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GT1WS 2013 Round 4: Protests and Penalties
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GT1WS 2013 Round 4: Protests and Penalties
Please file any protests you wish to file here.

Qualifying Protests Deadline: 23:15 UTC Friday, 1 February 2013
Race Protests Deadline: 15:15 UTC Tuesday, 5 February 2013

Please Provide ALL of the following:

Session of Incident
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident
Lap and Location of Incident
Your Car Number
Other Car(s) Involved
Brief Description of Incident

Penalty Log:
Qualifying
None.

Race - ALL LAPS ARE THE SERVER LAPS AT THE TIME OF PENALTY FOR THAT CAR
Car 13 - DT for Speeding in the Pitlane - Issued L30 appx 1h07m, Served Lap 32
Car 58 - DT for Chat - Issued L69 appx 2h45m, Served Lap 70
Car 09 - DT for Causing an Avoidable Incident - Issued Lap 71 appx 2h45m, Served Lap 72
Car 22 - SG for Causing an Avoidable Incident - Issued Lap 19 appx 3h13m, Served Lap 21
Car 74 - DT for Chat - Issued L69 appx. 5h40m, Served Lap 70
Car 62 - DT for Chat - Issued L162 appx 6h17m, Served Lap 163
Car 68 - DT for Ignoring Blue Flags & Causing an Avoidable Incident - Issues L120 appx 6h36m, Served Lap 121
Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident 1 hour 59 minutes
Lap and Location of Incident: 51, boothy chicane
Your Car Number 05
Other Car(s) Involved 09
Brief Description of Incident
09 dive bombs 05, touches on braking, car 05 gives room to the inside and both cares make it successfully to the exit, however 09 had not slowed down enough and slams into the 05 sending it spinning.

09 was turning to the right in ingame wheel, right into the 05. he then jockeyed the wheel the other direction after realizing it was too late and that the 05 was still there
Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: 1h 19 min
Lap and Location of Incident: 33, T3
Your Car Number: 58
Other Car(s) Involved: 22
Brief Description of Incident: Car #22 fails to brake adequately and drives straight into the back of car #58, ruining their race.
Quote from Bmxtwins :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident 1 hour 59 minutes
Lap and Location of Incident: 51, boothy chicane
Your Car Number 05
Other Car(s) Involved 09
Brief Description of Incident
09 dive bombs 05, touches on braking, car 05 gives room to the inside and both cares make it successfully to the exit, however 09 had not slowed down enough and slams into the 05 sending it spinning.

09 was turning to the right in ingame wheel, right into the 05. he then jockeyed the wheel the other direction after realizing it was too late and that the 05 was still there

DT 09 for an avoidable incident - car 09 was almost fully alongside into the chicane, but a yellow flag appeared which was unheeded, and then 05 was forced off the track and into the gravel.
Quote from przemek21061995 :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: 1h 19 min
Lap and Location of Incident: 33, T3
Your Car Number: 58
Other Car(s) Involved: 22
Brief Description of Incident: Car #22 fails to brake adequately and drives straight into the back of car #58, ruining their race.

SG car 22, (driver on probation) looks to the inside, but instead brakes too late and then turns back onto the racing line hitting 58.
Session of Incident Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident 19:45UTC ish
Lap and Location of Incident 123, right before t1
Your Car Number 13
Other Car(s) Involved 07
Brief Description of Incident: Isaac gets left no room by Niki and gets wrecked into the wall
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Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: MPR time ~ 5hr 47min
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 149, turn 1&2
Your Car Number: #59
Other Car(s) Involved: #68
Brief Description of Incident: Car #59 goes to lap #68 having racing line and speed advantage, after which #68 defends like it is a matter of life and death. Result was time loss and damage taken for car #59
Quote from PwrSlave :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: MPR time ~ 5hr 47min
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 149, turn 1&2
Your Car Number: #59
Other Car(s) Involved: #68
Brief Description of Incident: Car #59 goes to lap #68 having racing line and speed advantage, after which #68 defends like it is a matter of life and death. Result was time loss and damage taken for car #59

Car 68 -2 laps at the time of incident, defends and reattacks the position on the way to T1, and sends both cars off. DT for Ignoring Blue Flags and Causing an Avoidable Incident.
#9 - L3VO
Session of Incident Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident 23:54UTC ish
Lap and Location of Incident 201, right before t13-14
Your Car Number 55
Other Car(s) Involved 05
Brief Description of Incident: No brake on Boothy chicane!
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident 8 hrs 8 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: our 209- 211
Your Car Number:57
Other Car(s) Involved:07 (06 as possible victim)
Brief Description of Incident:
07 is slow: and aggressively drives blocks and runs us off course. multiple displays of bad and unsafe driving
Quote from L3VO :Session of Incident Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident 23:54UTC ish
Lap and Location of Incident 201, right before t13-14
Your Car Number 55
Other Car(s) Involved 05
Brief Description of Incident: No brake on Boothy chicane!

