Hmmm, that all sounds fine and dandy, apart from one problem. I spend most of the day coding/drawing when I am actually writing games. Playing the games is supposed to be the leisure activity, so I certainly don't want to have to learn another scripting language, just because the programme can't/doesn't want to, manage controller presets.

I'm not overly concerned about car X has paddles, therefore you must use paddles to be realistic etc... I have a wheel with paddles and some pedals, or a 360 controller with triggers. If I get round to it, I have an H-Shifter too that I might use. This is enjoyable escapism for me, from the pressures of game development... not a relentless pursuit of real life accuracy.

Just as a thought, if it did that (have controller presets), you wouldn't need all the complex scripting, as you could simply assign a controller config to a car (if you needed to). I'll investigate the .con file option as a first port of call, that seems less troublesome to set up.

I must confess, after spending a few days now with LFS, the simulation aspect is very good, the graphics are not too bad... but the interface and general game management, isn't so hot. I'm guessing the programmer was the designer, especially based on the scripting stuff being present.

You tend to learn over many years of game development, that even the smallest minority are still a paying minority, and you should make an effort to cater for them, however pointless it may seem to the majority.

Unfortunately, simulations have a bad habit of harbouring elitism with certain aspects (especially controllers) and you can end up with the "my way or the highway" attitude being prevalent. I don't know if that is the case with LFS, I'm hoping it isn't.

Thanks for the info, it is appreciated... I'll do some more investigation.

Quote from John5200 :

very nice render but the car is a loooot to big.

Actually, it looks like a wide angle lens which exaggerates perspective on anything close to the lens, making it look bigger. Have a look for some images taken with lenses around the 23mm mark. Anything less and you're into fish-eye territory and then you're really talking distorted perspective.

Based on the size of the bricks in the footpath (which are usually about 3 - 4 inches, 7.5 - 10 cm) the car doesn't look oversized, in fact, maybe a little small if you count the number of bricks on the floor from front to back.

I have just purchased a 3DConnexion SpaceExplorer and it appears LFS wrongly detects it as a controller. In my control panel, under game controllers, I have my 360 controller and my Porsche Wheel (connected by wireless, not USB, so the pedals are not a separate device). Yet in LFS, it says 3 controllers detected.

The result of this, is that all the controls are messed up and my wheel now seems to be constantly shaking when I am moving... which didn't happen before I plugged in my SpaceExplorer.

Is there any way to force LFS to only use controllers that the system designates as "Game Controllers" and not ones LFS thinks might be Game Controllers?

Edit: I managed to disable my device, I'll figure out the shaking problem later.

For anyone else who has a troublesome device, here's what I did. Run DXDiag and see if the device is listed there under "Input". If it is, make a note of the deviceID. The go into Device Manager and go through the HID Devices until you find the matching deviceID. Then disable that device to stop it causing the problem. Obviously, if you need the device active, then you have a problem. Fortunately, I dual boot and my SpaceExplorer isn't needed where my games are.

Last edited by Lee Turbo, Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:43. Reason : Found the solution myself.

I've just set one up myself... which part are you having problems with?

Quote from yanni6556 :

How did you get the clutch working? I have the turbo and cannot get it to work

I have it set to use Axis 9 (Y Axis), I am using the ClubSport pedals, but that shouldn't make any difference.

I haven't got the H-Shifter fitted, but if I go out onto the track and depress the clutch, the car doesn't move when I hit the accelerator... so it seems to be working as it should.

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Delta Integrale, Celica ST165 GT4, '86 Corolla, 86-87 Merc 190E, 86-87 M3.

'98 Nissan Cube... my point was, age doesn't determine the shape.

I was searching for some mention of this, but the only threads seem to be from 2006.

When I am playing with people using a pad, then I want to be able to choose pad controls. When I am playing solo, or eventually online (when I get enough practice), I will be using wheel & pedals. I don't want to have to go through the whole process of reassigning buttons and axes every time I change controllers though.

In rFactor for instance, it has controller presets that you can simply switch between from the menu. Has this been considered for LFS?

Or even if the game stored the control settings in a config file externally, people could write a simple batch file to switch between cfg files at launch.

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Meh, modern rounded edges look incredibly bland to me

You mean modern as in Austin Healey Sprite, AC Cobra, '58 Vette, E-Type Jag? ;D Give me classic, rounded and chromed... it's why I love GTL.

Keep liking the boxey and we'll end up with Moskvitch Turbo Racing, and you don't want that... do you?

I'm a strong believer in leaving camera effects to camera views. Lens Flare and DOF don't belong in first person views.

Make sure you set the Throttle/Brake to be "Separate", not "Combined" in the axis settings, otherwise, they share the same axis. I had the same problem setting up my CS pedals.

I am using the Porsche Turbo S wheel with LFS with no problems. I am only using the paddles though, so I don't know if that makes any difference. But when I shut down LFS, next time I come back, all my settings are still there.

The only thing I can offer is that I see the "Gear" option is in 2 places. You can set it in the Driver settings, and in the Control settings. Do you have it set to H-Shifter in both places?

If you want any info for comparison, let me know.