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Quote from dekojester :A US Federal Appeals Court possibly ruins the Internet

And lets not forget the TPPA. ( What's that you all ask ?, exactly ! )
http://landdestroyer.blogspot. ... ership-tpp-threat-to.html

Or this, Too right Americans have an issue with gun crime, the problem for us is it's carried out by the US govt !
http://truth-out.org/news/item ... cret-war-in-134-countries

It really would be great if Americans could actually wake up, as it is, they just get upset every time people point out THEIR govt's actions.
#27 - th84
Quote from ATC Quicksilver :I like the USA, I've probably visited more states than most Americans have. I had my tongue firmly in my cheek when making that comment. Your government does have some serious issues to sort out though, the statistics speak for themselves...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L ... irearm-related_death_rate

...granted it's Wikipedia, so you can hardly trust it, but the USA and the Americas have a problem with gun crime. As much as you guys will probably hate to admit it, you need to be more like the Canadians.

I didn't bother to click the link. I'll be the first to admit that our gun control laws or lack of is a major problem (one of many) and my voting habits reflect that.

However, just like I said... I'm pretty outspoken against religion and the shitstorms it causes. With that said, you can bet your ass you'll never catch me in church.

Quote from Racer X NZ :It really would be great if Americans could actually wake up, as it is, they just get upset every time people point out THEIR govt's actions

Actually, I don't get upset at all. I think it's rather funny that people such as yourself act like Americans don't know that our government is a bunch of douche bags that are only involved in government for personal gain.

Maybe some of your greatness will rub off. Wishful thinking, maybe.


Also, this thread and the thread starter is retarded. Just my humble opinion, of course.
I am available for worshipping, all donations are tax deductable.

So, if you realise what your govt is doing, why are they doing it ?


It's not exactly difficult to see, if a complete idiot like me can see it plainly, why don't those of you, who are clearly more intelligent than myself, see it and do something about it ?



Could this be a reason for gun control in the US ?



Didn't you guy's get this to learn at school ?

And you wonder why I claim your asleep !

Perhaps Americans could try to understand what Monty Python meant with this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI

Or, perhaps even that is too advanced for them..........

I would have posted the video of Blackadder teaching Baldrick math here, as that may well be more understandable. However, due to copyright, that would lead to the downfall of western civilization. so here's the script, I'm assuming a basic reading level here, please provide your own voice effects.......
http://www.suslik.org/Humour/FilmOrTV/BlackAdder/ba2-2.html

Of course, there is always the possibility that by the fact it's censored, it may well contain information that the unwashed masses ( like Baldrick ) are not permitted to know........
Quote from th84 :I didn't bother to click the link. I'll be the first to admit that our gun control laws or lack of is a major problem (one of many) and my voting habits reflect that.

However, just like I said... I'm pretty outspoken against religion and the shitstorms it causes. With that said, you can bet your ass you'll never catch me in church.



Actually, I don't get upset at all. I think it's rather funny that people such as yourself act like Americans don't know that our government is a bunch of douche bags that are only involved in government for personal gain.

Maybe some of your greatness will rub off. Wishful thinking, maybe.


Also, this thread and the thread starter is retarded. Just my humble opinion, of course.

"Also, this thread and the thread starter is retarded. Just my humble opinion, of course."

Awwww... Give the guy a break. Why it's mighty hard bein up there in the 51st state, clubbing seals all day, coming home to having to keep moving the router so it doesn't melt the roof and fry the computer - AGAIN...
I mean really. Look where he's at. BC
That's right smack in between Alaska and the lower 48. Her's kinda like a turd stuck in the ass crack of the most advanced empire in the history of mankind. So can you really blame him for being bitter? Think of what that can do to a person's self esteem.
Either that. Or he's just pissed off that we don't give him a dollar a day like we do all the other third world kids.
Quote from Racer Y :"Also, this thread and the thread starter is retarded. Just my humble opinion, of course."

Awwww... Give the guy a break. Why it's mighty hard bein up there in the 51st state, clubbing seals all day, coming home to having to keep moving the router so it doesn't melt the roof and fry the computer - AGAIN...
I mean really. Look where he's at. BC
That's right smack in between Alaska and the lower 48. Her's kinda like a turd stuck in the ass crack of the most advanced empire in the history of mankind. So can you really blame him for being bitter? Think of what that can do to a person's self esteem.
Either that. Or he's just pissed off that we don't give him a dollar a day like we do all the other third world kids.



Here's some free education, as it's quite obvious that education isn't provided in USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

Now you might be able to only seem like a gun-loving nut. Instead of an ignorant gun-loving nut.

Maybe we need to provide all our information on little overlays over images of war. So a B-14 with an overlay "Canada is in fact its own country."

