I had a console excursion (PS3) for this gen, not played whole lot of games, now i'm having problems with it's cooling system, had two Ylod's, the little shi* screams like crazy in the summer, unplayable.
Now i'm thinking of switching back to PC again (i have to choose, can't afford both PS3 slim and a PC upgrade).
Is this the right call now? Slim would've cost me 250e maybe, and a PC upgrade 300, 350 (if i sell my curent components).
What are the pro's and con's of todays PC gaming?

Pros:
U can also do some useful stuff on PC
Cons:
It's easy to **** up Windows, but only if you are retarded so I think there are no cons actually

I would have thought the fact that you already have a PS3 would mean you don't need to buy a PS3 slim

Pros: you can actually aim in FPS games.

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I would have thought the fact that you already have a PS3 would mean you don't need to buy a PS3 slim

It will be unplayable the whole summer, and it's on the edge of another break down..

RTS, flying/racing sims, very few FPS that are fun like Red Orchestra, fear, quake.
For me those are the highlights of PC gaming beside it, its pretty boring platform.

Console and PC games have very different feel to them (not even speaking about graphics or controls) and I prefer the way console games feels, there is only few gaming genres on PC that are thriving so beside those games I mentioned I cant find anything fun to play on PC.

In the other hand, its payoffs to have good PC, 3D modelling, graphics, internet, movies, ability to learn and easy access to information PC really offer a lot beside gaming.
So buy yourself PS3 and slowly start raising money for new PC.

Consoles are Toyota Corollas.
Computers are Rolls Royces.

One is cheap, the other one isn't. Both get you to the destination, the other one just takes you there in luxury.

My guess is that if you liked BF3 on the console, you will probably love it on PC.

I play very few games these days. Recently, I've enjoyed BF3, Project Cars, Limbo, Legend of Grimrock- maybe one or two others. These are all great titles, some of the best games I've ever played, but I'm not sure how many of these are available for PS3.

Give it a go.

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Consoles are Toyota Corollas.
Computers are Rolls Royces.

One is cheap, the other one isn't. Both get you to the destination, the other one just takes you there in luxury.

Seriously I take AE86 over RR any day of the week...

Good job completely missing the point.

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good job completely missing the point.

+1

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Good job completely missing the point.

Corolla joke was totally messed up, unless you live in the 80's.

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Good job completely missing the point.

Nope, it is you who failed to make a fitting allegory.
AE86 is a cult car for many reasons but all you had to say about it is that is not luxurious enough.

Oh boy. Let me try to make it really simple so even you might comprehend it:

A Corolla (= console (Protip: not all Corollas are some AE86 mad drifto models, but more commonly cheap FWD buckets, which is where my point is at)) is a cheap car made for the common masses, who aren't really in to motoring and don't care for nice things that much as long as they get where they want to go. In gaming sense: simply have a quick game without caring if it's 30FPS limited, 720p or aim-assisted pad controls.

Now, a Rolls Royce (= PC) is for people who don't mind paying more to get their journey done with more comfort. In gaming sense: 60FPS, higher resolutions, AA, kb+mouse, etc.

The exact same comparison would work if you replaced Corolla with a Sunny or any cheap mainstream small car. Feel free to carry on with your idiotic AE86 argument if you wish. I'm pretty sure most of the readers understand the point of this comparison.

It completely depends on what are your needs.
And please leave all controller crap out of the talk, you can add a ps3/xbox 360 controller to pc, but you can't add mouse and kb to a console to play games.

Do you want to play expensive games with outdated graphics and low fps and resolution on a console, which expires soon, and you have to buy a new console to get all the new games.

Or.. Do you want to play games on a pc, where the graphics are better, games are moddable, and a new console generation comes out, you don't need to throw your current system out, you can just update it if needed.

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Oh boy. Let me try to make it really simple so even you might comprehend it:

More like "Oh boy someone picked up a flaws in my argumentations so lets insult his intelligence and hope no one notice how stupid is my reasoning"

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A Corolla (= console (Protip: not all Corollas are some AE86 mad drifto models, but more commonly cheap FWD buckets, which is where my point is at))

So what if not all are made into drift cars, AE86 is a cult car as it is.
But you picked up corolla which is a very wide range of car models and now what, you saying that you had in mind only specific models and its my fault I didnt guess which one exactly?

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The exact same comparison would work if you replaced Corolla with a Sunny or any cheap mainstream small car.

Look, its not my fault you dont see a difference between car line and a specific car model...

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Feel free to carry on with your idiotic AE86 argument if you wish.

Oh noes, my argumentation have more holes than a Swiss cheese I gotta do something and fast, I insulted his comprehensive capabilities already, oh I know, lets insult his reasoning instead

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I'm pretty sure most of the readers understand the point of this comparison.

I agree with you, people nowadays never try to understand the meaning behind the words, they just swallow everything without taking a minute to think about it.

Chupacabras84, Oh noes, nobody ****ing cares, so leave.

Bye!

Since PCs and gaming consoles aren't exactly substitutes it's sorta difficult to reasonably compare them, but IMHO the main differences from the gamer's point of view are:

PCs:
+ Wider games selection, 95 % of console games come to PC eventually and there's a lot of games that don't have a console version.
+ Considerably higher flexibility, a gaming-grade PC is suitable for almost any kind of workload.
+ (rather controversial) It's much easier to pirate games on PC.

