StableX - from what I can see, the systems on meshcomputers.com all come with Vista. I don't really want to pay for that as I've already got a copy of ultimate. I'm struggling to find detailed info on the components as well such as the memory brand.

Jak - what do you think of this system, with the 4gb memory upgrade?

You are right to say that I should look around for a few hours. I have actually been doing this every now and then for several months - the trouble really is that I know very little about which components are worth getting. I've been looking at various benchmarks and comparisons this afternoon, and I think I've now got some idea of the relative performance of the latest mid-range ATI and nVidia cards, and the performance of Q6600 vs. E8400.

Oops, I totally didn't notice Jak's second post! Sorry about that, mate.

If you guys think it's a good system and a fair price I might just buy it. I don't have a lot of time to piss around because I've got some work to be doing in the next couple of weeks.

Is it likely to be worth my while looking around for better prices (and self-building)?

Edit: Any idea how quick OcUK are at getting their systems out? The system that Jak linked shows 10+ in stock.

Also, can anyone recommend a decent 2.1 speaker system? I'm not an audiophile looking to spend £1k on a bose or something.

Last edited by joshdifabio, Mon 13 Oct 2008, 13:43.

Quote from garph :

You don't stick anything to anything.

You put a layer of thermal paste onto the CPU then mount the heat sink. If you buy a retail CPU (one with a heat sink and fan) the heat sink would normally be pre-applied with thermal paste so you'd not have to worry about it.

Well I think you've highlighted the fact that I need some help .

I do see the benefits in building a system myself, which is why I've done that in the past. The main problem I have is that I don't actually know which components (brand and model) I should be getting! I don't know about the reliability and performance of the various video cards, CPUs etc. on offer, and in the past I don't think I've made the best decisions about what to go for.

Quote from Jakg :

First question - self build or pre-built?

Preferably pre-built, but if it's going to save me a good amount (£30+) I can probably deal with building it myself, as I've done so once or twice in the past. I've no experience when it comes to sticking heat sinks to the CPU and that sort of thing. If you're able to drive Jak (I think I'm near you), maybe I could pay you to assemble it?

Edit: Just noticed you're actually in Suffolk, that probably wouldn't be practical then.

Good afternoon!

I've been looking to replace my 5-6 year old system since it was a 3-4 year old system, and following the fan failure and resulting graphics card meltdown on Friday night I've decided that it's finally time to bite the bullet!

My budget is somewhere around the £700 mark, although I might be willing to spend up to £1,000 for a system that represents significantly better value.

I'm ideally looking for something which would make a decent gaming system - although I don't play a lot of games, so I'm not overly fussed about being able to play crysis on high settings etc.

I already have Vista, a monitor, keyboard & mouse but I could do with a new sound card and would like some 2.1 speakers to replace my current cheap, 10 year old crap-job.

Thanks in advance for any advice .

Quote from Becky Rose :

The same car that later crashed avoiding the spun Massa, choosing not to hit the red car and sacrificing his own race...

He didn't need to hit anything - he simply got distracted or didn't react quickly enough.

Good signing guys .

Quote from Bob Smith :

I like. Idea++;

Hooray for original suggestions, who'd have thought they were still possible?

++Idea; for greater efficiency? :P

+1 from me too.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Kimi's conditions were the closest to Hamilton's in Q2, and, well, they're 14th and 15th on the grid.

The current Ferrari is notoriously poor in the wet due to its easy treatment of the tyres.

Edit: Wtf, this is the Spa thread still!

Quote from JCTK :

the only consistent thing about the FIA is their inconsistency...

as far as I could remember only Nick Heidfield got a penalty for driving someone off the track (DC at Bahrain) since I started watching F1...

If they always allow that type of driving, surely that means that they're being consistent..?

Edit: Anyway, taking the line when another car has minimal overlap, such as with Kimi and Lewis, is acceptable and fair in F1. Kimi did not drive Lewis off the track - Lewis decided to try and stay beside Kimi, even though Kimi was clearly ahead and was obviously going to take a tight line through the second part of the chicane. This type of driving is seen at every GP, and imo, with these guys being the best drivers in the world, it's perfectly fine.

Last edited by joshdifabio, Mon 8 Sep 2008, 02:42.

Congrats Messy and the rest of the team .

