The goods and the bads in both games IMHO:

LFS:
+ Multiplayer, best netcode around for a racesim
+ Force Feedback, I can feel when the car will break out (using Black MOMO)
+ Wide range of cars (GT, Openwheel....)
+ Downloadable skins ingame, every user has his own space etc...
+ Very nice Community
+ Great feedback from the Devs

- No real life tracks, sorry, but this is a big minus for me . The tracks provided are very muck OK, but I really want to drive on real tracks
- LFS is using too much CPU power IMO


Rfactor:
+ Slightly better GFX engine, LFS is using too much CPU power instead of using more GFX card power
+ Wide range of good mods
+ " " good (real life) tracks

- Handling, FFB, I loose the cars too quick, I cannot feel when I will loose the car
- Not enough servers

Plz post a mirror to download.
I've already tried 15 times to download the Highres version, but download stops at 15%, another download on 78% etc....

And I'm not behind a firewall, can download other files from this (and other) forums/sites.

How about to get a life

I'm at work so I have an alibi

I'll download the patch tommorow anyway.
The servers will not be able to give the leechers enough bandwidth

The FIA killed/kills the F1 with all their regulations:

Traction Control => even a 16-year old kid without big skills can drive a F1 car.

You may not 'fight' on track, only 1 time you may change your racingline when someone's trying to pass. When they pass each other AND touch a single bit the other car causing one of the drivers to be out of the race => 'Race control is investigating the incident between car nr X and X'
Come on! These are simple race accidents! Offcourse they're not willing to overtake anymore so you loose your position, points and maybe a penalty (something like 10 places back in next race startgrid).

We want to see skilled drivers, taking some risks while overtaking WITHOUT drivers get badly hurt/killed. That's what real racing fans like!
Remember the big fight on track in the 70's (???) between Villeneuve and Rene Arnoux. Real racing, BIG clean fight taking 3-4 laps, nobody's hurt, adrenaline everywhere! For the ones who don't know what I'm talking about, search the internet for the movie, you'll love it.

Some guys are already celebrating the new patch...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1103093891548277809

Quote from GameQB :

i think today would be a nice day to post my first message

Congrats for loosing your virginity!

Did it hurt?

On this rate, this thread will have 100+ pages at the end of the day illepall
With their daily 'teasing' updates, the devs woke up the community of LFS.
Problem is....the community won't go to sleep again until a new update is posted

I guess they will release some screenshots of a new track layout and maybe a new car.
Also a large progress report will be posted.

Quote from Jakg :

i think he means he deleted the validation email for something

Vote +1

If so, It's not the end of the world Hanczur.
Plz specify with more detail what you mean plz

I'm also hoping/waiting there will be more AI's in a LAN race someday.
Offcourse LFS is meant to play online, but when playing with some friends on a private network, it's nice to have some other 'competition' also

Quote from tristancliffe :

Hard doesn't mean unplayable. If you want the bug fixed, buy a wheel, cos the bug is your choice of controller

Wheels ARE lovely you know, and not that expensive...

It's in fact my brother who is playing with the joystick, I'm using MOMO Racing wheel on my pc

And yes, it's a 'bit' unplayable:
The slider is now used as a combined axis (slider up=throttle, down=brake), but braking is very difficult to control.
It's a bug, because you can map the slider AND the button at the same time, only the button is not reacting ingame

Devs,

It would be very nice to get this fixed, now this game is unplayable.
So:
Throttle/Brake are assigned as seperate axis
Slider = Throttle => working in control menu and ingame
Button = Brake => Lights up in the controls menu when assigned to brake, but ingame it isn't working.

Thx

Last edited by Vultureke, Wed 16 Nov 2005, 08:32.

24 now, 25 in February.

