all previous examples were wrong what about this one, do you think what im trying to do is posible, i think so:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/float.jpg

well ive been thinking all day and i realize using fluid to cause a righting arm is not a good idea

the thing is that i was recalling having built a balnce with a very strong righting arm and finally remembered, and whats great i tested it and it tends strongly to verticality

now i can buy 5 euros umbrellas and selling them for 20 euros modified as magic umbrellas

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...id/balance.jpg

yes but the cog gains altitude as it goes away from the base

its absolutly imposible that gravity raises the cog

i know what you mean so you must know meachanics then you should know is not posible for gravity to raise a cog, and when it leans cog is raised and gravity fights to lower the cog

it would be the weight of pen or umbrella going down to the liquid tending to go down as well which pulls it vertical

they oppose each other so if the umbrella is heavy youd need a lot of water, you could hide a whole liter at the point underneath the fabric

actually the x and + have identical cog, ive just realized, but the idea is sounded and posible check out this example

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/righting.jpg

humm might be more usefull for pens thanks to you i think i finally got it right, at least posible

thanks to you ive just invented the 1st liquid gimball

Last edited by lerts, Tue 29 Jul 2008, 15:10.

i said i was wrong it will go from + to x

because the center of gravity of water is lower in x shape than i +

and everithing tends to take the cog down which in this case is the umbrella vertical with x filled with water

the force that keeps the umbrella straight is gravity

Last edited by lerts, Tue 29 Jul 2008, 03:22.

yes but i think my umbrella is cooler, you stop to light a cigarete with both hands and leave the umbrella on the ground which will remain vertical by itself to the amazement of everybody

now i know for sure im building them and selling them, i want a g25, at 20 euros i must sell 15

im sorry guys i was not listening the system will tend to makes an x when in + posittion

the center of gravity of the liquid when + with one meter long arm has an altitude of 0.875, and when x of o.525

so obviously it will go from + to x and resist to go from x to +

but my idea still works you just have to made the umbella like this:

<---X--

force of gravity will keep the umbrella horizontal because its the lowest the center of gravity can be

i think that for a light umbrella a quarter of liter of water would be enough

from verticality to45º the level rises and gravity fights that keeping verticality, from 45º to 90º the level will start lowering

so as long as you lean it 45º it will tend to verticality, farther than 45º and it will fall down

you know so many people not seeing what for me is obvious makes me wonder if im actually im smarter than i think

i said why it does work: because liquids ten to ocupy the lowest posible level that is with the cross vertical, now why should it no work?

yes but nobody admitting somethin so obvious works makes me question it myself

the level of water lowers putting vertical the umbrella, potential energy is spent putting the umbrella vertical which is the state of lower potential energy

yes i know that if you aply momentums seem that it falls down, but things must be analized with phisics laws not what it seems like

if you think the cross will fall because the momentum is bigger in the right you must believe as well my link to that perpetuum mobil works

hell im disapointed i did something important, i might be the 1st to invent this and almost evrybody laughs at me

well for those little who care:

gravity only causes motion when potential energy is spend, when the mass lowers its position


rain doesnt go up, liquids tend to take the lowest position thats posible and it no matters how you trick it, it always will do that

notice in this failed perpetuum mobile how since no potential energy is spent it cant move, gravity only moves masses by spending potential energy or losing altitude so this doesnt work because no potentila energy is spent

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v= ... DeZCM&feature=related

in my idea the leaned 3d cross is put vertical by the water lowering position, its leaned and then it spends potential energy of water and it gets vertical

come on anybody with basic phisics must know my idea is right

im not sure what a ginball is but my idea allows for any object to stay always vertical to the horizont however the postion

el nivel del agua esta mas alto cuando esta inclinado, en x, que cuando esta en vertical, en +, eso llenandolo de agua dejando solo vacio el hueco del brazo superior

y como es sabido los liquidos intentan conseguir el nivel mas bajo posible que es cuando esta vertical, en +, por eso aparece un brazo adrizante que lo lleva de la inclinacion a la verticalidad

oh come on im disapointed is it that nobody is gonna say its a good idea?

