sorry for double post, but here is the whole almost 6 hour long conversation/arguement...
its too long, so its cut at a part somewhere in the middle maybe..
Erin DeRosa 11:23 pm
if you tell me I will tell you
tortoratortora 11:24 pm
i dont nessesarilly wanna know...i have probably already heard it :/
Erin DeRosa 11:25 pm
no you havent just. say. it
tortoratortora 11:25 pm
i guerantee i have
and you got me mad, and now im not really mad, so i have no reason to say it at all now.
Erin DeRosa 11:25 pm
I KNOW you havent just say it chris
Erin DeRosa 11:26 pm
and howd I get you mad?
tortoratortora 11:26 pm
i was going to say you were acting bitchy...dont hold that against me..i diddnt say it, diddnt wanna say it, and no longer wanna
Erin DeRosa 11:27 pm
of course I was! you would too
tortoratortora 11:28 pm
i would what?
Erin DeRosa 11:29 pm
act like a bitch too if you found out I liked an 18 year old guy who lives in aother state WHILE we were still together..
tortoratortora 11:30 pm
no i really probably wouldnt...i know and understand you cant control your feelings. and i decided we should be friends BEFORE i
liked her
Erin DeRosa 11:32 pm
yeah, but you never told me that, so thats why I was so mad... I never knew we were just gonna be friends before you liked her..
tortoratortora 11:32 pm
what do you mean i never told you that? and told you what?
Erin DeRosa 11:32 pm
what?
tortoratortora 11:33 pm
what did i never tell you? and what do you mean?
Erin DeRosa 11:35 pm
you never told me you just wanted to be friends before you liked her, so liking her while we were still going out, regardless of your decision to become
friends, without telling me, was wrong..
tortoratortora 11:36 pm
i wanted to break up, but i also said i would do it in person...i never got the chance. and saying i wanna become friends=breakup
Erin DeRosa 11:37 pm
yes but you still liked someone while we were together and that pissed me off.. im sure you'd be mad too
tortoratortora 11:39 pm
i understand why you are mad. nobody can control their feelings, so how was i suppossed to deal with that
Erin DeRosa 11:39 pm
yes they can.. does she like you
tortoratortora 11:40 pm
well i cant. you can trick yourself into believing one thing, but you will feel the same.
and ya
Erin DeRosa 11:41 pm
Cvbjmlwtf
tortoratortora 11:42 pm
what?
Erin DeRosa 11:47 pm
nothing -_-
tortoratortora 11:47 pm
what..?
Erin DeRosa 11:47 pm
nothing.
tortoratortora 11:47 pm
ok..
Erin DeRosa 11:49 pm
-_-
tortoratortora 11:50 pm
what are you doing.
Erin DeRosa 11:50 pm
venting to someone who actually cares
tortoratortora 11:50 pm
i care.
who
Erin DeRosa 11:51 pm
no you dont. you dont gve two shits
tortoratortora 11:51 pm
yes i do, where do you get this idea..?
Erin DeRosa 11:52 pm
the way you talk to me and treat me
tortoratortora 11:53 pm
what are you talking about! i talk to you like i talk to everybody, i am bad with my words..what do you want from me.
i treated you as good as i could..bought you everything you wanted
took care of your needs your wants
Erin DeRosa 11:55 pm
you THINK you did, and I let you think so because I didnt want you to feel bad... but honestly you didnt
tortoratortora 11:56 pm
honestly i diddnt what exactly.
Erin DeRosa 11:59 pm
you didnt take care of me to the best of your abilities, and you didnt give me what I needed.. and what I needed was to be happy with what we had and the
way you made me feel and the tthings you said made me feel like just the opposite
tortoratortora 12:00 am
well im sorry for that..i helped as much as i coud.
so you basically were never happy?
Erin DeRosa 12:03 am
I was at first.. but then you changed
tortoratortora 12:05 am
when was this...or did you realise it after i was a ****ing retarded prick of a ****ing person.
Erin DeRosa 12:06 am
youre not a prick or anything chris why would you say that?
tortoratortora 12:07 am
cause im a ****ing faggot
its pretty obvious. i cant make anybody happy. everything i cant control hurts me.**** IT
Erin DeRosa 12:08 am
and idk exactly when it was.. I just stopped beng happy after a while
tortoratortora 12:08 am
me=fail at life
Erin DeRosa 12:08 am
chris dont say that please.. youre gonna make me cry.. wait I already am
tortoratortora 12:08 am
another thing messed up.
