Quote from Kaw :

Man, I dont understand that. Usain Bolt pwned everything!
I am 197 cms tall, and Usain is 196.
I am seriously slow. How the crap did he do that? Simply amazing

You need more muscles. Chicken legs don't help.

Yeah, same here.

Cockpit view, FTW!! Chase view is for NFS and arcade games, and has no place in a real racing simulator!

Someone once posted a great and funny picture about all the "realistic" driver positions that LFS provided. It's buried somewhere else in this forum, but I can't find it.

Here's some streaming links from Norway. Not sure if they are working outside Norway though.

http://mms-icanal-live.online.no/nrk_tv_webvid10_h
http://straumV.nrk.no/nrk_tv_webvid04_h
http://mms-icanal-live.online.no/nrk_tv_webvid03_h
http://mms-icanal-live.online.no/nrk_tv_webvid04_h
http://mms-icanal-live.online.no/nrk_tv_webvid05_h
http://mms-icanal-live.online.no/nrk_tv_webvid06_h

Ah the joy of Gentoo...

Tried upgrading the chipset drivers?

You can also rename the thread title and add [SOLVED], or something like that to it. vBulletin does have a option for thread prefixes, but it's not activated here.

If you don't get it sold, you could maybe use it as a file server. Or convert it to a media center box. And since it already has Ubuntu on it, then boxee is perfect for it.

Quote from The Very End :

I'm sure that Norway don't win a shit..
Well maybe in rowing, but that's the only thing that there is a chance for us to win in.

Football, handball, javelin and maybe the sexy walk contest.

Quote from (FIN)Eza :

If your monitor can show 60Hz, 75Hz or 100Hz.. You just don't simply need the higher fps. My screen (LCD television) can't show more than 60Hz and I have vsync enabled + fps limited to 60. And pc has enough raw power to keep it there no matter what happens on screen. That's how, no matter what I do on track, I always have same driving environment.

Same here. 1680x1050@60Hz, vsync and fps limited to 62. Gives less stress to the cpu too.

http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm

And from Wikipedia:

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For example, a card may render a game at 100 FPS on a monitor running 75 Hz refresh, but no more than 75 FPS can actually be displayed on screen.

Quote from RocksGt :

Do you think Mateusz's WR's are not fair?

I have used mouse longer than I have used a wheel, so I certainly don't have any disrespect against mouse users.

Quote from migf1 :

Actually, Pallukka just did it a couple of hours ago

Waiting for arrechee to beat it with 0.4s (using AC).... :eclipseeh

Quote from Bawbag :

Zomg Mouse Cheater!

Lol!

Quote from Glenn67 :

Go back to when S2 was first released and at that time there was no clear advantage of using a macro because the button clutch and autoclutch worked in much the same way. Between then and now something has changed in the way the autoclutch operates to give it a distinct disadvantage.

Exactly.

Quote from MaKaKaZo :

I totally agree with you. It's like using automatic gears. If you use automatic gears, how can you say "it's not fair that the people using manual gear shifts are faster than me"?

There are automatic gears in real life that's faster than manual gearing. Anyway, to keep hotlapping fair, each method should be equally fast. Or we need separate hotlap lists for each method.

But the point is, you can't say that macro/button really isn't any faster, when in fact yourself and a few others of us have proven that it is. No matter how flawed the autoclutch may be, the fact still remains that for the time being it is slower than the other methods. Imagine in hotlapping, two equally fast drivers are doing the same combo. Both are using autoclutch, and have done a lap at the very edge of what is possible. The time difference between their laps is, lets say, 0.08s. Now the one that is 0.08s behind switches to macro/button clutch and instantly do a lap 0.3s-0.4s better. How is that not a huge advantage? And there is also the issue of more clutch wear when using autoclutch.

Zip the patch and then upload it? Or just name the file .patch.txt and let those who download it remove the .txt by renaming the file. Takes 5 seconds.

Quote from Jakg :

If your interested - most of the work the "tech guys" seem to do is install Norton and fix overheated PC's (i.e. the P4 that idled at 90° C and I watched as he spraid compressed air in (while it was on - oddly!) and the CPU temp dropped...)