Or pictures. Americans love the pictures. Especially with patriotic symbols like flags, eagles and fighter jets. Oh, can't forget those patriotic guns too. Maybe a Desert Eagle as it combines their favourite things of eagles and guns and war.
Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Here's some free education, as it's quite obvious that education isn't provided in USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

Now you might be able to only seem like a gun-loving nut. Instead of an ignorant gun-loving nut.


Ehhh... Just more propaganda from the Canadian Separatist Movement.
You know they put subliminal messages in Rush Songs.

We have all sorts of education here. Why what jobs used to only require a kindergarten education twenty years ago now require a B.A. or Masters
We have all sorts of free education too. Actually the best in the world - we get that statistic thanks to the number of people defaulting on their college loans. The loans they took out to get a degree to get the exact same job that only required a kindergarten level education twenty years ago. too bad when they increased the education requirement for those jobs, they didn't increase the pay scale.
Sorry mate, but whooosh......

Yes, oddly enough, the point your making is the point we are making.

Do try actually reading the post's, we all know that most American's are great people who are being screwed, the point we are making is we are being screwed by the same groups, the difference is, we don't get to change their power and control over your gun toting army. YOU DO, if you'd realize that you do.
Quote from Racer Y :Ehhh... Just more propaganda from the Canadian Separatist Movement.
You know they put subliminal messages in Rush Songs.

Well, I guess they lie. Canadian weed isn't the best. Whatever the **** you're smoking must be some primo shit for the crazy indicated in your posts.
Quote from Racer X NZ :Sorry mate, but whooosh......

Yes, oddly enough, the point your making is the point we are making.

Do try actually reading the post's, we all know that most American's are great people who are being screwed, the point we are making is we are being screwed by the same groups, the difference is, we don't get to change their power and control over your gun toting army. YOU DO, if you'd realize that you do.

And you call yourself an expert on America.
"the difference is, we don't get to change their power and control over your gun toting army. YOU DO, if you'd realize that you do."

LOL ROFL LMAO!!!!! No we don't. In fact, foreign powers have more control over our Government than we do.
Ask Israel and China.

It's like this. A candidate raised 40 million to get elected for a four year position that only pays 150k a year. Now who controls that politician?
The good people of the US of A that were dumb enough to vote for him? Or the people he owes 40 million to?
The most effectual means of preventing [the perversion of power into tyranny are] to illuminate, as far as practicable, the minds of the people at large, and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts which history exhibits, that possessed thereby of the experience of other ages and countries, they may be enabled to know ambition under all its shapes, and prompt to exert their natural powers to defeat its purposes.
Thomas Jefferson: Diffusion of Knowledge Bill, 1779. FE 2:221, Papers 2:526

I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of Constitutional power.
Thomas Jefferson: to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:278

If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
Samuel Adams

Even your "founding fathers" made it clear who's responsibility it is to ensure your country operated as it's supposed to.
Clearly Racer X NZ lacks the intelligence to understand what the terms interest groups, special interests, and resource bias mean. The average American can't do jack shit. Interest groups control the mass media with their funding. They can control what their targets listen to and everyone knows visual trumps textual, vocal, and FACTUAL information. As long as you put some pictures on the screen that move people they will believe whatever you ****ing say.

Interests groups also have the advantage of being able to directly lobby congress and that increasingly limits the power of the people to control policy making. Furthermore policy-making is dictated by the congressmen and not their constituency because lord knows that a congressman can never make all of their constituency happy, so all they care about is making the plurality happy.

So. What can we do? Well, obviously the political structure we have allows for us to vote the rascals out. But after what? 4, 6 years. Yeah that's a long time now. Remember that back when all of this was put together four years was a decent amount of time. It took letters 3 months to go across the country and they had to walk hill in snow BOTH ways to school. So, in four years today a president/congressman can do a lot more damage than they once could.

Also, today the resource bias for the majority of Americans (those living in cities mostly and in ghettoes) only really have two resources.
1) their vote
and 2) the ability to campaign

that being said both of those take time, and time is the most valuable resource out their. Rich people have the advantage in they have expendable amount of time and also the money to support a campaign.

That being said, the less wealthy can do nothing. You cannot blame Americans that our government is messed up, you can only blame the people who influence those policies and candidates decisions.

In this case, we should just blame britain because if they weren't utter bellends and just took the tax off of tea we wouldn't have needed to make a different nation anyways.

Thank you!
Quote from Bmxtwins :Clearly Racer X NZ** lacks the intelligence to understand what the terms interest groups, special interests, and resource bias mean. The average American can't do jack shit. Interest groups control the mass media with their funding. They can control what their targets listen to and everyone knows visual trumps textual, vocal, and FACTUAL information. As long as you put some pictures on the screen that move people they will believe whatever you ****ing say.

Interests groups also have the advantage of being able to directly lobby congress and that increasingly limits the power of the people to control policy making. Furthermore policy-making is dictated by the congressmen and not their constituency because lord knows that a congressman can never make all of their constituency happy, so all they care about is making the plurality happy.