Erin DeRosa 12:09 am
no you dont chris
whats that other thing..?
Erin DeRosa 12:10 am
btw your little girlfrend likes you -_- congrats I wish you guys the worst
tortoratortora 12:10 am
what dont i?
and what other thing..?
and understandable.
Erin DeRosa 12:11 am
you dont fail at life, but this friendship is already failing
tortoratortora 12:12 am
oh i fail at life...i let this friendship fail.
Erin DeRosa 12:12 am
thats no life.. its just me, and you dont care about me or my feelings anyways so its a win-wn for you :D
tortoratortora 12:14 am
i.care.about.you.and.your.feelings..i.still.care.about.you.more.then.any.other.friend.but.we.arent.right.for.a.relationship.
Erin DeRosa 12:15 am
why not?
tortoratortora 12:15 am
cause we spent the past 3 months and we both thought the same thing in the end.
Erin DeRosa 12:17 am
spent the last 3 months what?
tortoratortora 12:17 am
going out and seeing how compatable we were. toward the end we both (you admitted) felt we should be friends.
Erin DeRosa 12:21 am
I didnt say that.. I said I thought we should break up. and what about compatible? and what exactly do you in tasha have in common? you said "me and tas
ha have ALOT in common"
tortoratortora 12:23 am
break up, and that means you diddnt wanna be friends? at all? :(
we were going out for 3 months to see if we were compatable,,?
Erin DeRosa 12:24 am
I did, but honestly now im not sure.. I need to talk to you in person -_-
tortoratortora 12:25 am
the ONLY reason we wouldnt become friends is for relationship related things. we are done dating. so that shouldnt matter anymore
how did this convo turn so frieken mean
Erin DeRosa 12:26 am
cus you treat me like im nothing to you and thats not the only reason
tortoratortora 12:27 am
give an example.
Erin DeRosa 12:28 am
the way you make me feel
tortoratortora 12:29 am
i was convinced you were happy. i diddnt know to change. and thats not an example
Erin DeRosa 12:31 am
yes it is.. and even if you disclaim that, I still feel crapy when you talk to me honestly
tortoratortora 12:36 am
well take some time, when you are ready to become friends; work this out, discuss, make me feel like even more of a (insert extre
mely offensive word here) then text, or facebook, or whatever me.
or we can try to work it out here...
Erin DeRosa 12:39 am
I really want it to work.. and ve calmed down a ton, but I still need to talk in person to get al of my feelings out and explain better
tortoratortora 12:40 am
i REALLY want it to work, as friends obviously. and in person idk how that will work..picture us talking about the same things
i just picture me saying the wrong thing, as usual cause im dumb, you getting pissed...and me just cowering in the corner.
Erin DeRosa 12:41 am
I wont flip out on you I promise
tortoratortora 12:41 am
ok, we just need to find a way to meet
cause connor told his grandmother who told his mom who told my mom, who is expecting the next time i go over to be a breakup..
so next week will be the best cause i dont feel like cramming in stuff
Erin DeRosa 12:44 am
okay..
tortoratortora 12:44 am
normal conversation, or goodnight?
Erin DeRosa 12:46 am
what?
tortoratortora 12:46 am
do you want to have a normal conversation, or just call it goodnight?
Erin DeRosa 12:47 am
well if you wanna go to bed goodnight, but if not thats fine too
tortoratortora 12:48 am
i dont really, do you?
Erin DeRosa 12:49 am
nope im still talking to a few other ppl anyways
tortoratortora 12:49 am
ok
Erin DeRosa 12:51 am
pooooooop your girlfriend is mean to me.. glad you like her :[
tortoratortora 12:52 am
:(
first off she isnt my girlfriend.
second is she just defending herself?
