Quote from chavm481 :

should i buy 7 when it comes?

If it's good and you don't want to get into trouble with M$ or the law: Yes

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

All right, a torrent will probably be quicker anyway, thanks

Just remember warez is when you download a product for free that should be paid for

As this is a free beta you are doing nothing wrong imo

There's a few proper Torrent's about of it (Be careful though as there are a few dogy one's too, check rating's etc).

It isn't illegal anyway as it's a free public beta in the first place

Just it's being "spread around" in another way.

And yes your key will work fine.

Got my download + 64bit key

Now all i need is another Sata hard drive to install Window's 7 on

Public Beta Released: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

Good luck getting it at the moment though, the server is majorly overloaded!

Epic

Hmmm i take it this guy has no job! :P

Quote from RaceUK :

GAM770-DS3. Same Motherboard as me

Good Motherboard

Quote from BAMBO :

Well that sounds pretty interesting, although I was thinking about buying rFactor just for the hydroplane mod where obviously, no tires are needed.


I'm now finding myself a bit in a dilemma, should I buy netKar PRO or rFactor? Hmm....

netKar Pro

Wait for rFactor 2

Quote from BAMBO :

Well IMO it's better in a way then rFactor's physics.

I mean in rFactor you get that feeling that no car other then the F1 has a rear anti roll bar and every time you over do it, it's impossible to retake control while in Evolution the problem is a bit solved.

I think simbin did a pretty good job with Race07 & GTR Evolution

I read somewhere that ISI are doing a major overhaul of the physic's and are working on a completly new tyre model for rFactor 2

Quote from anbiddulph :

only thing is i think my CPU is overheating, as it freezes every now and then. I have changed the BIOS to make the CPU and case fan run 100% all the time. Is this a good idea to do this untill i can afford a new cpu cooler?

The best thing to do is set the fan's to auto if you can?

That way the bios increases the fan speed when it starts getting pretty hot and lower's it when the temprature fall's.

That should be fine unless you have overclocked on a stock fan?

GTR Evolution look's pretty damn good with everything maxed out and some AA/AF.

Ok it lack's in the physic's department, but it look's the part imo :P

Went to buy this today only to find it has to be a credit card :/

Only credit card in the house is my mum's and it's bloody expired.

Quote from Gil07 :

Those look like cartoons, how can you say that looks good? :/

LFS doesn't have that good graphics, but surely it looks better than that?

I think it's because the image was shrunk down so much

Quote from floodan :

I didnt mind to dl any mods or anything for my demo and rFactor looked ugly damn pure ugly
lfs with high-res things looks awesome imo ful AA/AF damn lfs looks good..

if you lought you fail imo!
Ha on u

Lol ok mate.

You only had the demo, so you can't exactly give a full opinion can you if you haven't even purchased it and downloaded any mod's, track's etc.

So i think the HA is on you.

Quote from BAMBO :

Don't start it, please!

Lol im not starting anything

Just hate it when people bash everything other than LFS - for me every sim has it's good point's and it's bad point's

Edit: On My Machine with CTDP F1 2006 and their Bahrain track rFactor look's amazing.

Everything maxed apart from shadow's with 4x AA and 8x AF.

Last edited by mclarenmatt, Wed 31 Dec 2008, 21:00.

Quote from floodan :

LFS looks mutch more better that Rfactor imo!

Don't make me laugh.

Quote from BigPeBe :

Athlon X2 4400+ @ 2.425 GHz (:razz and 2 gigs of DDR2 800 @ 402.6 MHz (:razz.

I'm maybe going for just Athlon X2 6000+, because of the good price/performance value I think and no more cores for me yet, because it's quite rare to be able to use the all performance of 4 cores.

Doesn't GTA use all four core's though?

Quote from BigPeBe :

Ahh I love my new toy.

PNY 9800GTX+

GTA IV runs now a lot better, tho yet it could be better. I think I need better processor...

A bit OT but the most big effect between my old 8600GT OC and this seems to be with Crysis, with old card I was just able to play it with low settings without AA, but now I have everything on Very High (DX10 hack FTW) and 1280x1024 with 2xAA and 8xAF and it is nicely playable, no mouse lag or anything.

Just out of interest what Processor do you have?

I currently have a Athlon X2 @3.0GHZ with 4GB of 800MHZ Ram and a Radeon 4870 512MB.

I wanna get GTA for the PC (Loved it on the 360) but i might wait till i grab a Quad Phenom and some slightly faster Ram before i get it. Maybe wait for another patch or two as well

Quote from The Moose :

lolled at, and reported

No wonder no one ever noticed that in testing. Who on earth would think of running that car with no ARB? You were really thinking out of the box with that one.

Seem's no matter how much testing we do people alway's manage to find problem's

Quote from tristancliffe :

It's called a monoshock - the 'roll bar' does not work like a conventional bar.

On a normal torsion bar, when one wheel goes up the other one tries to go up (because the bar doesn't want to twist). But with a shuttle type monoshock when one wheel goes up, the other goes down. So, in some ways the monoshock is pro-roll but with a roll stiffness. Get rid of the roll stiffness (which ranges from about 1500N/mm to 21500N/mm in real life) and you would get something silly. Of course, the real monoshock runs out of travel after about 10mm of lateral movement...

Sadly, it seems as though the simulation of that system is incomplete - the limits aren't enforced at all, and the units are just so far out it's unbelievable. Setups in LFS are a bit silly (and the monoshock of the FBM isn't even attempted. Yet), but at least correspond to real life values - see Bob's setup program. But in nKP there are units whole factors of ten out, or meaningless figures (ride height)...

Is the Target based on the '05 Dallara? I'll try and get hold of a manual for it. Someone can then forward it to Kunos, and I'll be happy to explain to him what it means and how it's supposed to work.

That sound's like a good idea

Maybe it could come in the next version or more likely in V2.

Quote from rc10racer :

Thing what is bottlenecking your system badly is that cpu, should of gone for a 4850 and got the new AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 7750+ for £68 (newer generation plus overclocks more aswell).

I know it's causing a slight bottle neck but it's nothing major.

Only in the Multicore effecient game's will it show up - although Crysis Warhead and Far Cry 2 run really well

I plan on getting a Quad Phenom at some point anyway and maybe some 1066MHZ Ram (Another 4GB kit) and i will shove my 4GB 800MHZ Ram in my Sister's PC which only has 1GB on Vista

Quote from The Moose :

Maybe you could try explaining what exactly is wrong with the gearbox simulation with the engine running?

+1

I don't see anything major and i don't even think it was brought up in any of the beta testing which say's alot ay Moose

There was plenty of bug's found and fixed.

Quote from The Moose :

Just ignore him. He's gained troll status.

If you fancy Ftarget at spa matt, check the Beta forum for the pw

Will check it out mate

Edit:// Server seem's to have gone.

Last edited by mclarenmatt, Sat 27 Dec 2008, 21:55.

Quote from Shotglass :

alright so the game is still not bad
the demo servers are utter hell but the netcode works fine and i didnt notice any framedrops with ~10 cars in front of me
the defualt setup is nasty but i get by

unfortunately the whole thing is let down by the woeful gearbox simulation which is still active even with the engine off and useless when the engine is running... almost bad enough to make me put it down and forget about it for another 2 years (ie until 1.04 is out)

Blah blah...

It seem's you want NKP to fail whatever so what was the point in you trying the demo?