Damn, didn't know there were so few youngsters playing LFS

AMD64 4400+ X2 (Dual Core)
1 GB 400mhz DDR CAS2
MSI 7800GT 256MB
250GB Maxtor SATA
Soundblaster Audigy 2

LFS (All settings high, AF & AA on max) - Lowest fps: 74 - Highest fps: 214 - Average: when playing online around 80 - 120.
CSS: Will do videotest later

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Last edited by Vultureke, Wed 26 Oct 2005, 14:26.

I'm using a MS Sidewinder Joystick to play LFS.
'Seperate axes' are enabled for Throttle/Brake.
Slider is assigned as Throttle, using one axis, and a button is assigned for braking.
Slider is working ingame (=green bar is shown when moving slider up-down), but when pushing the button, the brake bar (=red bar) is not showing and so the car is not braking.
When assigning the brake-button and pushing it in the options-screen it seems ok, but ingame it's not working.

Could it be fixed plz?

Hi,

I already posted this question in 'Technical Assistance', but here it has more chance to be picked up (and maybe added into LFS ):

My brother is using a MS Sidewinder Joystick in LFS but has one serious problem.
He wants to use at the same time:
1. The slider ONLY for throttle (so no combined axis with throttle & brake)
2. A button for braking

Now the slider is acting as a combined axis (throttle & brake) and at the same time no button can be mapped as braking => No late/hard braking possible.
When the buttons are mapped as throttle & brake, the slider is not active anymore => button mapped as throttle => Unable to handle the Formula-cars (and others).

E.g. the Nascar-series from Papyrus provide this use of controls.

Is it possible to add someday in LFS plz?

AMD 4400+ X2 (Dual Core)
1GB DDR400 CORSAIR Twinx PC3200 CAS2
250GB Harddisk
MSI 7800GT
Audigy 2
BenQ LCD 19" 937S+
Logitech Momo Racing Wheel

And

AMD 1800XP
768MB DDR266
300GB Harddisk
Creative GeForce3Ti200
Soundblaster Live
Philips 17" CRT
MS Sidewinder Joystick

Quote from Tweaker :

Just have lots of people join your server and add 2 AI each plus themselves (or if they don't want to race, have them add all 3!) :cool:

Only workaround I know of, hehe.

People may join, but its a LAN game between me and my brother, you see
Like in Nascar 2003, there is no problem adding lots of AI players in a LAN game.

Quote from marsden1002 :

im totally unsure then. Thats the only thing i can think off.

Sorry :S

np

Quote from marsden1002 :

righty,

Have you gone onto "Show NON square modes??

Other than that - as im unsure, maybe LFS cant support 1600 X 1200??

How much ure pc cost BTW

Yep, I've choosen non square modes, but 1600X1200 is still gone
1600x1200 is available on the other pc.

My pc costed +1500euros, all new (including HD, mouse and keyboard).
It's much, too much, but I'm not someone who upgrades some parts every year or so

Last thread I open tonight hehe.

My brother wants to play LFS with a MS Sidewinder joystick.
The mapping of the keys is horrible for him:
He wants to use the "slider" for throttle and a button for braking, but it can't be selected.
The slider is now used as a combined throttle/brake pedal, but it's impossible to brake late. Is there a way to solve this? So, using a button for brake, and the slider as a single non-combined axis for throttle.

Thx in advance,

Vulture

Quote from marsden1002 :

The screen may be limiting the res. My 17" TFT can only do a MAX of 1280 X 1024, and i know most 19" TFT's can only do 1280 X 1024.

Check the MAX resolution of the monitor, and is the dual core fast???

CHeers

LCD => Benq 937S+
I'm playing e.g. SWAT4 in 1600*1200 and no problems.
Dual core is WOW Playing in that 1152*(nr) resolution, all detail on, FSAA & AA on max and getting 150-200fps in some places.

Hi,

When playing on a LAN, there are only 2 AI players per real player you can add.
Is there a workaround to set a higher number like in Singleplayer modus (max 12 AI players)?

Greetz,

Vulture