Erin DeRosa 12:54 am
soon to be girlfriend* same thng.. and she stopped talking after I told her... nvm
tortoratortora 12:55 am
not nessesarily...and what did you say..:d
:x *
Erin DeRosa 12:55 am
nothing its mean to you kinda :+
tortoratortora 12:57 am
dont care anymore, i have heard so much tonight getting told "goe die in a hole you dumb little ****er with no life" wont phaseme
Erin DeRosa 12:59 am
I would never say that o_o EVER and she shut up after I told her she was getting my sloppy seconds :x I cant help but laugh at her.. x]
tortoratortora 1:01 am
play nice O_O
Erin DeRosa 1:03 am
well, I shut that bitch up so now I dont have to play at all :D ugly whore..
tortoratortora 1:04 am
*allows her to vent*
but to clarify she is a virgin :x
Erin DeRosa 1:05 am
uh.. I didnt say she wasnt dont get me mad
Erin DeRosa 1:06 am
and obviously she is.. shes an ugly bitch with an also ugly body
tortoratortora 1:08 am
sorry trying to reach understanding between everyone..(and isnt whore someone who has sex alot?)
and looks arent everything even
though your pretty
Erin DeRosa 1:09 am
yeah I know.. but they do count a LITTLE at least you cant deny that
tortoratortora 1:09 am
ya they do, but her pictures kinda suck on fb :X
Erin DeRosa 1:10 am
her face sucks ayways -_-
tortoratortora 1:11 am
what are you doing?
Erin DeRosa 1:12 am
change the subject? cus you know it true :D good work chris, you nabbed a keeper :] *ahem*
tortoratortora 1:13 am
im trying not to argue, and i think her face is perfectly fine.
Erin DeRosa 1:15 am
haha funny :] whos is better be honest
tortoratortora 1:16 am
im not going to if you are going to make this a big deal either way.
Erin DeRosa 1:17 am
I wont say anything I promise. ill change the convo either way
tortoratortora 1:18 am
everyone has their good aspects, and everyone has their bad. hows that.
Erin DeRosa 1:19 am
doesnt answer my question
tortoratortora 1:19 am
sorry :/
Erin DeRosa 1:20 am
so you think shes better looking than me?"
tortoratortora 1:20 am
when did i say that
Erin DeRosa 1:21 am
youre avoiding saying it
tortoratortora 1:22 am
your clearly manipulating me into saying what i think.
Erin DeRosa 1:22 am
sorry.. I just want to know
tortoratortora 1:24 am
dont be sorry...but i know if you and her get into another arguement that info will make it worse
Erin DeRosa 1:25 am
I refuse to talk to her again so you dont have to worry about that please tell me :[
tortoratortora 1:25 am
give me a few reasons
Erin DeRosa 1:26 am
reasons for what?
tortoratortora 1:26 am
to tell you.
Erin DeRosa 1:27 am
because its part of being friends, you tell each other things; you just have to trust me thats all I can say.. And I give you my word I wont use anything
against anyone
tortoratortora 1:29 am
you wont even think about saying anything to anybody
Erin DeRosa 1:29 am
exactly :]
tortoratortora 1:29 am
not in arguements, not against me, not against, you, not against tasha..
Erin DeRosa 1:30 am
not to you or tasha I promise
bitc*
tortoratortora 1:30 am
what about the rest...and she has a name.
Erin DeRosa 1:31 am
whats the rest again :o and yeah but I dont care :/
tortoratortora 1:31 am
not in arguements, not against me, not against, you, not against tasha..
Erin DeRosa 1:32 am
it doesnt help clarify if you resend wat I was origionally confused about -_- x]
tortoratortora 1:32 am
you said you forgot the rest, so i resent so you could see :x
Erin DeRosa 1:33 am
it doesnt make sense.. reread it :x maybe its just me but idk
tortoratortora 1:33 am
dont use it or think about it in any arguements with anyone, dont use it against me, against tasha, against you, against anybody.
Erin DeRosa 1:34 am
I cant say I wont think about it during arguments I cant help what pops into mind, but everything else yes
tortoratortora 1:36 am
good enough. x)
you are very pretty..everyone who knows you agrees.
tasha in my eyes is pretty..nobody has to agree, i tend to
have a different taste anyways.