DT to Car 05 for Ignoring Yellow Flags, Causing an Avoidable Incident. 55 and others are slowed due to some schemozzling through the chicane, and 05 declines to pay attention to the situation ahead and continues to accelerate.

Quote from Mustangman759 :MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident 8 hrs 8 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: our 209- 211
Your Car Number:57
Other Car(s) Involved:07 (06 as possible victim)
Brief Description of Incident:
07 is slow: and aggressively drives blocks and runs us off course. multiple displays of bad and unsafe driving

Car 07 has one slight bump with Car 55 at Turn 16 on Lap 211, Car 57 comes back to stay alongside, but shortcuts the course to gain the position. Warning to 07 for Avoidable Contact, DT to Car 57 for advancing position while cutting the course.
Quote from dekojester :


Car 07 has one slight bump with Car 55 at Turn 16 on Lap 211, Car 57 comes back to stay alongside, but shortcuts the course to gain the position. Warning to 07 for Avoidable Contact, DT to Car 57 for advancing position while cutting the course.

Sorry if this shouldn't be posted here. We would like to have this looked at. Because the 07 caused avoidable contact, forcing us off track. Otherwise we would not have overtaken off track.
protest
Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 10 hours 50 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 281, turn 1
Your Car Number: #21
Other Car(s) Involved: #57
Brief Description of Incident: Car #21 is lapping car #57, #57 doesn't give way and spins car #21.
Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 10 hours 51 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 282, boothychicane
Your Car Number: #21
Other Car(s) Involved:
Brief Description of Incident: Car #21 cuts the boothy chicane not even lifting
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 11 hours 7 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 289, turn 1
Your Car Number: #21
Other Car(s) Involved: #11
Brief Description of Incident: #11 trying to pass #21 but doesn't leave enough space and hits #21.
Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode: 11:00:15
Lead Lap 286, Lap #285 for #69
Your Car Number: #69
Other Car(s) Involved: #02

#02 was about to lap #69 approaching Turn 9. Instead of waiting for a better spot #02 tries to overtake in T9 but cant make it stick due to the nature of the corner. On the Way to Turn 11 #02 starts honking for no reason and gets right up the bumber of #69. In the braking zone of T11 #02 stays right on the bumper of #69 instead of going side by side, where there was plenty of room. #02 touches #69, sending #69 to the wall.

Allthough the time loss was marginal for us, we would like to protest this incident because we don't want to accept this behaviour during lapping, no matter what the position is. You might be in a tight battle, but the car you are lapping is racing for the best result as well, and can't warp himself out the way. The faster car should be responsible for a clean move and should also be aware that it's the nature of multiclass racing that you might have to lose some time when you lap other classes.
Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode: 12:32:15
Lead Lap 327, Lap #319 for #05
Your Car Number: #05
Other Car(s) Involved: #62

(Posting on Ray's behalf)
#62 runs into the back of the #05, causing the latter to run loose and also damage that had to be promptly repaired, costing the #05 even more time at the end of the situation.
Quote from The_WheelMan :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 10 hours 50 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 281, turn 1
Your Car Number: #21
Other Car(s) Involved: #57
Brief Description of Incident: Car #21 is lapping car #57, #57 doesn't give way and spins car #21.

DT car 57

Quote from Bmxtwins :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 10 hours 51 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 282, boothychicane
Your Car Number: #21
Other Car(s) Involved:
Brief Description of Incident: Car #21 cuts the boothy chicane not even lifting

Warning car 21 for the contact while lapping car 57 in the above protest and also cutting the chicane exit.

Quote from The_WheelMan :MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 11 hours 7 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 289, turn 1
Your Car Number: #21
Other Car(s) Involved: #11
Brief Description of Incident: #11 trying to pass #21 but doesn't leave enough space and hits #21.