Quote from Migz :

Bassicly i think we should have a new quote function.
Currently when we click the quote button it loads up the reply page. This is really annoying if you want to multi quote people, you then have to open multiple tabs for each quote and then copy&paste the quote's into one window.

What i think we should have is a quoting system like the http://gmc.yoyogames.com quoting system.
On there when you select the quote button it doesnt load a page, the button goes red and you can keep on reading the thread and if you want you can click on more quotes without loading a new page. Then when you click post it will have all the quotes that you selected.

I've attatched some screenies of what i mean.

1st screenie shows only one quote being selected (top one) and one quote not selected(bottom one)

2nd screenie shows two quotes selected (top and bottom one)

3rd screenie shows the reply screen after you select two quotes and hit the reply button.


Im sure this would be a useful function to alot of people.

Maybe I'm misreading your post, but doesn't this forum already have that feature? The small button with a '+' symbol, immediately to the right of the 'Quote' button is for multi-quoting.

Edit: Too slow!

Thanks for the compliments guys!

Quote from rc10racer :

Thought you recently got MarcG aswell?

Well he's been with us since November .

On Thursday, 21st July 2005, 'Team Speedo' made their first ever driver recruitment, and, in doing so, took the first step towards becoming a full-fledged team.

Three years on, the team, under it's revised name, is looking stronger than ever. As time has passed, our team has grown in number, and in-turn this ever strengthens us both on the track, and off. With this continuing growth and ongoing rejuvenation an important element to the success of our team, what better way to celebrate our anniversary than to announce some new signings! We would like to welcome Patrick "Paddi4" Schülter, Martin "Ghost_CZ" Šilhánek and Chris "K.Dingeling" Hofbauer to the team!

From all the team; thanks to all of you for making this community what it is, and here's to another 3 years!

PS. This announcement is a bit late - there were a few things which we needed to finalize before posting it .

Last edited by joshdifabio, Sun 10 Aug 2008, 14:11.

Hi Victor,

Is there any chance <timestamp> could be added to the 'ch' and 'wr' actions? This would save me a load of queries.

Looks like a great find - congrats to both .

Peep Show is absolutely brilliant, but 'That Mitchell and Webb Look' is complete crap. I'd highly recommend 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' to any Peep Show fans, although it's obviously not British.

Quote from 510N3D :

Some people where uploading my sets which i have put on inferno (for a particular reason!)? Some are edited just slightly or not AT all. What kind of competition is this?

That is not 3id's fault. If you've got a problem with people uploading your sets without permission, it may help to say which setups are concerned.

While this competition will obviously benefit 3id's Setupgrid greatly, it's also very good for the community and I don't think 3id deserve grief after all the time, effort and money they've put into it.

In LFS, RCM messages are often used by administrators to (re)start races after a safety car, or when a rolling race start is used. This will usually be a message saying 'Green Flag!', or something similar.

A possible problem which I have observed is that these messages don't seem to arrive to all clients simultaneously, and I therefore propose that there is another form of RCM which is displayed at the same time for all clients.

This could be implemented with something like a 1 second delay on the message being displayed, to account for any acceptable ping rate, and could use the same technique LFS uses to sync start lights at the beginning of a race.

Ah right, I wasn't aware that collision detection had been improved, that explains it .

Regarding the improvements, maybe the collision detection still isn't perfect. On lap 2 Homme made heavy contact with the wall on the last corner and the next lap was not invalidated, even with Y18.

The current hotlap WR with the FBM @ SO Sprint 2 by Homme is invalid, but LFS records the time regardless.

He hits the wall in the last corner of lap 1, and LFS says "Next-invalid". On lap 2 he sets his best time, but even though LFS says "Lap-invalid" the time is recorded. He also hits the wall at the end of lap 2 in the same point as lap 1, but this time the next lap is not invalidated.

Anyway, the bug with LFS not invalidating laps upon wall contact at South City is well known, the new (to my knowledge) bug here is that LFS does invalidate the lap, but still records the time anyway.

Edit: "Homme's hotlap was not valid and will soon be removed.
Please select another racer for comparison."

Maybe this bug is already known?

2.75

Generic congratulatory reply!

Yeah that's true, although it actually quotes 40 characters so it's still a mistake really!