I'm a "tech guy", and I mostly find myself uninstalling Norton, because of all the problems it causes. We sell HP and Fujitsu-Siemens computers, and a 60-day version of the crap is preloaded on every one. On the pr0n/warez issue, I just ignore it.

Quote from chanoman315 :

i think it works just the same as the macro... i'd guess that .3 slower than the macro... human reaction against pc reaction.
PC FTW?

Yes they both accomplish the same thing, while still being faster than autoclutch. If it's true they intentionally made autoclutch slower than manual clutching, then it's a real shame. I would think that the majority of drivers don't have a clutch axis available.

Quote from fujiwara :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... gRvyI&feature=related

Great show! Can't wait till the new season starts.

Thanks arrechee. I tried it but failed at mastering it. My fingers got very confused. But I can see someone more nimble-fingered being able to do it properly.

Quote from arrechee :

Hello,

Only two points:

.I dont use ilegal programs to gear box

.I can prove that i did not cheat.

No more complain and GO more fast in a HL

Hi,

Do you mind posting a short guide on how you do the manual shifting?
Just so we can compare it to the other methods.

Quote from RocksGt :

As far as I know he come back to LFS after some months focused on his karting races, he changed his old PC and he started testing new configurations, views, etc... so it's possible he started with autoclutch and then moved to clutch button if he found it quicker or better for controlling the car .

Which pretty much takes us to the point of what Glenn67 found with his testing. That there's a flaw in the autoclutch routine, and it is inferior to manual clutching.

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The only thing I know for sure is that he DO NOT use the macro. If anyone wants to accuse him for doing then he may show a better reason than LFS-World showing he uses button clutch and that he's beat a few WR's (he owns 3 at the moment).

I've known about arrechee for many years, and I know he is very fast, regardless of using autoclutch or not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to undermine his natural ability to go fast. We're just trying to get the devs to even out the obvious speed difference between the different shift methods. Making it fair for everyone.

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And the choice of hybrid in the UF1 it's very common, they heat faster and get better times by sliding the car a bit on the closed bendings

Yeah, but in the XRG? I tried it and the car was veeeery uncontrollable.

Quote from Glenn67 :

So you are making an assumption on wrong data...

So the hotlap analyzer on lfsworld is in reality useless? Well, maybe it isn't accurate down to a microscopic level, but I think it roughly shows the differences. Anyway, after reading about the tests you've done (which someone else obviously hasn't), I'm pretty much agreeing with your findings. As it is now, autoclutch seems to be at a clear disadvantage compared to the other methods.

Dude! I can say that because I have tested the macro myself, and experienced the mishift myself! And I know they are faster. No one is discreditting their fastness, dude! So don't come here telling me I'm talking shit. For ****s sake dude! Go try it yourself!

Quote from MaKaKaZo :

Donwload and play arrechee's WR for this combo (AS1 - UF1). You can see how many times there's a miss when he up-shifts. It was some weeks ago. I asked him directly and he told me that his old sidewinder (or whatever it is) wheel had the up-shift paddle a little broken and some times it won't make contact and the gear just won't kick in, so he has to keep pressing the clutch button and hitting the paddle until the paddle works. There's even a time when he shifts up involuntarily two gears because the paddle makes a double contact. Does the clutch macro generate that behaviour? I hope no one says now that this is macro clutch...

Yes, that's a known side effect of using macro.

Quote from RocksGt :

The reason for button clutch he gave was that he don't have a clutch pedal and he find manual clutching quicker than auto-clutch and, as far as I know, manual clutch via button it's not an unfair adavantage, isn't it?

In earlier patches you could shift manually using a button clutch. You could preselect a gear of choice, and then press the clutch to do the shift. That's not possible anymore, as far as I know. Looking at his earlier hotlaps he was using autoclutch, so this switch to not using it seems to have happened quite recently.

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Could you compare his graphs with ones from a person actually using the macro to see if there is a difference? I've read from some people that macro clutch it's not actually quicker than manual clutch but I don't even know if it's true...

Well, it's not easy finding someone that is 100% certain using macro, as they all deny it. But I think it's pretty certain that Pecholobo was using it, so I compared their hotlaps on AS1/UF1. If someone is using autoclutch, the graph would be at 100 on each shift. Here they are mostly faster than that.

There's a couple other things that I find strange. Like using hybrid tires all around and extremely strong brakes. Dunno what that's about...