hell i might be the 1st person in recent human history who have thought of this

it hasnt been easy ive been working on this ideas for years

you dont understand the umbrella holds vertical on the ground by itself, with point down and the handle up

when you reach a place you never know what to do with the umbrella, with this you can leave it alone and it will stay vertical

you just need some tubes and water, is so cheap and easy to build im planning to start building them and selling them calling them magic umrellas, people wont have a clue how they work it will lok like magic

ill buy 5 euro umbrellas 50 cents in tubes and sell them for 20 euros

hell is it that nobody is gonna take my idea seriously, its quite easy to understand and i think is cool

im building one for my umbrella

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

That wouldn't work, the right side is heavier than the left, and would just fall over

if it leaned it would be free energy

it leans raising the fluid which is dropped from higher than before generating energy to fill another croos that leans to raise the fluid again generating more energy

if it leans as it would appear to be potential energy of water would increase without spending any energy and thats known as imposible

its a fact water tries to reach lowest posible level, this is quite undiscusible, and the lowest posible level its vertical

in fact its quite simple gravity cant have the effect of raisng a liquid to a higher level, gravity only pulls the water down

anyway if it works ive invented a cool thing, if it doesnt work,if it leans raising the level ive invented a free enrgy experiment because gravity would increase potential energy without nobody touching it

Last edited by lerts, Mon 28 Jul 2008, 22:57.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/cross.jpg

notice level with the cross leaned is higher than with the cross vertical and liquids tend to take the lowest level posible, so theres a force that puts the thing vertical

plz forgive me for sppaming but check out this great idea to make an umbrella a pen or a stick remain vertical without being touched

in the future ill try to post less but i just have thought of this and really need to share it

i want no money for it, seeing it on the stores in the future will be plenty of gratification:

imagine a hollow cross that has 4 horizontal arms, 1 top arm and a bottom arm

you have the cross vertical and fill it till only the top arm is empty with mercury

the lowest level the mercury can have is when the cross is vertical, if it leans the level will raise

this means the cross would have a force that when leaned puts it vertical because vertical is the lowest posible level of mercury

this could be connected to a pen or an umbrella to keep them vertical without being touched, do you think this is viable?


just imagine somebody passes by unholds his umbrella and it magically remains verticsl , wouldnt it be cool?

how do you raise 1000 tons today:

http://www.ancientmysteries.eu ... baalbek/MYSTERY%20UK.html

Quote from Dennis93 :

so for an raw example, you would say the attack in madrid is fake ?

oh thats mild suffering i dont see why he should have avoided that, im thinking of those news that really convince you theres no god

an example of fake would be a picture taken in spain that showed a dead inmigrant corpse on the beach and people sunbathing close by, seems much likely it was photoshoped

i see news media are intended to make us fear, i even recall a news from a paper saying the government asked private channells to show more horror movies

but my point is god and this reality arent posible at the same time unless god is a sadist

is it diane patrick or are imaginations of mine

i think if god really existed when someone tries to do something really bad he wont let him so the devil would fake horrible news pretending god is inexistent

so the only slight posiblity i conceive for god to exist is that all those horrible news are faked, could be though i never personally lived anithing that convinced me of the contrary, just hear tales from tv

but that would be denying reality wouldnt be? thats why im agnostic but as said in the case god exist certainly most news are faked

thanks guys i managed a way to put the wheel on the table

but the thing is that i drive without wheel compensation and the 36º of lock on the xrg with which i have a ultra sensible wheel control

i do so because i find it the only way for my logitech formula force feedback to tell me grip, if i use low sensitivities forece feedback is useless

is momo force feedback better than formula force?

i dont really know what enlightenement is, from a religious point of view youd remember all your past lifes and stop reincarnation cycle, though there are bodi sabats i think its spelled whos people who got enlightened but come back to cycle of reincarnation to help others free as well

i think its in switzerland where is located the CERN the biggest particle accelerator of the world, they were this summer to simulate an instant right after the bigbang, the experiment was due in june, i think we got away with creating a microblcak hole that would have killed this planet

in fact with a particle acellerator you can turn lead into gold, but is expensive since it requires so much energy, ive always liked alchemy, in fact i studied it quite much and their ultimate goal was not gold but to achieve what they called the knowledge which was some kind of enlightenment, saint germain or fulcaneli are supposed to have achieved this

i got to know a secret alchemical process that allows you to build a wormhole with house hold items but its extreamly dangerous, wont do it

these are the kinds of things make me think this world is faky

he is obviously faking to be dumb