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Jertje
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Quote from Doorman :I have to smile when the pro iRacers come on like Born Again Christians. (with apologies to BACs) If you don't like it you haven't tried it long enough! We have seen the light! To each his own. The only ones that can justifiably be shot at are the ones that criticise yet HAVEN'T tried it and that goes for anything, be it games, cars, cakes, and those awful Swedish salt covered liquorice 'sweets'.
Oh, and I draw the line at homosexual practices, I know I wouldn't like that without trying it!

Forums, to me, are for two things: gaining some kind of knowledge, and arguing with people on the internet!

It's not meant as an "I'm right and you're wrong" thing when I start replying to people, but I can't help myself and I love to chat with people about their ideas and arguments, I don't see it as particularly destructive or defensive.

I've said plenty of times that the sim isn't for everyone, and that it has its flaws, but I still reserve the right to argue with people on their points

Quote from spanks :I honestly hate the mazda. I've given it so many fair chances that I just don't want to drive it anymore.

I thought it was alright for Road America and Silverstone, but I'll see a cold day in hell before I race that thing around Limerock in a full grid. It's a bit like telling a group of kids to go play in a minefield. I honestly can't see why they put that track on the calendar for such a fast car, I'd want to start off pole for any race there, and I'm just not fast enough in the Mazda to pull that off reliably.
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Jertje
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Quote from Intrepid :I am finding iRacing to be the worse standard of online racing I have ever played. It just seems to get worse and worse as I go along. I stay out of trouble and BAM! You get penalised for trying to win, and when you take it easy you get binned anyway,

I am trying my hardest to like iRacing. The physics are so good, and the track are great but waiting an hour to race, and then for it to be over, and to get penalised all in the space of 5 minutes is just annoying.

Worth the 1 month trial, but that's all it's worth. The amount of time and money to find decent races isn't worth it when I can find them in netKar and LFS without any cost!

Trying not to sound like an ass here, but if you have 8.3 incidents average per race, the people you're racing against aren't the only ones you ought to critisize.

Granted, you are entered into very 'rookie-filled' fields, but 8.3 is just too much. The thing is, the worse you race, the worse fields you're going to be put in, and the worse your experience will be. (hence it's getting worse now as you're going along, you're in a bit of a downward spiral)

When I started with iRacing I protected my SR with my life for the first few races; I was scared to race hard and rightfully so in those fields, so I practiced a lot before heading out into a race, and if for whatever reason it went wrong on my side due to spins or off-track adventures, I'd head straight back to practice to iron out my difficulties with the track/car. Trust me, it's a different ball-game when you're racing peers in a 3k strength field, the standard is much, much higher there than most leagues in any other racing sim.

Bad stuff always happens though, some time back the leader was driving his broken car into the grass because he couldn't keep it under control, and no matter how much I hawked his movements and slowed down for the next corner to give him space to avoid an accident, I worked towards the accident beautifully and he eventually spun uncontrollably on the grass and slided right into me. So, I threw a hissy fit and got over it. It'll happen less in higher-rated fields, but it still happens.

Remember though, at the start you're thrown in with the rookies to prove your worth, and to prove that you can race with the cleaner drivers in higher quality fields. It's not entirely reasonable to expect solid racing in 1000 strength fields, that's like 600 below the starting iRating!
Jertje
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Quote from deggis :the new Formula Nippon cars are cool too, in a crazy Japanese kind of way.

My nipples are going hard just from looking at those cars...

Jertje
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They don't serve beer in cinemas in the states?
Jertje
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I once went through a cinema-pack of M&M's and 0.5l of beer (for the modest price of €10 or whatever) before the movie had even started.
30 minutes of trailers/ads is a lot, but I do see where they're coming from. It's a damn near perfect way to advertise products since the marketeers know exactly what kind of consumer they are dealing with. Plenty of research has gone into market segments and customer pie-charts for them to know almost exactly what brands and type of advertisements the average "Quantum of Solace" or "Max Payne" viewer associates him or herself with.
Jertje
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You should definitely protest that. It doesn't mean that the driver in question gets punished, it just means that he gets a heads up from one of the iRacing staff members that he really needs to watch his track behaviour. If anything it'll just decrease the chance of him acting in the same manner again, even if it was unintended
Jertje
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Quote from hyntty :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karhu

Good man!
Karjala is also quite alright
Jertje
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in b4 everyone sandbags and I win all Div 1 awards!
Jertje
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I don't know really... I don't think that running fast is hard in the Rookie Legends. I find that those races are more based on experience; things like saving the tyres, running higher lines without losing (much) speed and good starts take some time to learn, and I suck at all of those. The actual driving really doesn't take that much skill though. Sure, getting from 16.1 to 16.0 at Lanier requires a ton of practice and dicking around, but it's not as unreachable as the extreme times on road-courses.

Maybe it's very different in the more difficult cars, but I don't think I'll ever spend the cash on those. I can always just keep doing rookie legends to inflate my iRating as I get better, for a solid combined rating of 6000+ or whatever
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Jertje
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Well, tbh I have no interest in venturing into anything other than the Rookie Legends. For me, ovals are a nice form of relaxation where I don't have to practice more than 10 minutes to be competitive, but I've heard my share of war stories from oval races
Jertje
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Apparantly, everyone stays in formation until the green flag, and then you exceed the pace-speed (which is 60-80kph or whatever, I don't know )
In my experience however, some people stay way the hell back and floor the crap out of it before green to jump 3-4 places instantly. I never realised that might be illigal, but I always went when the leader went in my previous races.
Jertje
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I just jumped the hell out of my first oval start from pole position. See, in my experience (from watching F1) the lead car manages pace after the pacecar goes in, so I floored the ever living sh*t out of it when the pacecar went in D:

Apparantly, this is very very naughty, but it was like my 2nd sober oval race, so I really had no idea there were rules like this. Some men with very strong Southern accents started talking about me after the race (first 2nd place!), then I left the server in fear of getting lynched like the naughty little 'cheating' European I am.

