Pit stops are going to be very interesting next year. I assume that now because fuel weight isn't a factor, everyone is going to running as few stops as possible. Or are they?

Will the time gained by running on fresh rubber offset the time it takes to pit and change the tyres?

How is qualifying going to work? Three sessions, all with race fuel? No sessions with race fuel, and a full tank on race day?

Also, what's the deal with regard to teams having to use both tyre compounds, like this year? Does that mean at least one pit stop will be compulsory? Imagine a last place driver conserving his tyres for a whole race, and overtaking everyone in the pits...

As for Monza, I can't wait. Hope it rains.

Quote from george_tsiros :

"lurching forward" is not a phrase i expect to be used, on a racing forum, from a native english speaker, for when a car shifts its weight forward.

Well that's not exactly my fault is it?

And you're not exactly staying on topic, you're nitpicking about how people use language, which is pretty poor really.

Quote from tristancliffe :

If a car has 100% anti-dive, and the driver brakes hard and doesn't heel and toe, then does the car still 'lurch forward'? Or do cars only lurch forwards when it suits them?

I have no idea what you are talking about - are you talking about independent active suspension?

I drive a 1996 Mazda MX5. Does that make any sense now?

Gee, you guys were busy in my absence!

OK, to clear it up for our non-English friends;

Here is an example - put your car in first gear, accelerate heavily for a few seconds. Then stamp on the brake. What the car is doing here, is lurching forwards - the back of the car lifts up, the front dives down, the weight is shifted to the front of the car, and the back end of the car becomes light, thus the car is unbalanced. All cars do this, to varying degrees. Stiffer suspension does it less, for obvious reasons.

Heel and toe, in this instance, keep the rear end of the car lower under heavier breaking (as the throttling raises the car up at the front, keeping the car balanced, therefore less "lurch").

Further to this, there's nothing wrong with applying "racing" techniques (haha) to road use if it makes your car more stable. If anything, more people should be doing it, because it will cause less accidents.

As for assuming that I'm not a safe driver, well I guess you'll never know. You can make all of the assumptions you like, but 9 out of 10 times you'd be completely wrong.

Either too fast, or in a car with soft / ****ed suspension. You decide

Quote from Becky Rose :

I'd rather have the good refference then try my luck at proving a grey area. The fact is multiple people have been laid off, so whatever their motivations for picking me (the missed deadline or the fact I was - as far as they are concerned - looking elsewhere already) is a bit irrellevent.

I understand this, and this is exactly the same reason why people don't chase things up like this. However, you are protected (again, by law) should you want to challenge them, as your previous employer isn't allowed to give you a bad reference. They can, of course, give you no reference at all. But that's a risk that some people are willing to take, for the sake of justice.

Quote from Becky Rose :

In reflection the job had become quite sour, and whilst I love the work the environment has been far from satisfactory for some time. A senior manager from a different branch of the company spoke to me recently about the squeezes going on and demonstrated his disdain for the management, he also commented that he didnt think I had been given very fair treatment of late and offered me a transfer. It's too late to take that transfer now, and I rejected it half knowing this was probably going to happen sooner or later (I really wanted to last the full 2 years before I did anything about it though).

Yeah, that sucks. But (as I'm unsure how long you've been working in this illustrious industry of ours) - it's much more acceptable these days for people to be a lot less permanent in their jobs. Once upon a time, companies used to put lots of value in how much time you spent in one place, but I've found that employers are a lot more interested in what you can do, and how you do it. I'm a "web based developer" too by trade, so I see what you'll see.

Quote from Becky Rose :

So really i've lost nothing in terms of my career by putting that job behind me. It was a stepping stone into the industry, I was paid less than half of my counterparts, my sub-ordinates where better paid than me, and being the only fluent English speaker below my boss I was shouted at for every failure no matter who's fault it was, I really was not happy.

It's funny, whenever people ask me what I do, and I tell them, they always reply with "oh, well you must be on a good wage then!". How wrong they are.

It's sick to know that these days in web development, an employer might expect you to have the skillset of a demi-god, yet because they put the word "junior" before your job title, they can get away with paying you peanuts. Luckily, I rode that out, and I no longer have that hanging around my neck, but it took a while.

2 years then redundancy - that's two weeks wages, plus your last month's wages. If you can get another job within six weeks, you'll be laughing.

Good luck with that. I don't think that our industry has been as badly hit as others, as I ALWAYS get email spam telling me of more and more jobs available.

Further to my claims, this is good reading:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Em ... ob/Redundancy/DG_10029835

I read a lot into this when my company was recently making redundancies, and I was check what I should expect, and what my rights were. There is a certain set of guidelines that your employer has to abide by before making you redundant. You looking for new work isn't grounds for redundancy. At the very least, they need to be able to prove that your job is no longer tenable.

Quote from bunder9999 :

if it's a private company, they can fire and hire whoever they want, for whatever reason... if they found out someone was looking for another job, that's certainly grounds to can their ass...

what a complete load of utter nonsense.

Quote from samjh :

Note, however, that you DO NOT NEED to heel-toe, under any circumstance apart from racing. In normal road driving, or even in police pursuits or anti-ambush driving, the best practice is to performing braking and gear changing as separate actions.

This isn't true, I use heel and toe when dropping two gears at once, for example heading into a roundabout, shifting from 5th to 3rd. Just stamping on the breaks, and shifting into 3rd at high revs unsettles many cars - heel and toe here keeps the car from lurching forwards - some people are happy with blipping the throttle too or left foot breaking, which achieves the same things, but it's not as quick imo.

