Hello,
The current 3000 object limit has started to feel insufficient. Having to delete an existing object to add a new one is quite frustrating. I don't think increasing this object limit would pose a major technical challenge for you and therefore wouldn't affect the upcoming major update. Many players share my view, so I am confident that this increase will be a welcome development that will boost player satisfaction before the major update.
We kindly request that you consider this matter.

We have asked the developers for this many times, but unfortunately, the layout limit is now restricted, we can't do anything else, we demand that it be increased.

don't you think that if it was a simple thing to change, Scawen would have changed it?

Quote from gu3st :

don't you think that if it was a simple thing to change, Scawen would have...

I think everyone finds this inadequate.

Quote from NiceDoriDori :

I think everyone finds this inadequate.

If you meant about current object limit, I can say for sure that not everyone.

...but apparently majority... 18 / 0.


I guess the biggest issue is usually creating smooth corners with concrete slabs. I created one corner... ONE... one banked corner that vehicles do not break suspension immediately at high speed... and that did eat already 1055 objects... it didn't even count as walls yet.



I think this is a bit conflicting... Scawen has mentioned from time to time about the current situation and upcoming plausible updates about layout objects ( and probably size limit too )... but most of us already bottlenecked it for sure.

I do need more for instance. I also understand that the track editor itself would be helpful so no need to use layout objects ever again...

...false. Layout objects will ALWAYS be in use... in final resort as insim objects.

I'll just drop this here https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/110664-Update-layout-format-for-increased-resolution-and-data-capacity

Scawen mentioned that the layout object format could be updated to double capacity at some point, and my suggestion for the possible new format, along with doubled object count, would still result in pretty small layout files, so this could be a big win for usability and layout possibilities.

Quote from NiceDoriDori :

the layout limit is now restricted, we can't do anything else

Stop complaining,then limit is now 6 times bigger compared to times when I started in LFS - back then there were just 500 objects available and concrete objects not even planned. Layout editor has been improved significantly since then,even if I don't oppose raising the layout objects count,there are few higher priorities in updates than this.

If I remember correctly, it was 512 objects... but somehow I do remember it was even less that some point... at least not all the objects were available in every track environment. For example, Ramps were only in use at Blackwood.

And they were slippery too and hitting them caused a vehicle to go either through or flying into the skies. Also it was impossible to put them on air, so had to be seriously creative to make wallride platforms in first place back then.


I am also not claiming that this should be currently in highest priority, but I do not see a point why it can't be raised in Layout Square straight away. Sure, it will cause an impact in performance wise when exceeding high number of entities included. On the other hand, people are using plenty of unofficial addons and texture packs to increase a demand and in some parts not in lightly at all.

But... have to be patient. I have waited an update since 2008 about tyre physics. I have three times gone in hiatus. Last hiatus was supposed to be a permanent.. only to be getting dragged back at LFS again lol. How wrong I was... completely.

But one fact is not changed: it is currently bottlenecked.

Quote from UnknownMaster21 :

If I remember correctly, it was 512 objects... but somehow I do remember it was...

I guess the point I was trying to make above was that if the limit was easy to raise, don't we think that Scawen would have raised it? (Programmers love ez wins like that)

Like there's bound to be some structure, either network or memory, or perhaps even just version/insim compatibility that currently restricts that limit and changing it is best left for a time when other things are also changing

Maybe it is performance concerns or file size (especially as layouts can be changed on the fly via admin tools and InSim) but Scawen has a better idea of what the potential issues are.