Erin DeRosa 1:37 am
doesnt answer my question, you cant prove everyone who knows me agrees :/ and believe me, I tend to go for people who arent, according to evryone else, H
OT, so I know where youre coming from
tortoratortora 1:40 am
i dont really know the answer to your question honestly :o
and chelsea, and athena both REALLY insisted that you were pretty at
my school..and they were the only ones who could..and i did too btw
Erin DeRosa 1:40 am
how do you not know -_- and who were they trying to convice..?
tortoratortora 1:44 am
its like comparing apples to oranges...even though i know you dont like oranges...you get the point though :X
and all the people
who thought you were ugly, cause im an ugly pig, and i attract ugly people..
Erin DeRosa 1:46 am
I cant say I really understand.. and if they didnt see me they should stfu.. and youre not ugly, and if you think im pretty you obv dont attract ugly peo
ple. well... besides *ahem* nvm :x
tortoratortora 1:48 am
you both look good in your own ways..
Erin DeRosa 1:50 am
why wont you just answer the question? I promised all of that to get nothing in return? thanks chris, good start on this friendship..
tortoratortora 1:52 am
i told you the truth...i thinnk you are both pretty in your own way
and can you stop blackmailing me :(
Erin DeRosa 1:54 am
chris im not blackmailing you -_- I would be threatening you.. and im not and I wouldnt, im just insisting you answer me because you havent answered the
main question,wich you said you would if I promised you that, and you havent, so that proves my word means nothing to you no matter what I say I guess..
tortoratortora 1:57 am
well blackmail is the wrong word...and i kept my promise. i told you the truth, and i cant decide who is prettier.
take two of
your favorite foods, decide what one you would rather have the rest of your life.
not so easy is it?
Erin DeRosa 1:58 am
okay chicken and hmmm... idk chocolate. chicken fer sher. not hard at all, and its not the same.. and I honestly feel insulted
tortoratortora 1:59 am
well then two foods you cant stand, what one would you rather take for the rest of your life...idk i cant think of an example...i
can make something up real quick, on what i was thinking before i thought of it
Erin DeRosa 2:00 am
what
tortoratortora 2:01 am
nevermind my poor example..but would you want me to just say what i was thinking before i actually put thought into it
Erin DeRosa 2:01 am
About food or me and ew?
tortoratortora 2:02 am
you and tasha
Erin DeRosa 2:02 am
sure
tortoratortora 2:03 am
i thought you were prettier.
Erin DeRosa 2:03 am
and now you dont?
tortoratortora 2:04 am
now i think you are both equally
Erin DeRosa 2:05 am
.........
xO~~~~~
tortoratortora 2:05 am
what? :x
Erin DeRosa 2:07 am
i.. feel disgusted and insulted and ugly :/
tortoratortora 2:09 am
why cause you both have a different look to you and a difrent way of being pretty?
if you dont like the way she looks, know you look nothing alike
tortoratortora 2:09 am
you said you dont like girls, so why should she be the exception and she look good compared to every other girl in your eyes
Erin DeRosa 2:10 am
what
tortoratortora 2:11 am
you are both pretty in different ways. you dont look anything alike. you arent attracted to girls anyways, so why should she be
an exception
Erin DeRosa 2:11 am
I dont see what youre saying
tortoratortora 2:12 am
what part.
Erin DeRosa 2:13 am
what you were saying about me and girls and whatever
tortoratortora 2:14 am
you say you arent attracted to girls...so that means you never think they look good. so why would you think you would think tasha
looks good
Erin DeRosa 2:18 am
I never said I wasnt attracted to girls first of all, I said I didnt like MOST of them, meaning their personalities.. so dont assume shit about what I th
ink or believe, and what I believe, is that she has an ugly personality and idk if youve seen that side of her, and to go along with her ugly personality
, she has an ugly body and face to go with it
tortoratortora 2:19 am
i thought you said you werent :x
and you really dont know her. she has fight in her like you. and you havent seen her in person.
Erin DeRosa 2:25 am
well I didnt :/ and that brings me to somthing I havent told anyone but 2 other people.. which I wont say. and is that good? and I really dont want to pu
t my eyes through that torture so whatever
tortoratortora 2:27 am
well sorry :(
and i bet its something negative about me anyways...and it can be good...
Erin DeRosa 2:29 am
its about me, and its really personal, and revealing, and possibly embarassing and could be used against me only by someone who is a completely ignorant
**** who has no concern for other peoples feelings whatsoever, so unless youre that person, I might tell you
tortoratortora 2:30 am
that isnt me at all.