If they come for me, I expect one of you guys to give me a good safe-house to hide in.
Jertje
S2 licensed
You don't have to worry about the realism, it's definitely top notch, as is the quality of (close) racing. Just make sure that you have enough time to invest into it, and realise that there's no such thing as pickup racing in the iRacing system. You can practice whenever you want to, but races are at set times, and there's no hopping in and out of servers for a quick race!

Willingness to adapt to that system is a big factor in whether or not it's worth the money
Jertje
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Been playing the demo on and off for quite a while (have it pre-ordered) - it has amazing replay value for what is basically 15 minutes of gameplay
The difficulty jump from Advanced to Expert is stupid, it's like going from stealing candy from a baby to breaking into fort knox.

It's just amazing fun really, but then well implemented co-op gameplay is very hard to not enjoy.
Jertje
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Quote from Gunn :Thanks for filling me in with those details. Can you show me the evidence so that I can judge for myself? I agree that would be strange behaviour indeed.

http://www.f1blog.org/tag/lewis-hamilton/

I suppose you could say that a blog is hardly evidence, but it takes its information from a Spanish newspaper I have no access to, so verifiable it's not. Mind you, there's no link between the people in the picture and the chanting of the crowd, so you be the judge
Jertje
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Trucks are for farmers, and you're all heretics!
Jertje
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Quote from SamH :It seems very obvious that a sim's influence on a genre is something that you can actually only gauge when the NEXT sim is released. That's when you know if the sim has influenced the direction that the genre goes.

That gamesradar post is just a barely-veiled iracing editorial.

+1

I really like iRacing, but let's not pretend it has influenced anything at all yet.

Let's talk again when the next sims have a similar ladder/license system, or laser-scanned tracks/cars. Even that doesn't seem likely due to budgetary constraints though, so
iRacing is just too much of a unique concept to influence other sims.
Jertje
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Quote from Gunn :No it wouldn't, not ever. But in any case, what is racist about a bunch of Lewis fans making themselves up to look like Lewis? No racism there.

They were standing in a crowd with black faces and wigs shouting puto negro as far as I can recall. I really doubt they were happy Hamilton fans.
Jertje
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Quote from major_syphillis :Nazis, when they invaded England? and who was there to bail you out. Funny how people forget.

Can I just confirm that you believe Nazis invaded England, and had nukes?
Jertje
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Quote from major_syphillis :Why do you guys think that the markets drop again with the news of Obama being elected?

...

Gee I don't know, maybe because we've been in one of the biggest economic crises of the century for a while now? Damn that Obama, he's making it worse already, amirite?
Jertje
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Rage....
Jertje
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I managed to snatch 2nd place in div 2 TT for the Skippies, I hope I can start a nice collection
Jertje
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Alright, so I've found a bit of love for the Mazda at last. It's a much more enjoyable car when you don't spin every lap, that's for sure
I practiced for a couple of hours this week and finally took the plunge this afternoon for my first race this season, started from 2nd place and I ended up having a fantastic battle for the lead which required a lot of strategising to set up my rival for a pass. I eventually managed to pass him braking late into T5, but 4 laps before the end I went wide at the same spot, and he took the lead back D:

It's incredibly difficult to lose someone in the draft in a Mazda at Road America, you gain several car-lengths on the straights if you're behind, but do suffer from quite a bit of dirty air up close.

If half of my Mazda races are going to be this exiting and engaging then I'll happily leave the Skippy behind, although I plan to compete in both series if I can be competitive in both
Jertje
S2 licensed
Well, praise the lawd and all that. Now I can go back to sleep
Jertje
S2 licensed
I'm thinking that the lack of demos is due to their racing model.
It's arguably pointless to give out demos of cars when you need to drive those cars to compete in the next class anyway. Heck, I know nothing of the new lotus but I'll buy it to race in class A and I wouldn't think twice about trying it actually. What they essentially want is to have all the cars at the same level of development: as near to perfect as they can get them.

So if you're driving around in the Solstice, and you like the sim and decide that it's worth your money by the end of your trial month, they expect their customers to dish out the extra money for the Skippy and the required tracks. It's absolutely not an option (at least in my mind) to race in the sim with just the basic cars. Their business-model is based entirely around customers buying in for 3-12 months and using the iMoney they get to buy a new car and eventually roll into the next tier of tracks and cars, and so on.

Giving customers a chance to try other cars would just be a nice gesture really. If you like the sim itself for its physics/tracks and enjoy the mechanics of the system, then they probably expect you to keep racing and go up through the licenses. For that you need to buy new cars anyway, and trying them isn't likely to give customers the last push they need to commit for a couple of months. There's also (I could be speculating here) the off-chance that customers whom can barely control the Solstice try out the Radical, and then decide that it's too difficult and give up entirely on spending any more time/money/effort into the sim. It makes sense for everyone to advance through the system in order. So in the end I think they might have thought about their model a bit more than everyone assumes.

Of course, I could be totally wrong here :P
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