Been hard at work on the insim and my real job, an update is coming soon™.

Sorry for the delay.

After a much needed personal vacation, I have started working on the NGC insim again.

An update should be ready soon™.

In other news, 1 NGC sponsored server is back online. Team Vires by NGC (Private) is online.
Working to get all our other sponsored servers back, having trouble to due hosting limits right now.

Last edited by edge3147, Fri 30 Mar 2012, 18:30.

I like Nice setup too.

LFS Name:edge3147
Racername:[NGD] Psycho
Time zone: -5 GMT
Number: 420

Read carefully so you don't jump to conclusions before reading the entire thing.

While I understand what Victor said, the fact still REMAINS, VWS and Rockingham were both announced YEARS ago. Falling back from those updates because you are TRYING to improve the physics is a bad move. If I announce that I completed a layout change on my server but then decided not to do it because I was trying to fix the Insim, masses of trolls would call me out and trash my name because I announced something was done and ready but then decided against it because I wanted to fix SOMETHING else first.

Now I understand the physics is what helps make this such a good and fun racing sim to own and play BUT Doing all this hard work like Rockingham and the VWS and then just having it sit around and not be seen is really HURTING the future of LFS. Like most everyone has pointed out, the stardard for pc gaming has risen and LFS trying to make up for the advances in the gaming standard is not only killing the gameplay but it is also killing the interest in LFS as well. Take a look at RFactor and CARS for example, yes they are still being majorly developed and are flawed and have bugs but what they have that LFS doesn't is PROGRESS. Updates here, updates there. Adding cars here, adding tracks there, adding new graphical features, etc.


Signs of progress are what help attract and KEEP players.

Quote from Yuri Laszlo :

Obviously if it was good enough they would have released the track already. Did anyone here actually play it at Rockingham and can vouch for the realism of the track at the time of the event?

For all we know, it could have had the worst arcadey feel ever - something I'm sure most people here would be getting their panties in a twist about it if it happened once it had been made publicly available.

It changes nothing with the physics, so the cars would drive they drive right now. It is only a track update. But I have to live with the devs choices, so I will stop my participation in this thread now, glad Victor came and said something tho =)

All valid points, but, I don't like silence.

Quote from Intrepid :

When did spending £24 on one of the best sims on the planet give people the licence to act like complete ejits?

Imagine going to get a take away pizza, and when the place was getting renovated you waltzed on, and on the basis of once spending £24 on a really nice pizza (say a pizza that continued to be 'consumerable' for years and years), you start shouting at the managers telling them how they don't care about you and treat you like sh*t & how the renovation should be quicker. You agree that would be odd behavour? no?

The contract between YOU and LFS is very simple. You give them £24 and you get S2 content with the occasional bug fix. They have more than lived up to their side of the contract. If you have beef, take them to court. Though taking a match and setting light to a bundle of cash would yield more worth.

If people engaged half a brain cell they may figure out that Rockingham probably contracted Scawan and co to create it. WE probably didn't PAY for it! As if somehow PAYING for LFS is somehow like a TAX which would give you the right to demand certain things. It isn't a tax though, it's a contract between buyer and supplier. LFS isn't a democratic sovereign state. It's a business.

The contract probably stipulates a number of things that mean it may not be contained within S2. Or that maybe the devs don't want to release it yet. So what?

I feel for the devs sometimes having people totally misunderstand the fundamentals about how they do things.

Right and because Scawen and Crew are such good developers and well known people, I am sure they are the first people Rockingham went to about this. I would bet money, that Rockingham already had a laser scan of the track and offered it to Scawen and Company for a price.



As for the fundamentals about how they are doing things, they are very lousy and lacking. I have half the mind to be able to see that lack of communication is a not helping them any BUT it is hurting their image in the long run.

I have fitted our AS5X layout with my Speed Limit Marker idea added in.

The onscreen speed limit is disabled right now as a true test the signs, because in real life you don't have an onscreen speed limit system and most gps devices that I have seen do not give speed limits.

This is the most "realistic" speed limit system you will find on a cruise server right now.

All posted speeds are based in kmh.

I just don't understand why LFS is good enough for the actual track to run obviously current versions of LFS WITH Rockingham, while the rest of us who helped fund and create this game with our license purchases get to sit back and wait and wonder.

Releasing 1 new track ahead of the tyre update is a more than reasonable and feasible update to do than say releasing the VWS. I just don't understand why it hasn't been done. Everyone could go to the real track and play what we are all waiting for (not really plausible for most but still the fact remains that it is possible.)

