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Quote from r4ptor :Then say it was done in a rush, and don't blame LFS for it - we all know how the models are. I've done tons of renders and none of my reflections look that bad. Yours however look like the car had 3/4 of the polys reduced.

You need to pay attention to lighting and how you add the reflector - do it enough times and you'll be able to come up with better renders in same or even less time depending on final overall quality. But in this case. Same time or faster, for sure.

Dude, if I want to make it looks smooth, I can, as you can see it here.

I'm not talking about me, I know how to do, I'm not a PRO but I have the basic knowledge, that's not the point, I just said LFS cars sucks, as RB4, for example.

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No one needs to be a pro to be able to do good renders.
r4ptor your being a bit critical considering this is all done for free...
Quote from Mustangman759 :r4ptor your being a bit critical considering this is all done for free...

Well not exactly. Leo said the reflections are not good because of the low-poly LFS cars and r4ptor tried to explain this is not true.

I think.
Quote from Bose321 :Well not exactly. Leo said the reflections are not good because of the low-poly LFS cars and r4ptor tried to explain this is not true.

I think.

What I've been trying to say from the beggining, is that I don't want to spend "10 hours" making a simple render, so don't blame me if the reflections are not good because of the low-poly modeled cars of LFS. This is what I'm trying to explain.
Mustangman759: I do not agree. Have a look at my site (signature). I have 495 renders online of which 359 were requested. That's a bunch. Just click on the "request" keyword and you'll see all of them.

If it was common for me to request renders then perhaps I'd deserve a kick in the nuts, but I don't. I offer them for free myself, so I think I'm in perfectly fine position to not only critique, but also to know what I'm talking about - and a render like that doesn't need any degree of "pro-ism" to it, to be better, nor would it need 10h work on it. It's about basic knowledge and Leo does not seem to be acknowledging that but instead places the blame elsewhere even though he's been doing plenty of renders before.

Trouble is Leo expects the software and models to do the job and not him. My point was "it's your job to present the render in a workable way" and this is true everywhere. Lowres, highres, photography (can't get more detailed or real than that - still, not everyone can take good pictures. I wonder why?... Rhetorical question!).

It takes lets say 1/100th of a sec to take a good picture and it will take 1/100th of a sec to take a bad one. Whats the difference? The stuff going on in the photographers mind. Same applies to many things in 3d. It not all about enabling features, effects and whatnot. All good renders depend on the person working on them and less on the software or quality of models/textures/whatever used.

I find it very provocative to say that it would require something like 10 hours - well, if it does then you aren't even qualified to speak out about quality.
Quote from r4ptor :Mustangman759: I do not agree. Have a look at my site (signature). I have 495 renders online of which 359 were requested. That's a bunch. Just click on the "request" keyword and you'll see all of them.

If it was common for me to request renders then perhaps I'd deserve a kick in the nuts, but I don't. I offer them for free myself, so I think I'm in perfectly fine position to not only critique, but also to know what I'm talking about - and a render like that doesn't need any degree of "pro-ism" to it, to be better, nor would it need 10h work on it. It's about basic knowledge and Leo does not seem to be acknowledging that but instead places the blame elsewhere even though he's been doing plenty of renders before.

Trouble is Leo expects the software and models to do the job and not him. My point was "it's your job to present the render in a workable way" and this is true everywhere. Lowres, highres, photography (can't get more detailed or real than that - still, not everyone can take good pictures. I wonder why?... Rhetorical question!).

It takes lets say 1/100th of a sec to take a good picture and it will take 1/100th of a sec to take a bad one. Whats the difference? The stuff going on in the photographers mind. Same applies to many things in 3d. It not all about enabling features, effects and whatnot. All good renders depend on the person working on them and less on the software or quality of models/textures/whatever used.

I find it very provocative to say that it would require something like 10 hours - well, if it does then you aren't even qualified to speak out about quality.

If you didn't understand, I was ironic
You mean sarcastic?
I know you didn't mean it literally but exaggerated to make a point. But there's no need for it - it's a matter of minutes to improves reflections, especially when doing a quick WIPish render.
Quote from Bose321 :Skin size isn't too big, I wonder why they are 8192 though? It looks low-res with some random text and ads on them.

What resolution render do you want, and the cars alone or together?

Well 1920x1080 and 1280x1024. And skin is 8192 because wanted to try quality with that size and for better quality xrt "frontlights". And maybe grey background like in LLM render and both cars in same pic.

Thanks
Quote from r4ptor :Mustangman759: I do not agree. Have a look at my site (signature). I have 495 renders online of which 359 were requested. That's a bunch. Just click on the "request" keyword and you'll see all of them.

If it was common for me to request renders then perhaps I'd deserve a kick in the nuts, but I don't. I offer them for free myself, so I think I'm in perfectly fine position to not only critique, but also to know what I'm talking about - and a render like that doesn't need any degree of "pro-ism" to it, to be better, nor would it need 10h work on it. It's about basic knowledge and Leo does not seem to be acknowledging that but instead places the blame elsewhere even though he's been doing plenty of renders before.

Trouble is Leo expects the software and models to do the job and not him. My point was "it's your job to present the render in a workable way" and this is true everywhere. Lowres, highres, photography (can't get more detailed or real than that - still, not everyone can take good pictures. I wonder why?... Rhetorical question!).

It takes lets say 1/100th of a sec to take a good picture and it will take 1/100th of a sec to take a bad one. Whats the difference? The stuff going on in the photographers mind. Same applies to many things in 3d. It not all about enabling features, effects and whatnot. All good renders depend on the person working on them and less on the software or quality of models/textures/whatever used.

I find it very provocative to say that it would require something like 10 hours - well, if it does then you aren't even qualified to speak out about quality.

Well I think its great everyone does, but hey he does it for free so do you! we cant get mad at people for doing free things!
people rape for free,wont u get mad if it happened to you?
What software do you use to make your renders?
Quote from e2mustang :people rape for free,wont u get mad if it happened to you?

only in jersey baby (couldnt resist)
Quote from e2mustang :people rape for free,wont u get mad if it happened to you?

I think you got him there
Quote from jepsertti :Well 1920x1080 and 1280x1024. And skin is 8192 because wanted to try quality with that size and for better quality xrt "frontlights". And maybe grey background like in LLM render and both cars in same pic.

Thanks

I hope you like them! Merry christmas!
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Meh. If you can, thanks.
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Quote from Bose321 :I hope you like them! Merry christmas!

WOW! It's awesome! Thank you really much! And merry christmas for you too! :wmann3:
Quote from Bose321 :I hope you like them! Merry christmas!

One thought though - Isn't that XRT kinda.. small?
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(r4ptor) DELETED by Flame CZE : original post moved to the right section
Finally got around to look at a 2 month old request - jeeez, time flies fast

Also did a screen cap recording while working on them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFvpdJMExZY

Nice as usual, thank you!
oh damn i love that last camangle!
it fully the style i love so much.

You also have some request from me(just remember :P)



MAybe the same angle? and may the first one with same background!
I know i know there is a reallife.
nice
Thanks for the comments.

Kiste, I haven't forgotten about you. I have few more to do for FlameCZE, and then you're next in line.

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