Quote from S.E.T.H :

you guys talk like you know nothing about button control rate. it does not help you with not locking the tyres or accelerating smoothly. in accelerating, it feels like turbo lag because after the initial press on the button, it just gives you the full power. if it worked like you thought, you could be going at a certain speed while holding the throttle button down. but you cant.

lets say you have to use 60% brake at some point, button control rate wont really be of any help. it works for the first second you press the button. it'll just hit 100% moments after the initial press. so you will lock the wheels and your only chance is releasing the button and pressing it again which will cost you time.

Tapping the buttons helps and it won't cost you much time if you have your button control rate just right and you can control your taps.

In AC forum?

Quote from S.E.T.H :

because with mouse they have only full throttle or no throttle, full brake or no brake.

That's not the case for me atleast, because I use a lower button control rate so that smoothens up the input by some distance and enables brake and throttle more smoothly which makes driving somewhat easier.

Quote from S.E.T.H :

and a wheel user will be slower even if he/she gets used to mouse.

Also I have to disagree, because I was using a wheel before mouse, but now when using mouse I am quite a bit faster than I was with a wheel. That might be down to experience though because I wasn't too experienced when driving with a wheel

I do remember though that when I was a wheel driver then I would try mouse sometimes and would think how anybody could even keep a car on a straight line with it

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

IMO due to its lack of any precise input mouse makes it pretty hard to it's pretty hard to be either a) committed to the ideal line early in the corner, or b) make slight steering adjustments mid-corner, while in the meantime c) have clean breaking and acceleration zones, which can be quite important for corner entry and exit, especially with some of the heavier and/or more powerful cars. Sometimes it amazes me how some mouse drivers manage to post near-WR times despite those disadvantages, so fair play to them.

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

Hard to drive the car on the rear tyres like wheel users would do. This can be quite a disadvantage with the RWD GTRs in particular

All of this input precision and ability to drive the car to the limit comes down to experience and practice IMO (as with a wheel ofcourse), because I don't think that you could drive fast instantly when you start driving with a mouse. For me, having a wheel probably helped it a bit but I remember how useless I was when I first started driving with a mouse about a year ago or so, and then suddenly after some months of practice I was beating my old PBs with ease. As S.E.T.H mentioned, mouse drivers have to feel different things to drive fast and it takes time to adapt to that. I don't quite remember when I was competent enough to drive stints consitently, but still it takes a lot of practice and time.

What I'm trying to say here is that mouse drivers are often underrated and bashed because people think that it is very easy for them to do what they do, but I definetely don't think so.

Quote from Mysho :

Have no time to read page by page but just in case anyone missed it, there are 4 new mod tracks available for download:

• Top Gear Test Track
  
  
• Eastern Creek Raceway
  
  
• Desert Roads
  
  
• NARDO High Speed Ring
  

Here is the original article with download links, too.
http://www.racedepartment.com/ ... ur-new-circuits-released/

Gave myself a try @ Top Gear track and it is great area for setup testing and such. No idea about the others.

Desert Roads was pretty fun to test some top speeds

Quote from Fordman :

So I give it a bash, as you do, but you soon realise, a mouse setup is really no good for a wheel user.

I don't think that's really correct because I use so called wheel setups with mouse and I see no problem with them, except maybe for small details like brake pressure etc.

I have also given my setups to wheel users and I don't recall any big issues with them, except for maybe these small details.

I was afraid to see this happen when I saw the news that he had been taken to hospital last week... Sad to see this, may he rest in peace.

rip in peace

you probably wouldn't have time to even notice that..

072, Jordan Lavrikov, imudilaskyline, Last Lap Motorsports

:lovies3d:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/ ... r-united-sack-david-moyes

hilarious

hahaha, what an idiot how was he even allowed in the car?

hahaha

please take it to pm's or something

072, Jordan Lavrikov, imudilaskyline, Last Lap Motorsports

forgot to confirm before and didn't have internet access yesterday

Quote from S.E.T.H :

all of the wrs are done with oversteering, in racing oversteering mostly will cost you time. in lfs it helps you get quicker time. another result of it having wrong physics.


tyre almost keeps the same traction as the brand new until it just have no more rubber. then it just pops.

Quote from Bose321 :

With a glimpse of a nice car I meant the car in the rear.

Gotta have some excuse for being shit

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If there's professional and qualitative organizing I'm in for everything.

Ban was too short

take it back

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swag

#720 updated with rookie stripes, sorry for late post