Consoles:
+ Great optimization of all titles. Devs cannot use the "get a faster machine" excuse plus the uniform hardware makes fine-tuning simpler.
+ (Almost) no hassle with security patches, drivers updates, viruses etc.
+ Cheaper to buy and run, you don't need to buy a new GPU for a console every year and throw it away after 3 years to be able to play the hottest titles.

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Oh noes, nobody ****ing cares, so leave.
Bye!

"Oh look I made a troll account so I can troll and insult people without staining my forum reputation"
bye!

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Since PCs and gaming consoles aren't exactly substitutes it's sorta difficult to reasonably compare them

true in my case both are complementing each other.

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95 % of console games come to PC eventually

Where did you get that info? As I know its simply not true.

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+ (Almost) no hassle with security patches, drivers updates

Again would disagree with you, GT5 giant patch and monster install, plus if something goes wrong during firmware update (Which are frequent) you cant fix it yourself like you would do with PC and sony service is not the quickest.

Yes, i'm trolling so hard at the moment, creating senseless OT and stuff, whining over some stupid car model etc. damn I'm a troll, it would be a shame if anyone would find out my true identity.

@MadCatX
PC games are also often much cheaper to buy aswell, even at launch. So even if one buys a PC, the higher initial hardware cost tends to balance out because the games are cheaper. Not to mention, consoles are locked to a single digital distribution platform by the manufacturer, whereas PC has several = healthy competition, lower game prices!

@Chupacabras84
For the love of god, grow up and stop trying to start pointless offtopic arguments.

One of the only things I can think of on the top of my head right now is the Steam Sales.

Oh and Amazon is having a nice sale too.

Here's a pretty comprehensive list for the Steam Sale. There is a link to the cheaper Amazon options within the list.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming ... ay_04_20120715_cities_xl/

Another thing is that if you buy a fast computer, you could use it's processing power to do CAD, 3D, batch photo editing, or video editing and effects pretty quickly. If that's your sort of thing.

Lastly, emulators. I didn't think I would play older games but I was interested in Chrono Trigger since I heard so many good things about it. I've been hooked for a while now.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Mods. Minecraft mods. DayZ for Arma II. 'Nuff said.

A new computer though, is obviously more expensive than a console. That doesn't mean going cheap is terrible though because Tom's Hardware has a system building marathon every quarter that shows what you can build for budgets ranging from $500 to $2000. And yes they benchmark them. Considering that the PS3 and Xbox run Battlefield 3 at 1280 x 720 at some lowered setting and this quarter's $500 PC can do 1280 x 1024 at Ultra quality running near 60 fps, I think a cheap PC can do really well in fact.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re ... w-To,4/Build-Your-Own,16/

Now I'll make some arguments against the PC.
- It is more expensive than a console.
- You can't really sell your games back. (edit: Kid222 says the EU might have allowed software reselling, lucky you. The US, nope.)
- Component failure is a pain in the ass to track down, though in that regard, if something fails on the console, you don't have many options.
- Potential for viruses and malware.
- Internet. Porn. Youtube. Your productivity goes way down.
- System slowdown. Eventually your computer slows down due to things like fragmented hard drives, additional clutter, dust preventing your computer from going faster without torching itself, etc. Got to keep it maintained like a car.
- Ease of use due to component difference over many PCs. Sometimes games don't work and you don't know why. Some games are hard to configure to run smoothly. Some games run better on a specific brand of hardware than others, and sometimes on different firmware despite the same brand.
- Updates. Windows updates, firmware updates. A sometimes necessary annoyance.
- I can't think of anything else.

Oh and here's a grey area: Piracy. It's good for some people in the sense that they can try before they buy (after all, who wants to spend a good chunk of money on a game they don't like?). It's also good for others in the sense that they don't have to pay a cent to play (shame on you if you do that). Piracy however drives these bigger companies insane in that they will screw over everyone to make sure that you play a legitimate copy (despite pirates circumventing those methods). A few examples are Diablo 3 and Assassins Creed (and a few others) requiring persistent Internet connection to play fully. Also some games are console only due to fear of piracy. One great example is Red Dead Redemption. Really really good game, but it's sad that it's a console exclusive.

Matrixi, It's told that console games are more expensive since people sell them second hand after they've played enough of it, and developers wont get their money then, but when next gen consoles are told not to support second-hand games, then I doubt that the prices for the games will drop.

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Matrixi, It's told that console games are more expensive since people sell them second hand after they've played enough of it, and developers wont get their money then, but when next gen consoles are told not to support second-hand games, then I doubt that the prices for the games will drop.

This is true, however console games are already battling used sales by bundling DLC at launch. As an example, Forza gave you some extra cars when you use a DLC code that the game ships with. Buy the game used and you'd have to buy those extra cars as DLC, and therefore paying the publisher/devs that way. It's not ideal, but I guess it's better than nothing.

All in all, used game sales on consoles is a shitty situation with no easy answer how to solve it. Even so, I think it's been blown out of propotion a bit. Since consoles aren't plagued with piracy as badly as PC, I reckon the publishers are trying to blame the used sales being more evil than they really are, just to bump the game prices a bit higher.

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Seriously I take AE86 over RR any day of the week...

Stop being mainstream. You got the point well enough.