain stupid, like it or disprove my arguments so i can apologize but i assume you would ignore that as well.

Quote from mrodgers :

I see nothing wrong with what Tristan said. I wouldn't call Tristan ignorant in anything that doesn't have to do with oval racing discussion. Well, maybe the "stupid" comment that he made I think is wrong, as I don't agree with freely calling others stupid whether deserved or not. Very often Tristan brings forth helpfulness to the forums (as long as it isn't his oval opinion ) Very rarely do I see ignorance coming from Tristan. Some arrogance maybe, but not ignorance.

Alright you got me (doesn't arrogance includes ignorance? ), but i doubt that he and dawesdust would ever consider entering such conversations without leaving "stupid statements" behind so why should i waste my time and try to solve this the way it should be? I know that they are able to create highly detailed and qualitativ comments regarding several challenging topics and this is why im always surprised when i see such rubbish comming from the same persons.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Without exception the people that use this mod are either below 15 years old (i.e. immature, and needing to impress) or just stupid. I doubt any have any qualifications or prospects.

I am not alone in my opinion on this matter.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Ok, have we all gotten so ****ing bored, that this is what we are bitching about now, a ****ing hex value changed?! This is quite pathetic. If a server wants to tell you to **** off becuase you're using a changed driver model, fine, **** off. It's not that hard to understand. Either grow up, stop being twelve, and use a proper driver model, or go to another ****ing server, becuase chances are, if it's telling you to **** off for using a driver model, you're probably the wrong person to be in that server.

For the sake of completeness and a good laugher...

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Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Ok, have we all gotten so ****ing bored, that this is what we are bitching about now, a ****ing hex value changed?! This is quite pathetic. If a server wants to tell you to **** off becuase you're using a changed driver model, fine, **** off. It's not that hard to understand. Either grow up, stop being twelve, and use a proper driver model, or go to another ****ing server, becuase chances are, if it's telling you to **** off for using a driver model, you're probably the wrong person to be in that server.

Did you even read the hole thread before you've posted? I assume after reading your ridiculous comment that you didn't. This is what tinyk was talking about and just to make you happy, youre not alone, tristancliffe is once again as stupid and ignorant as you are (where "once again" is pointed at tc just to sort that out). :woohoo:illepall

Quote from SamH :

Actually touches on an interesting thought. Playing UT2004, my friends and I created our own model skins from photos. It was a pain in the butt to send them around to everyone, but we were a determined bunch. It's not too great a leap from the helmet skins we have now to a no-visor version using a skinned face from our own photos. It'd be quite a nice compromise between the two camps if we could do that in LFS. There's plenty of space on the existing skin template for us to do it, too

+1 well put, but i think this solution would be placed at the very end of the to-do-list, if ever considered to be added. Question would be, would you allow these models, at least at road car's class at CTRA? I mean hey, what do i need a helmet for when there's not even a rollcage installed?

well in a way i do agree that it looks not realistic at all (regarding leagues) but its still a game and you will never reach the point where a game is as realistic as some of you sticklers want it to be. Besides that, if youre paying more attention on how someones driver model looks like then youre defenently doing something wrong.

Ever tried "one of the first version of lfs"? There was no race suit at all

Last edited by 510N3D, Tue 18 Sep 2007, 00:11.

Quote from Hankstar :

The White House has had plenty of its own conspiracy theories anyway: the Afghans did it; the Iraqis did it; some new evil called "Islamofascism" is threatening to take over the word; Saddam was going to use nukes/chemicals/bioweapons on the US; we have to get "them" over "there" before "they" come and get us; Iran now wants to nuke the US so we have to get them next ... and I could go on. The chief conspiracy theorists in the last 6 years have been White House employees and their on-leash TV commentators/parrots.
I think the only people who are currently terrorising the world with the aid of conspiracy theories live in Washington DC - but that's another discussion entirely.

This may be sounds a bit odd or maybe not but im just curious if the kkk has ever been considered? Im mean this pile of shite is still trying to catch more flies aren't they? I remember that a well known member from this community once joined our ventrilo server and put a link to a forbidden forum behind his name and you wouldn't guess how much bullshit these people are creating, and this also includes every other fascism/ racism "organisation" or "society" world wide. In this respect i hate democracy for its tolerance towards those sort of individuals. But on the other hand, i cant blame it since this is what it all about and differs it from them. (Well ok, that clown has been banned for life from all FM servers (at least as long as i do have the admin pass )) But this is another topic and im not going any further here since name and shame is forbidden and this forum isn't the place to do so anyway. So please just focus on the question if you intent to answer.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Can we get this thread back on topic?

lol, alright then, lets go off topic again cuz thats what i would call it but thats a matter of how your interpret it right?

whatever..

For people with enough knowledge and power, its easy to manipulate "the hole picture", turning facts around and making innocent people guilty and the opposite of it. And one thing is for sure, they give a damn about anything as long as they can pull the trigger. Now im not sure what to believe and im not about to bring any kind of information into this conversation since im not sure who and for what purpose they has been made, where the sources are from and most importantly, which side they support. I would support the theorie that we already passed the point where the ordinary people had enough influence on this complected issue since too many important informations and evidences has been destroyed, people has been payed or forced to shut up. But then again, this is just a theorie and i'd love to be proven wrong on that.
Im curious about what's comming next and how it's gonna end and i know exactly who's going to take over when this "democratic system" fails but thats another story. illepall

Hope for the best and be prepared for the rest...

cheers

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Quote from DeadWolfBones :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HxklB-PR7kA

this is not funny at all illepall

Edit: added quote and yes i blame the ones who make it and also those who spread it.