So. What can we do? Well, obviously the political structure we have allows for us to vote the rascals out. But after what? 4, 6 years. Yeah that's a long time now. Remember that back when all of this was put together four years was a decent amount of time. It took letters 3 months to go across the country and they had to walk hill in snow BOTH ways to school. So, in four years today a president/congressman can do a lot more damage than they once could.

Also, today the resource bias for the majority of Americans (those living in cities mostly and in ghettoes) only really have two resources.
1) their vote
and 2) the ability to campaign

that being said both of those take time, and time is the most valuable resource out their. Rich people have the advantage in they have expendable amount of time and also the money to support a campaign.

That being said, the less wealthy can do nothing. You cannot blame Americans that our government is messed up, you can only blame the people who influence those policies and candidates decisions.

In this case, we should just blame britain because if they weren't utter bellends and just took the tax off of tea we wouldn't have needed to make a different nation anyways.

Thank you!

You're from Connecticut? Damn. Your state is as hard to spell as Massachusetts and Nova Scotia!
I've been to that casino there. Foxwood. New England has some of the prettiest country I've ever seen.

You really shouldn't be so hard on Racer X**. LOL get past all the conspiracy theory stuff and he's more American than you, me and Dawes* put together.
He sees the ideas that built this country. He realizes how we, as a people see things and what we truly believe in. Even Dawes. He sees how the country is screwing up. He's just as upset about things, if not more than we are. I don't know why he doesn't realize that to most Americans, he's just pointing out the obvious. (huh dawes?*)
There's a saying (wait... getting another beer.. OK three - Mexican - Modelo rules! Hey. I'm part beaner. Get over it.
¡Viva Mejico! ¡¡¡¡Arribba!!!!¡ ¡Su penche ojetes!***) Now I got a buzz and forgot the saying.
Skip it. It doesn't matter.
That being said, the less wealthy can do nothing.
Remember what I said in that post Racer X about differnet people fighting different people for different reasons?
If you read BMX's post You'll notice BMX leans towards class warfare.
Oh yeah... The saying...
You can't fight city hall.
Yeah. BMXer is spot on about a lot of things...
Remember what I said in that post Racer X about differnet people fighting different people for different reasons?
Even though I agree with sorta almost with everything he posted, my "personalized radicalization" is a bit different.
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I could care less how much money someone has or doesn't have. I have been fortunate enough to have actually interacted with almost the the whole socioeconomic cross section of this country. All that interaction made me think more along ideological lines.
My opinion is a lot of poor people think like rich people and a lot of rich people think like poor people.
BMX, Th84 and I see the big machine our government evolved into. We all see where it's headed. We also realize that we're the low man on a real big totem pole. We're just as powerless as the guys hanging out in the Home Depot Parking Lot (Have you done that dawes?). For such an Ameriphile, I'd figure you'd know all this about us

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This part:
"That being said, the less wealthy can do nothing. You cannot blame Americans that our government is messed up, you can only blame the people who influence those policies and candidates decisions."

Actually, you can cousin.
No matter what we whine or complain about - either the left or the right wingers (ok you eurotypes - we're ALL right wingers in the US of A - happy now?)
at the end of the day we'll go to the ballot booths and click off what ever the party of D's or R's tells us too.

* At Dawesdust: All kidding aside, I have nothing but respect and admiration for you Canadians. While RacerX waxes on about the USA and out foundiing values and virtues, there are things y'all do especially with healthcare that the reat of the planet ought to be looking at for inspration. I also seen April Wine and Triumph in concert!
In fact, Canada is my third favorite country. Sorry, but TEXAS is the greatest country in the world.

**At Racer X
It's nice that you admire our original prinicples. It'd bve nice if everyone did and everyone acted like those principles. I know a bunch of Aussies. My wife's been over there twice. One of their criticisms about you kiwis is something I really like. That's y'all's informal, almost casual approach to national government. LOL almost straight out of an old Henry Fonda Movie.


*** At Scawen
"¡¡¡¡Arribba!!!!¡" has NOTHING to do with Arabia, Ameraic Peoples or the religion of Islam. Please don't ban me - you Limey &*^%^!!!!!
Probably would've been easier to just copy my term paper from politics. Then it would've at least been as lengthy as the string of bs that comes out of racer x.
Quote :Bmxtwins
No longer welcome

All I have to say to America today, or to Texas specifically:

(To quote a great man)

He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

Friedrich Nietzsche
Quote from Blas89 :All I have to say to America today, or to Texas specifically:

(To quote a great man)

He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

Friedrich Nietzsche

Nice quote. But being from Texas, I'm sorry your quote comes a bit late.
I've been warning people for decades that the drug war our government created
was going to create conditions like that. And we're getting it here. We don't have the headless bodies hanging from overpasses yet, but it's coming.
After the fact that the DEA is in league with the sinaloa cartel sets in with guys like the Zetas, in their eyes the DEA will just be another player. All the restraint they've held on this side of the border is going to go away.
Quote from Racer Y :Nice quote. But being from Texas, I'm sorry your quote comes a bit late.
I've been warning people for decades that the drug war our government created
was going to create conditions like that. And we're getting it here. We don't have the headless bodies hanging from overpasses yet, but it's coming.
After the fact that the DEA is in league with the sinaloa cartel sets in with guys like the Zetas, in their eyes the DEA will just be another player. All the restraint they've held on this side of the border is going to go away.

