To be slightly less bitchy, LOTA main series are generally held on Thursday nights, 9pm Eastern time. In the past there have been Monday night series, and in the more distant past there have been Sunday night events.
Session of Incident: Race
Lap of incident: 21
Time: 35:30 minutes
Car 12 and car 08
Car 08 uses the apron to force himself by 12, and collected 12 on turn 1
Lap of incident: 21
Time: 35:30 minutes
Car 12 and car 08
Car 08 uses the apron to force himself by 12, and collected 12 on turn 1
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That may be too big an assumption. I'm not sure they've ever done 'ad hoc' pick-up racing to support this series. Most of the practice races have been done on servers provided by some of the more organized teams, like 7Karat, RSR, and IRM for example.
Of course, if NDR proves me wrong here, so much the better.
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I think you'll find (edit: have found)that there is strong disagreement with your statement that going fast isn't as important as the other factors and that keeping the car on the track etc, are more important. Going fast is equally important in endurance racing to succeed as it is in sprint racing, likewise for the damage control. The only real differences in endurance racing is the strategy involved and the (for lack of a better word) lower limits that both the car and drivers have in endurance racing. These differences boil down to choices. The car is still driven as fast as possible in the limiting conditions.
Perhaps the tone of what's being said isn't the one I'd use (it's improved markedly today), but I agree with the belief that the FX9 wasn't pushed as closely to its limits as the XR9s and the FZ9s. I will also agree that KY3b isn't a good example of how successful the FX9 will eventually be. In a private conversation, an elite driver involved in the restriction debate has stated that he believes that all 3 cars have the ability to win the championship. He made the statement in good faith, and I think he may be right. I believe that while some may disagree with the conclusions made (and the dissenters are entitled), the administration team and their helpers are working to make a fair series. They're attempting to even out the series, using the points formula as well as car balancing to ensure an equitable league overall, and I thank them for it.
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Deko beat me to it
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Reason : Redundancy
A massive assumption indeed. I'm sure if you think even for a second you can come up with a couple of good reasons. In my case, "the better thing to do" was drive my daughter to an event every Sunday evening.
I admire the intestinal fortitude it takes to stick out a fairly long season with little chance for success. I don't think you need to insult the guys who don't have that same quality (and make no mistake, it is insulting). I entered the league in good faith, and I while I don't feel good about missing the last few races, neither do I feel particularly bad.
With respect to the commentators, please find some new words to describe behaviour other than "stupid" and "idiotic." All too often you attacked the racer and not the maneuver. I don't believe than any of the racers in Round 4 were actually stupid.
I know that the on-air talent don't have the luxury of replay to analyze an incident to death like real life TV 'experts' have, but still make snap and very harsh assessments of the conduct. Yes, you have a tough job, but so do the racers, cut them a little slack. Let the other racers call names and insults, I think that the commentators should be a little above that. I don't want you to not call a "spade a spade" but please make sure that it's not something else. Because the commentators are typically well respected racers in LFS, their words carry significant weight. Maybe all that's really at stake is hurt feelings and damaged LFS reputations, but some people value these things.
Anyway, LFS broadcasting has come quite a way since the earliest days, and I'm sure that most of us appreciate the work that goes into these productions. I hope my mild criticism is taken in the spirit it was given.
As for my race, I was hopelessly outclassed by just about everyone. I was even lapped by Saidl fairly early on, but I was able to get it back after his unfortunate pitstop. I went with 100% fuel to give myself the maximum chance to catch a lucky caution period and was able to stay on the lead lap by taking my pitstop during the second (third?) caution period. I was able to keep myself out of trouble (mostly) during the rash of yellows and I found a reliable drafting partner in Yann Laprevotte (thanks for the kind words during your post-race interview). We were able to catch Nathan L, but the three of us couldn't seem to work together. We got pretty aggressive and Nathan clipped a wall after I got a little wide. Late in the race, Yann lost the draft, and I ended up 7th, almost getting lapped again. A very successful race for a oval noob, and a big step up from the KY250.
I know that the on-air talent don't have the luxury of replay to analyze an incident to death like real life TV 'experts' have, but still make snap and very harsh assessments of the conduct. Yes, you have a tough job, but so do the racers, cut them a little slack. Let the other racers call names and insults, I think that the commentators should be a little above that. I don't want you to not call a "spade a spade" but please make sure that it's not something else. Because the commentators are typically well respected racers in LFS, their words carry significant weight. Maybe all that's really at stake is hurt feelings and damaged LFS reputations, but some people value these things.
Anyway, LFS broadcasting has come quite a way since the earliest days, and I'm sure that most of us appreciate the work that goes into these productions. I hope my mild criticism is taken in the spirit it was given.
As for my race, I was hopelessly outclassed by just about everyone. I was even lapped by Saidl fairly early on, but I was able to get it back after his unfortunate pitstop. I went with 100% fuel to give myself the maximum chance to catch a lucky caution period and was able to stay on the lead lap by taking my pitstop during the second (third?) caution period. I was able to keep myself out of trouble (mostly) during the rash of yellows and I found a reliable drafting partner in Yann Laprevotte (thanks for the kind words during your post-race interview). We were able to catch Nathan L, but the three of us couldn't seem to work together. We got pretty aggressive and Nathan clipped a wall after I got a little wide. Late in the race, Yann lost the draft, and I ended up 7th, almost getting lapped again. A very successful race for a oval noob, and a big step up from the KY250.