Erin DeRosa 2:30 am
okay good, then we can be friends and I can trust you
tortoratortora 2:31 am
we can be legitimate friends with no more argueing. (or minimal)
and i never stopped trusting you :P
Erin DeRosa 2:33 am
good, and I never did either, but I dont really feel like I trust you enough to tell you absolutely everything.. not in a bad way, I trust you more than
I trust some people ive known for over two years.. just not completely, but close to it
tortoratortora 2:34 am
i have told you everything../_/
._.*
Erin DeRosa 2:35 am
really? I dont know if I believe you.. but alright. and as have i, except that one thing about me but you dont need to know
tortoratortora 2:36 am
i pretty much have..
Erin DeRosa 2:36 am
so what havent you told me
tortoratortora 2:39 am
nothing i can think of...i might have told you absolutely everything
Erin DeRosa 2:40 am
you sure
tortoratortora 2:40 am
anything you can think of i havent told you
Erin DeRosa 2:41 am
did you cheat
tortoratortora 2:41 am
no i did not
Erin DeRosa 2:42 am
positive?
tortoratortora 2:42 am
completely positive.
Erin DeRosa 2:43 am
are you talking to someone else right now?
tortoratortora 2:44 am
why yes i am
why
Erin DeRosa 2:44 am
who
tortoratortora 2:46 am
i dont see why it matters, but tasha.
your probably talking to other people too
Erin DeRosa 2:47 am
im actually not thanks for the f.. the assumption. and youre not talking to me again thats why I asked.
tortoratortora 2:49 am
what do you mean? i am answering your questions straight up, nothing else but the answer
Erin DeRosa 2:50 am
I mean youre taking forever to answer and it makes me think you dont care
tortoratortora 2:54 am
i completely care, but i have to think about every answer i say to you..cause i say the wrong thing and you get mad at me..includ
ing this answer
Erin DeRosa 2:59 am
again with assuming.. im not mad, I just get mad wen you ignore me like this, because obvioulsy she means more to you than me and you can just move on li
ke that like a dick, and if youre gonna ignore me and talk to her then **** you.. you ruined everything we ever had and would have had, if you dont care
then **** it. why bother? you really meant something to me chris and you continue to treat me like shit because you like someone else ALREADY and you cho
ose to ignore me. if I dont mean anything to you, dont respond. if I do, youre lucky if forgive you. ive never felt like such a piece of shit due to how
someone has treated me before... I hope you feel good about yourself
tortoratortora 3:01 am
i dont see what i have done...i have talked to another person. i care about you still erin.
Erin DeRosa 3:01 am
really? well you dont show it in any way, so how the **** do you expect me to believe you
tortoratortora 3:02 am
how dont i show it, one at a time so i can answer thoroughly
Erin DeRosa 3:02 am
every way possible
tortoratortora 3:03 am
example?
Erin DeRosa 3:04 am
you ignore me when im trying to have a deep, serious conversation with you to talk to other people all the ****ing time
tortoratortora 3:05 am
i havent ignored you, i do talk to other people, just because i try to stay social.
i also might take a while to respond because
im bad with my words and have to think of a way to say what i mean
Erin DeRosa 3:07 am
stay social some other time when im not emotionally ****ed up alright? and just say exactly what comes to mind dont make it sound less mean, I can take it
tortoratortora 3:08 am
alright sorry :/
and i say what comes to mind, just i have to think how to say it and what words to use..call me retarded if you
want
Erin DeRosa 3:09 am
I dont want to and idk why you keep insisting I call you names -_- im pretty sure I could and would do that if I wanted to, but I care enough not to
btw I hate that word so if you would be so kind as not to use it that would be great
tortoratortora 3:10 am
well thats how your making me feel..and yeah thats fine.
