I thought the general consensus was that we needed chassis flex simulated before karts would actually make sense ... .

Quote from muhaa :

Buffer over flow you mean

Same thing as what he said, haw could you differentiate them unless you're just being picky?

RE Carts:

The video looks berserk, but that's a pretty seriously wide angle on the camera to make it look that way... Not that it isn't still insane

Any new vehicles in LFS would be a welcome addition IMO.

I think karts would be a great addition to LFS, and tracks would'nt really be a problem, just use the auto test park.

Seem to remember a year or two ago someone used LFS Tweak to "tweak" the MRT, ran some races on a server as well i think ? (whatever happened to that ?)

Quote from Linsen :

I thought the general consensus was that we needed chassis flex simulated before karts would actually make sense ... .

indeed ... any kart simulated with the current engine would be utterly unrealistic at best
not to mention the various complications of simulating a vehicle that weights about as much as the driver

Quote from BigDave2967 :

He's forgotton his pacifier/dummy, which is why he's in a cranky mood.

There ya go Leppy! *hands over the dirty dummy*

I want a clean one!

From what I understand, the MRT has some sort of motorcycle engine in it. Instead if it just being an inline engine, maybe make another car to race against it have a V? I know the story of the MRT and what it's based on. But so what? It's a race car to us. and it's fun on ashton cadet.

I'm sorry, but I can't really take Karts seriously as racing cars - well as far as LFS goes. I mean they are just too small for the tracks that already out there and probably for the ones to come. Like if you were to model a real go-kart for LFS and use it on Kyoto Long, would it be able to make a complete lap without running out of gas?

It would easily do a lap. In fact, most karts would probably do 5 or 6 laps. You might die of boredom however.

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

It would easily do a lap. In fact, most karts would probably do 5 or 6 laps. You might die of boredom however.

Yes, I agree . Does depend on the type of kart tho. I heard that the Formula Super A karts can reach up to speeds of 300+ KMH (or 180+ MPH for you English people ) so I'd say it would still be challenging. Also, apart from the fact that they reach those speeds, the fun part with karts is the braking zone .

Aside from the actual fun of having karts, I've read an article here which says that a lot of karters use simulators so if karts were added to the game (ofcourse, as Becky said here (I think it was Becky anyway ) the whole chassis flexing would have to be implemented to truly simulate karts but if it were done, it would bring in quite an amount of $ for the devs

+1

Aparrently because karts have a fixed chassis, doesn't bend, Its like....impossible to do it

I'm not sure, i would just love a kart though, rotax, or even super karts , but, i don't like the way, in an MRT, Slide=spin, in a kart you kinda Gotta slide it around the tighter corners

Quote from Leprekaun :

I heard that the Formula Super A karts can reach up to speeds of 300+ KMH (or 180+ MPH for you English people ).

I think your getting a little confused. Formula Super A was a class that used to be around a few years ago. It's a Formula A with a bigger (slide) carb basically. 100cc direct-drive.
What your thinking of is a Superkart... 250cc 6 speed.

Quote from harjun :

Aparrently because karts have a fixed chassis, doesn't bend

One of the key aspects of any karts handling is how much it will bend an flex. They all bend and flex, any car/kart/bike/plane chassis will bend and flex to some degree.

Quote from harjun :

in a kart you kinda Gotta slide it around the tighter corners

That's not right... as the saying goes.. "any time spent going sideways is time spent not going forward".
Driving a kart quickly is about being smooth, neat and tidy. Going sideways scrubs off too much speed.

they are gearbox karts...i've raced a few before...go to about 120-140mph

You are 6 years old - I doubt you have raced a 140mph shifter kart.

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You are 6 years old - I doubt you have raced a 140mph shifter kart.

Well considering you cant race them until your 17 i'd say your probably right there.

Quote from Linsen :

I thought the general consensus was that we needed chassis flex simulated before karts would actually make sense ... .

Yeah, it's pointless to have a kart if you can't simulate the chasis properly.

A quick kart engine question for the karters among us:

Given a typical rental kart, with a 270cc engine (that's all I know), what's the likely power/torque outputs? And at what sort of rpm should these figures be occuring? Cheers. Kart is claimed to reach at least 80km/h (50mph).

Photo of engine: http://bohushyrkart.se/media/Motor.png

Well, if your talking about british Cadet Karts...2 stroke engines...capable of speeds about 40-50mph...6BHP

Thunder Karts... 12BHP speeds till 60-70

I can't wait for karts in LFS. The only problem is, that Fern Bay seems to be the only track fit to have a kart race on. Tracks like Aston and Kyoto are just too wide.

100cc 2 stroke kart engines develop anywhere from 18hp up to 35hp depending on level of tuning and port configuration (piston port, reed valve etc)

Autocross would do too, and if we talk about these kart`s that can do over 100 mph, then Blackwood would suit it perfect.

By the way i HAVE driven a gearbox kart in spain ok?... 1 of my best friends has one...

OOh...i just soo cant wait for a kart!

A 140mph one? Did you overclock it?

He parked it near the electrical outlet!

Quote from tristancliffe :

A 140mph one? Did you overclock it?

:ices_rofl

Your evil

Quote from tristancliffe :

A 140mph one? Did you overclock it?

LOL!!!! Made me laugh so much!

nope i didnt infact...there was no output device on the battery

ROFL Tristan and BBT. You've completed my sig now xD

Anyway, what's to stop us from getting (or MAKING) a proper kart track with the autox editor?

EDIT: Forget karts, My vote goes to a Champ Car :P (And a /proper/ superspeedway)

DK