Last edited by 510N3D, Thu 13 Sep 2007, 16:22.

Quote from dude56 :

Advice: NEVER buy a game from Atari. NEVER. Every single game Atari has ever published is riddled with bugs to the point that it's unplayable, without exception.

http://www.tv-links.co.uk/video/9/5365/8005/51730/75139

Im not going into detail, just watch this video. Besides, after reading your post i count you to the sort of persons that are simple unable to either setup your own pc or the game itself properly. Just speculating.

Edit: thanks dawesdust, it was working when i was watching it at the same time =)

http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/9/5365

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Quote from The Very End :

How you know that the orginal was fake or not?

The one without texts etc etc.

because im german and i do understand what and how he said things. Besides all that, just have a look at this and see what else he made.

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=was+willst+du+tun

He might not be professional but still the fact remains that he's just acting and nothing else.

Count yourself to the group who got fooled by him

Quote from The Very End :

I don`t know if the bahavoiur of the kid is fake or not.
If it`s not fake I feel kind of ashamed to say things like "lol" at him, because he maybe has ADHD. But I strongely belive it`s all acting, or at least I hope it is :/
But the text is just for fun, you can listen that he says Unreal Turnamnet instead of "OMG" that it was transelated to

and again....this IS a fake, a show

btw Gil07, nice one

Quote from hectic :

Why did Scawen bother putting a RAC in the game? I don't drive it, so it's gotta be time consuming. Heck, let's get rid of the XR GT, I don't drive that either, it's too slow and its rims look iffy. Btw, seeing that only 1 out of 50 servers use the forced cockpit option why did Scawen bother wasting his time on that? -_-" /rant /sarcasm

I vote yes, as I sometimes I find myself quickly changing views to see cars around me, and obviously that can be dangerous. Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to have it as an option, much like how FCV is a server option?

totally agree. I hate to quote myself but i think this sort of fits to your reply.

Quote from myself :

Now my point is and as you have already said (LFS should maintain configurability) why should it be forced when most of the server admins are clever enough to decide whether or not an individual option is useful or not for their own preferences. What if we had just two buttons to decide from. Either realistic/ hardcore mode or normal/ public mode. This would of course include settings for the view, controller, reset option and everthing else that devides ultra realistic (league like) conditions from public "5 minutes sprints". A filter in the server list would make it visible for everybody and nobody would be harmed.

maybe not just two buttons but a little menu to decide which options should be forced off or remain enabled. Papyrus NR for instance did it the same way and take a guess, its also a hardcore simulation. But more then that it fits the needs of almost every kind of preferences, up to a given level of course.

Quote from tristancliffe :

You don't like the realism discussion because you can't do it. You play the easiest car on the easiest track, letting only the experienced people get near you (by banning everyone else), so I don't expect you to have a concept of what it's really like driving a race car. This discussion is too much for you, so it's you that should leave it, not I.........

.........Yes, because both are daft, crap, and need removing from LFS (the oval can come back when the simulation is ready for it)......

.........Your English and spelling have got a lot worse recently - who are you, and what have you done with the real "The Very End"? .......

You want a discussion? Are you kidding me? If you insult people then you cant demand a discussion. Besides, youre still stuck with informations based on hearsay. End of conversation superman.

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

LOL

I know that this is fake... I only said that this guy ruined his own life..
Look how he act's behind the camera..(schandaaaaalig)

now thats contradiction in terms. How can he ruin his life by performing a show like this? LOL...

lol youre right Gil, its a fake and also veeery old.

"with this i want to point out that this little retard is the worst example for german people." LOL just in case its not a fake, how could he represent german people at all? What a smart guy this translator is. Followed by the sentence: "this video contains explicit swearing." ...:bananadea

Just in case youre able to understand the language and got a bit sence of humor with some understanding for sarcasm then youll get it in the first couple of seconds that this is just a fake and nothing else. Apparently he fooled alot of people Besides, this is most probably not the non plus ultra of stupid behaviour and again, it represents not german people but every single dumb child around the world sitting 24/7 infront of their pc and are obviously doing nothing else then playing dumb ego shooter games, .

thinner tyres ?

yeah...

anyway, i enjoy every car because its great to have a FWD, RWD and AWD so whatever youre up to, you've got the agony of choise.

PS: FXO for sissys and its unspinable? heck you never reached the limits did you?

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turn off AA and AF maybe that helps

yeah yeah, silicon is the main component but do you think all the other components do have the same melting point? And just in case you have forgotten to set a proper temprature level in the bios, its most definitively going above 90°C. Also, the sockets are mostly build out of plastic and even the main components of the mainboard most probably wont last for long at 90°+.

Quote from pb32000 :

Fact of the matter is your CPU will not die from temperature related matters alone at 60 degrees

depending on the model as the tabel shows.

Quote from pb32000 :

Sadly all of this doesn't bring us any closer to Gil's problem.

maybe he should just reinstall the system

well ignoring that table, your statement sounds more generalized which means even cpu's with a max temp of 90°C would get damaged or die after a while, while running at ~60°C?

If thats true then i was pretty lucky, had a 2800+ running with something around 55°C to 65°C for a couple of years and i bet its still working but i had to remove the dust from it first :P

http://www.pantherproducts.co. ... /CPU%20Temperatures.shtml

not sure if these values are correct at all but the point is that it depends on the CPU model and manufacturer. So both of you guys are wrong, in a way