Quote from Becky Rose :

So now I've been added to the list of redundancies this month, seeing as I was apparently leaving anyway

If they go all the way with this, then I would expect you would get substantial damages, as this is without a doubt totally illegal.

Quote from Becky Rose :

What a guy.

If you got a similarly substantial wedge that he undoubtedly got from Ferrari, you would say similar things.

I imagine that the extra ticket and merchandise sales made purely from the Italian connection at Monza, far outweigh the price of Ferrari paying out Fisi's contract. It's pretty good business really.

Oh man this is good news. I can't wait until Monza now!

Taking bets for Fisi to out-drive Kimi!

So does that mean that Hamilton and Button will be racing with Harry Ramsden McLaren Mercedes next year? Man, that would be awesome...

It would be VERY easy to introduce a single binary cache file for remote player skins - introducing a DRM-esque system is nonsensical.

That said, what's the point? If people are that bothered about stealing skins, they can even resort to taking screenshots and pilfer images in that fashion. Everybody has the ability, it'll never go away.

@broken: Who gives a ****? Grow up.

Quote from Khann :

This argument annoys me so much. If one man was as fast as a team of men, why would companies that make games even bother with more than one coder? If Scawen was coding the game, and had another coder ironing out bugs, I'm sure coding would get done a heck of a lot faster. Sure, he'd have to get used to the code and how everything worked, but once he (or she, I shouldn't be sexist here!) was up to speed, I have no doubt things would work faster. All it takes is a little organisation.

You are making many many assumptions here.

First of all, you are assuming you know how Scawen and the guys run their business. I suspect that you actually don't, so you aren't qualified to suggest how to make it "better".

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why would companies that make games even bother with more than one coder?

Couple of things here; "companies" that make other games might have a couple of dozen people writing actual code for various aspects of the game (level design, graphic design, physics, game concepts, story boarding, etc. the list is LONG). However, lots of their time is taken up not actually writing any code, but communicating with all of the other people. Make suggestions, offering solutions, discussing work flow, signing ideas and work off with managers, etc. When you work in this kind of environment, just because you work in that environment creates more work. Just the management overhead itself requires more people to be employed.

I imagine a game like GRID might be developed in a big environment like this.

Compare that to one man, he manages all his code, he writes it all, he knows where everything lives, he doesn't have to explain his code, he doesn't sit in long boring concept meetings with ten other people, all who want a piece of the pie.

Compare GRID with LFS; Don't care how you look at it, GRID is a much larger game, that has many more requirements set upon it by the production company, the development house, the sponsors, etc. Comparatively LFS is a much simpler model.

Why then, would anybody want to make the development process of LFS any more complicated? You wouldn't. You have a track record of making it work in the past, so if it aint broke, don't "fix it".

This is just one aspect of why, in certain cases, it would be significantly less efficient to just throw more people at it.

I for one, welcome our new rubbery overlords.

Quote from Mustafur :

Yes they blamed him in the race(coulthard/Brundle), After watching it once and from jensons view they get there asumption.

It is a racing incident but its not fair for them to blame grosjean from an angle they can't even see hes car.

The difference being, that Grosjean could see Button, and it's likely that Button couldn't see Grosjean. Everybody is in the same boat with regards to how much they can see in the cockpit of an F1 car - it's very restrictive - so Grosjean was at fault, at LEAST, because he didn't take this into account.

Also, when you compare LFS to real life, don't forget that real life racers don't all lock up in the first few corners, because they do tend to have a degree of patience. Unlike most LFS racers, where that shit has to be won within the first lap.

Quote from Mustafur :

All of the drivers in the crash blamed Grosjean for it and so did the commentators when really it was Jenson.

In my view, this says enough.

If all the drivers and commentators (who by the way, it has been previously stated are much better informed than any of us lowly sim racers) blame Grosjean, then I really don't understand how you can argue the point.

That said, it WAS a racing incident so it's really hard to apportion actual blame. Rather, it was someone's miscalculation being the catalyst for the accidents directly thereafter.

Sessel-Treiber are exactly that.

Quote from carey :

it was in fact Massa that said it would have been impossible on such a short straight.

Massa, Kimi's team mate? He said that? NO WAY! Yer, shaddap.

Quote from carey :

Firstly if you watch the onboard he was slightly impeded by Rosberg, and what would you have rather he done? Backed off, taken second? The crime in that race was that Felipe was awarded the win when he said himself that he completely backed off.

Secondly, <insert demo racer hate statement here>, therefore you aren't allowed an opinion. Opinions cost twelve quid around here, didn't you know?

Aye, sounds like wireless packet loss. Wireless can act screwy if someone in your area has recently turned on a router that shares the same channel ID or has the same wireless SSID. Many people just turn their router on, and don't change the SSID, which for many netgear users, can be problematic!

Whenever I've had issues like this, I change my SSID and channel ID, and it normally sorts it out.

Quote from Mustafur :

I highly doubt this, very highly doubt this, Badoer has driven in F1 at a point deseverely so which would put him basically above anyone in lfs from my knowledge, he laped considerably faster then hes quaily time in the race which proves he just needs to be more climatized to it.

You may seem to forget the surface, power, and stability of a car and track like this.

The clue here was the word "quip", which is a witty or clever remark.

Opinions are like arses. Everyone has one.*

*You just have a bigger arse than everyone else.

Raikkonen to win in the rain.

OK, I kid I kid!

:tit:

Button to nail it.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

I heard they had to make some track alterations overnight to reduce the speed in the back section, they have put a tempory chicane in place called Badoer, so that might spice things up a bit.

ahah nice.bless him.

awesome discussion guys this is a better watch than the grand prix will be tomorrow!