Racing incident no penalty

Quote from Metalass :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode: 11:00:15
Lead Lap 286, Lap #285 for #69
Your Car Number: #69
Other Car(s) Involved: #02

DT car 02 for the avoidable contact with 69

Quote from Senninha25 :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode: 12:32:15
Lead Lap 327, Lap #319 for #05
Your Car Number: #05
Other Car(s) Involved: #62

DT car 62 for the avoidable contact, although the end result of the incident was exacerbated by 05's overreactions.
Quote from boothy :DT car 62 for the avoidable contact, although the end result of the incident was exacerbated by 05's overreactions.

I would like to appeal to this judgement. #05 had blue flag, I (#62) was much faster than him, but I didn't have any space to bypass him, therefore I though he will let me go (by keeping off the racing line) before the turn. When I (#62) realized, that #05 won't do anything (even so he had blue flag), I started braking, and trying to avoid the crash.
Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 13 hours 24 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: boothy chicane
Your Car Number: #68
Other Car(s) Involved: #21
Brief Description of Incident: Excessive cutting, flying tires for few laps.
Quote from Robendo :Session of Incident Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident 19:45UTC ish
Lap and Location of Incident 123, right before t1
Your Car Number 13
Other Car(s) Involved 07
Brief Description of Incident: Isaac gets left no room by Niki and gets wrecked into the wall

Warning to Car 13 for causing an avoidable incident.

Quote from Bmxtwins :
Quote from dekojester :
Quote from Mustangman759 :MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident 8 hrs 8 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: our 209- 211
Your Car Number:57
Other Car(s) Involved:07 (06 as possible victim)
Brief Description of Incident:
07 is slow: and aggressively drives blocks and runs us off course. multiple displays of bad and unsafe driving

Car 07 has one slight bump with Car 57 at Turn 16 on Lap 211, Car 57 comes back to stay alongside, but shortcuts the course to gain the position. Warning to 07 for Avoidable Contact, DT to Car 57 for advancing position while cutting the course.

Sorry if this shouldn't be posted here. We would like to have this looked at. Because the 07 caused avoidable contact, forcing us off track. Otherwise we would not have overtaken off track.

Car 57 penalty reduced to warning. The off-track force was 07 not leaving enough room at turn 18, not the initial contact at turn 16.

Quote from wody21 :I would like to appeal to this judgement. #05 had blue flag, I (#62) was much faster than him, but I didn't have any space to bypass him, therefore I though he will let me go (by keeping off the racing line) before the turn. When I (#62) realized, that #05 won't do anything (even so he had blue flag), I started braking, and trying to avoid the crash.

Appeal denied. A blue flagged car must not defend against a properly presented overtaking maneuver, elsewise they may take whatever line they desire. Car 62 made no such overtaking maneuver, therefore no yielding action was required by Car 05.
Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 12 hours 41
Lap and Location of Incident: boothy chicane lap 328, 331
Your Car Number: #69
Other Car(s) Involved: #
Brief Description of Incident: Excessive cutting

just 2 I saw, sure there were others
Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 12 hours 24m
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 320 for us, before left handed sweeper which enters oval
Your Car Number: #57
Other Car(s) Involved: #58
Brief Description of Incident: unsafe rejoin by vires, went straight across track when could have stayed close to grass. #57 yielded yellow flag. #57 is totaled due to this, many positions lost
Quote from Bmxtwins :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 12 hours 41
Lap and Location of Incident: boothy chicane lap 328, 331
Your Car Number: #69
Other Car(s) Involved: #
Brief Description of Incident: Excessive cutting

just 2 I saw, sure there were others

1st reported shortcutting: Incidental.
2nd reported shortcutting: Due to tyre in car's path.

Quote from Mustangman759 :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 12 hours 24m
Lap and Location of Incident: lap 320 for us, before left handed sweeper which enters oval
Your Car Number: #57
Other Car(s) Involved: #58
Brief Description of Incident: unsafe rejoin by vires, went straight across track when could have stayed close to grass. #57 yielded yellow flag. #57 is totaled due to this, many positions lost

Car 58 will be held in pits for 1 lap for unsafe recovering from an incident.
Quote from Makao :Session of Incident: Race
MPR Timecode -OR- UTC Time of Incident: ~ 13 hours 24 mins
Lap and Location of Incident: boothy chicane
Your Car Number: #68
Other Car(s) Involved: #21
Brief Description of Incident: Excessive cutting, flying tires for few laps.

Warning to Car 21 for scattering tyres repetitiously.
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