Erin DeRosa 3:11 am
how am I making you feel like that? if anything you should feel guilty for making me feel so horrible
tortoratortora 3:11 am
i feel extremely guilty
Erin DeRosa 3:12 am
as you damn well should. but wy do you feel like a r.....?
tortoratortora 3:13 am
cause i have to think of the words i use for pretty much every text/IM i write
tortoratortora 3:13 am
and that takes half the time
Erin DeRosa 3:15 am
why do you need to think of words to use just say it. and that shouldnt make you feel that way, and its not my fault, im not the one making you process y
our words you choose to do that on your own
tortoratortora 3:16 am
i know, but i have to think of the word that dictates what i have in my head. like i paused at dictates and thought for like 20
seconds what word means something like that
Erin DeRosa 3:17 am
thats fine.. why is that such a big deal? and whyd you blame me?
tortoratortora 3:17 am
it just sucks being caught and picking the closest word you can think of
tortoratortora 3:18 am
and that might be part of the reason it is taking so long...i pause a few times a paragraph ._.
Erin DeRosa 3:18 am
not like im gonna judge yoou if you use the wrong word
tortoratortora 3:18 am
but it will get the wrong point across...
Erin DeRosa 3:19 am
same here, but before you took literally like 5 minutes -_-
not necessarily
tortoratortora 3:19 am
5 minutes? well im online and using AIM so there is no vibrate..
Erin DeRosa 3:21 am
yeah, but its right in front of your face and youre only talking to one other person, whose convo is friggin attatched to this one -_-
tortoratortora 3:21 am
yeah im taking just as long on the other convo, and you are on the screen on the bottom if you rememer how it is serup
setup*
Erin DeRosa 3:22 am
so that makes it even easier -_-
tortoratortora 3:22 am
its blocked by my wheel
Erin DeRosa 3:23 am
not really
tortoratortora 3:23 am
have you actually metally looked at the second screen to see the visibility
Erin DeRosa 3:24 am
metally? and it looks fine I dont see your point
tortoratortora 3:24 am
mentally* and it isnt really easy to see or eye catching
Erin DeRosa 3:25 am
its not even blocked that much chris..
tortoratortora 3:26 am
id take a picture and show you from my head's view, but it kinda is and it is not where my eyes are looking.
Erin DeRosa 3:27 am
sooo your eyes arent looking so you dont care to see whats there, right?
tortoratortora 3:29 am
ok so i have a blank screen with a new message once every 2 minutes, and i have my internet browser with about 240,000,000 sites.
what one will attract my eyes more
Erin DeRosa 3:31 am
your logic makes no sense.. but whatever I dont really care about the time it takes its no big deal
tortoratortora 3:31 am
i know your just saying that..but what were you saying way before this depbate?
debate*
Erin DeRosa 3:32 am
I dont remember
tortoratortora 3:34 am
when you first brought up if i was talking to someone else i was instantly responding..the largest time gap i could find is 3 min
around when i let eve out and went to the bathroom.
Erin DeRosa 3:35 am
I just said whatever, so why do you need to bring up past aguments? -_-
tortoratortora 3:36 am
i was looking up what we were talking about...and i just happened to look
Erin DeRosa 3:36 am
okay so what were we talking about
tortoratortora 3:37 am
you were asking if i cheated, i said no, then you asked if i was talking to other people
Erin DeRosa 3:37 am
k
tortoratortora 3:37 am
so are you going to continue with wherever you were going??
Erin DeRosa 3:38 am
theres nowhere to go with that
tortoratortora 3:39 am
you werent going anywhere..
Erin DeRosa 3:40 am
uh, I just said that.. so obviously not
tortoratortora 3:40 am
i was making sure you arent unsure about it..cause im willing to fix any negative thoughts..
Erin DeRosa 3:43 am
when im in this horrible of a mood, which is very rarely, you cant say ANYTHING that will change how im feeling or what im thinking.
tortoratortora 3:43 am
so would it help if i gave it a few days before we tried to even think about working stuff out..
Erin DeRosa 3:44 am
not at all that would be for the worst. its confusing I know but roll with it
tortoratortora 3:45 am
ok so what now?
Erin DeRosa 3:47 am
now, im going to bed. you know im not online alot so use this to talk to me again sometime tomorrow if you dont get your phone back. make sure youre eiet
her not talking to ayone else, or youre gonna step it up and actually be involved in a conversation for once. sorry for being a bitch. goodnight
tortoratortora 3:49 am
i might get my phone back but probably not..i understand, goodnight.its too long, so its cut at a part somewhere in the middle maybe..