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All my internet buying occurs on this type of card. Fortunately I have one that has no service fees (some have ridiculous fees). It also helps with impulse control
Money in banks is insured. A big difference from giving a credit card number to someone you don't trust (rightly or wrongly).
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Team Name: Saltwater Racing
Team Manager: Jonathan Bjornson / JayEyeBee
Entered Cars: 1
Starting numbers for the cars: 38
License Applications for the team:
Jonathan Bjornson / JayEyeBee / Male / CAN
Team Manager: Jonathan Bjornson / JayEyeBee
Entered Cars: 1
Starting numbers for the cars: 38
License Applications for the team:
Jonathan Bjornson / JayEyeBee / Male / CAN
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As far as I can tell, no one is crying about the rule, we're discussing if we want it to change. So far the discussion has been civil, and dare I say, reasonably productive. It may not change anything, but so far it's not a debate I'm ashamed to be a participant, yet. I can point to examples of crying in the forums, this isn't it. Do you have an opinion on this rule?
There was no point in my 'weaker team' statement, it was just a little self-deprecating joke.
If I understand the gist of the rest of your argument, you feel that luck is too much of a factor in whether or not you benefit or are punished by the wave around rule. Point taken.
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Well, I know a lot of people can pull a situation or two that they think they remember out of the top of their heads. Spencer's thorough explanation is more what I need. This example doesn't help me decide if the rule should be changed. Conquest was waved around in error because of confusion due to a disconnect, that doesn't mean that the rule is wrong or right, just that they shouldn't have been waved around.
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As a member of one of the weaker teams in the series, I liked the rule . Our tires hardly ever got cold because we were racing around catching the queue.
If teams were racing for prizes or some other tangible reward, I'd definitely encourage revamping the rule, but since we're not, I don't think it's necessary (pride doesn't count).
Other than Spencer's situation at FE3, can anyone else give an example of a team that excessively benefited or was punished by this rule? (Genuine question, I'd like to know.) If there is a lot of evidence to support a change, I'm willing to be convinced. I'm not, yet.
Jonathan
PS
I don't know what you mean by this. Sport vs spectacle, maybe?
. Our tires hardly ever got cold because we were racing around catching the queue. If teams were racing for prizes or some other tangible reward, I'd definitely encourage revamping the rule, but since we're not, I don't think it's necessary (pride doesn't count)
.Other than Spencer's situation at FE3, can anyone else give an example of a team that excessively benefited or was punished by this rule? (Genuine question, I'd like to know.) If there is a lot of evidence to support a change, I'm willing to be convinced. I'm not, yet.
Jonathan
PS
I don't know what you mean by this. Sport vs spectacle, maybe?
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I can listen to them both all day.
There have been penalties applied without having a protest filed in the protest thread; cool, I like it. There is a protest that has been rejected in round three (basically on a technicality). Does this rejection of the protest mean that the admins will not review the incident?
Jonathan
Jonathan
While the admins did just fine, some credit must go to the racers. While I'm sure there were questionable or reviewable moves, it seems that this race managed to avoid a lot of the mayhem that seems to be plaguing some LFS series.
My sprint race was going fine, I managed to find someone to fight for position, but timed out (a little weird; not a hint of lag, then blam-o). Starting from far back in the main race, I again found the same racer to fight.
Perhaps a highlight was the fuel starvation of Seb and Wilko, in what appears to be exactly the same spot. Seb was nice enough to let me push him around for a bit until we ran into pik-d.
My sprint race was going fine, I managed to find someone to fight for position, but timed out (a little weird; not a hint of lag, then blam-o). Starting from far back in the main race, I again found the same racer to fight.
Perhaps a highlight was the fuel starvation of Seb and Wilko, in what appears to be exactly the same spot. Seb was nice enough to let me push him around for a bit until we ran into pik-d.
Unless it changes #11
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Lap/Timecode/Session: Leader's lap 113 /2.52.27 (race time)
Cars involved: 11, 01
Brief description of incident: Turn 1 Car 01 hits the rear of 11. While the damage was slight, the 01 car should not have been on the track at all.
Cars involved: 11, 01
Brief description of incident: Turn 1 Car 01 hits the rear of 11. While the damage was slight, the 01 car should not have been on the track at all.
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Withdrawing from series.
Driver: Jonathan Bjornson /JayEyeBee
Car: XFG
Car: 38
Country: CAN
Car: XFG
Car: 38
Country: CAN
Only slightly better than a recent UF1 oval race. While the racing was atrocious, the administration was good, if a tad high strung
My race may have been the most uneventful. Cruised around in close to last place for a lot of the race, then in the last green flag run I was able to climb up to my goal of top 15.
The restart format may need some tweaking. By being able to block the outside the racers are getting set up to fail by one driver's poor start.
Interesting commentary. (I've listened a couple of times to the desciption of my picture, but I can't make out one word. I suspect it isn't complimentary )
My race may have been the most uneventful. Cruised around in close to last place for a lot of the race, then in the last green flag run I was able to climb up to my goal of top 15.
The restart format may need some tweaking. By being able to block the outside the racers are getting set up to fail by one driver's poor start.
Interesting commentary. (I've listened a couple of times to the desciption of my picture, but I can't make out one word. I suspect it isn't complimentary
)
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Reason : Deko beat me to it
I was pointing out the rule, nothing more. I'm not the one you need to convince.
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