Need to rethink the marketing strategy.

=( Guess I go back to waiting.

Quote from tbofram :

It looks like some vandals have knocked them off from were they should be. But cool

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. Definitely going with this idea. Speed Limit Markers will be based in KMH. I will make sure to put a notice on the Insim as well. This is a never seen before idea from NGC =)

Quote from xtraction :

i agree with this quote 100%.. I dont think they want to waste their time releasing updates when there isnt much activity anymore. I dont think they get that if they do release one, many more will return.

They dont even take the time to mix it up and muddle in with the people that are dedicated and keep their sim going, even though its outdated. They post progress reports, ban people from forums and lock threads.

If you sum everything up, its an abomination.. but hey, LFS is still a great sim because of the freedom we are given.

110% Agree with you.

We should have this track already. Once the physics is released all the WR's will be reset anyway, why can't we have it now to practice on until the new physics is completed???

New SO4X Layout, thanks to Aleksi =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... FtBd0&feature=related


Oct, 2011. That is LFS on Rockingham they are playing AT the real Rockingham track.


So the Rockingham track is good enough to be used for simulators at the real track, but the license holders like us who helped fund and make this possible still can't have the track?

Shady business.

http://www.marketwatch.com/sto ... ssan-ceo-ghosn-2012-03-21


Not in US or U.K. Markets tho, Indonesia, India, and Russia

Quote from tbofram :

You little s*it, you added south city without telling me I have not cruised on that track for ages. That track better be on the server when I visit

Come check it out!!!!!

Also, quick question for anyone wanting to answer.

What do you think about using these markers as speed limit signs?
(the 75 marker)

Here is a screenshot of the current NGC Insim.




Full Size link below
http://i.imgur.com/TinVZ.jpg

Adding buttons for driving and bank bonus soon.

Last edited by edge3147, Wed 21 Mar 2012, 00:20.

Yes as soon as we get our host problem figured out, shouldn't be too much longer.

Our new website is online.

http://nextgenlfscommunity.webs.com/

This is just a starter page for Next Gen. As we progress and grow, so will our website.

1/6th of all the servers are usually empty. that means about 600 empty servers. Unpopulated servers are the first signs of a dying game, Followed by Lack of Dev Communication, followed by fewer updates and longer time between updates, I could keep naming things that show how dead LFS really is.

Fact of the matter is, it has been over 3 years since the Scirocco was announced. (Thu, Dec 11th, 2008 19:10>Announcing VW Scirocco)

It's going on 2.5 years since the tyre physics was announced (Fri, Aug 21st, 2009 20:30>New Tyre Physics)

AND, same can be said for Rockingham (Mon, Sep 21st, 2009 17:30>Rockingham coming to LFS)

Devs announced 3 major additions and updates to LFS that have yet to be released.

I hate thinking LFS is dead, but the evidence is adding up with every passing day.

RIP Joe.

New FE4X Layout thanks to full member Aleksi. It is great.

I never had that problem with this source, unless its a different source than the one I have.

Thanks, we wish Vires and IC the best of luck this year as well.

Here is the NGC Cruise Insim CURRENT Feature List.

**NGC Insim Features**
Loads of Different Ranks and Jobs
Ranks - Cruiser, Member, Full Member, Staff, Admin.
Delivery Jobs - (Taxi Fare and Delivery to Job HQ)
Jobs that require Application - Cadet, Officer, Tow Truck, Mafia, (More Soon)
Street and Speed Limits - Partially Completed, To be finished ASAP.
Health System WITH Health Pack - Health that lowers as you drive. Stop at any shop to get health, Go to Job HQ and get a 151% health pack for less stopping.
Driving Bonus System - 100% Complete Driving Bonus System. For each 50km you drive without pitting, you get a set amount of cash.
Abuse Free Bank Bonus System - Earn 1% of your Bank Balance when you earn 100km, 200km, then every 150km after that. Only works if you drive, not a timed system.

No AFK Timer! AFK as long as you want =)

Loads of useful commands!
!help - Displays Help Commands
!rules - Displays Basic Rules
!displayhelp - Displays Commands to change User Interface Appearance
!showoff - Shows all your stats.
!cars, !money, !distance, !jobs - Displays Cars/Money/Distance/Jobs Done
!ts - Displays our Teamspeak Information
!website - Website Link


This is what our insim currently features, this is not final by any means. We will continue to update and add new features to our insim. Stay Tuned.