I hope you don't get it as harsh as we've seen here, those Zetas guys are cruel.


Fun fact: I'm from Sinaloa, I lived there for 15 years and I never saw any conflict or kill on the streets or anything in my entire time there, 9 years ago my family and I came to Guadalajara which was a "safer" place and hell broke free with the bad boys, I guess you're never safe
Quote from Blas89 :I hope you don't get it as harsh as we've seen here, those Zetas guys are cruel.


Fun fact: I'm from Sinaloa, I lived there for 15 years and I never saw any conflict or kill on the streets or anything in my entire time there, 9 years ago my family and I came to Guadalajara which was a "safer" place and hell broke free with the bad boys, I guess you're never safe

Like I've said before, we Loved Nuevo Laredo. We were actually looking into moving there and working in Laredo, Then 911 happened and then the cartels...
But there have been I dunno 5 or 10 murders related to Mexican cartel business in my neighborhood over the last five years. A couple of years ago, on the other side of Houston form me some zetas tried to ambush a drug sting being conducted by the Harris County Sheriffs and DEA. They were having an informant carry a load of weed in an 18 wheeler to try and bust some buyer. The cartel got wind of the deal, but didn't know it was a sting operation. They ambushed the truck in traffic. It looked like something you'd see in a news broadcast from Juarez. Or a Shwartzenager movie.
Around ten years ago, the cartels had a safe house for illegals a couple of blocks from my house. one afternoon I heard what best could be described as giant zippers. What that sound really was was machine guns from local gangsters (tango blast?) shooting up the house because the cartels guys wouldn't pay them off. No one got killed or even shot as far as I know, but it shut that house down.
That happened in broad daylight on a summer day with kids out playing every where about a quarter mile from a police department and that story didn't make the news! There wasn't any sirens or cops for about 15 minutes afterwards either.
Like I said, it's happening here, just not as extreme - yet.
Well, if I was a cop getting that call I'd take my time finishing my doughnut before responding too.......

"With luck they'll have finished by the time I get there !"

This is an interesting report showing just how involved the US govt is in supporting the cartels.
https://decryptedmatrix.com/li ... s-and-fueling-cartel-war/
"And a separate report late last month based on allegations by CIA and DEA insider Phil Jordan is even more explosive. He is claiming that the Obama administration was selling Los Zetas military-grade weaponry through a front company set up in Mexico.
“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” former CIA pilot Robert “Tosh” Plumlee, who supported Jordan’s claims, told the El Paso Times."

Been a 'conspiracy theory' for years, yet another one proved correct unfortunatily.
Quote from Racer X NZ :Well, if I was a cop getting that call I'd take my time finishing my doughnut before responding too.......

"With luck they'll have finished by the time I get there !"

This is an interesting report showing just how involved the US govt is in supporting the cartels.
https://decryptedmatrix.com/li ... s-and-fueling-cartel-war/
"And a separate report late last month based on allegations by CIA and DEA insider Phil Jordan is even more explosive. He is claiming that the Obama administration was selling Los Zetas military-grade weaponry through a front company set up in Mexico.
“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” former CIA pilot Robert “Tosh” Plumlee, who supported Jordan’s claims, told the El Paso Times."

Been a 'conspiracy theory' for years, yet another one proved correct unfortunatily.

You ever read a comic book? Like Superman? or Spider man or something?
People like Guzman? they're not just some rich gangster. A 21st century Al Capone. No they're more like the real world version of Lex Luthor.
Think of the pull Bill gates has. Google has. The Saudis have. Now give that juice to a socio-pathic hill billy. If you were a multi-billionaire super criminal and you wanted to do something, do you really think something like federal agencies and drug policies apply to you? If relatively small-time local thugs from Nuevo Leon and Tampalugas can buy whole Sheriff's departments in south Texas, what do think he can do?
You know Blas. You know what MY complaint about Mexico really is? You seen those boots? If you've seen them, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
And Norteno music. Why do they all dress alike? I grew up with tejano music blaring in the background some where. Somebody's parents was either playing that or Country and Western. Divorced parents played disco. As kids, we hated it. So all us kids all grew up metal heads.

Yay america!
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