Quote from lawdog :

Do you have Bob Smith's Setup Analyzer/Project 3? If not download it here. It has an awesome feature for setting damping, which shows you the effects of your damping changes, and you should be able to play around and get it set so that it will oversteer a tad on corner entry while reducing braking, but be neutral on corner exit while increasing throttle. Of course, you still have to try those changes out in the game, but this program has taught me tons about setting up cars.

Quite a nice program indeed!

I started to use that one 1 week ago... And with that, my setup it´s just 100 times better then it was (I´ve done a 1:43.00 in AS National with the XRR, and I still think that this number will decrease a bit - And 10 straight laps Below 1:44.00 in Cone Dodgers server).

I´ve setup the absorvers to have a oversteer bound effect and a understeer rebound effect, so when I start to brake to enter in a tight corner (with the correct brake balance - 76% and 1900 Nm) the car don´t even start a spin move, and at the corner exit I go with full throttle now... Just as I needed!

PS.: Tonight I´ll reply this post with the setup for who want to give I try...

First of all, thanks for mrodgers/lawdog/evilgeek/HVS5b by giving me those tips, i´m getting real nice PB with that (actually 1:43.20, and with some improvements I´m sure that this number can decrease a bit)

Quote from lawdog :

I'm by no means the fastest cat on ASNat in the XRR, but I have tried a lot of sets, and 2000 Nm seems a tad high. Even on my G25, which has a pretty stiff brake pedal (by racing wheel standards), I find myself locking up too often using that much force. I've seen some fast sets using just over 1650, and never seen one over 1800. With 2000 Nm, you're only going to be able to use full deflection getting into turn one (where you aren't on the brakes very long), and at the very beginning of the braking zone for the hard left hander. Especially with the bias that far forward, you're making it extremely difficult on yourself to avoid locking a front wheel or two.

Correct, I´m using 1950 Nm now (a little bit less then the inferno set) and for braking balance (that was used 74%) a little change of 2% (76%) gave me the correct distribuction at the end. Little adjustments in my foot weight helped too

Quote from lawdog :

One other thing to bring up that factors into braking distance--what are your differential settings? While preposterously unrealistic, I find that using the locked diff* helps braking distances when coming down through the gears. While you may not want to use one as it presents other difficulties, tightening up your LSD on the coast side might help you shave a few meters off your stopping distances.

The locked diff* is helping me out to brake faster than I was braking before... braking in 100m with no problem!

Quote from lawdog :

Oh, and you know that 30 Kg Scawen makes you lug around in the XRR? You can put that whereever you want (under the "Info" tab in the setup screen). Shoving it towards the rear of the car makes the XRR's F/R weight distribution more equal, and seems to help with braking. So try playing with that as well.

Will try that!! But 30 kg is a big weight loss for this car...

Quote from evilgeek :

if you find that even with the major factors sorted you still can't get enough braking out of the rear tires, you might consider increasing your rear rebound and/or front bump dampers, in order to reduce the forward weight transfer. but don't try this until you've got your brake balance and pressure settings nailed, and keep in mind that it will affect your corning balance too, meaning you might have to adjust your arbs as well.

One thing that I realised yesterday was the influence of Bump bound/rebound into entry/exit of curves. and I don´t know why can I have a totally understeer setup for this vehicle... !! for example, if I set the front bound/rebound lower than rear bias, the car use to enter better in curves, but at the curve exits it oversteers... Anyone knows how could i have a "perfect" understeer setup (or closer to that)??

PS.: Forgot to save the replay/setup... but when I end that, I´ll send it to you all!!

AndroidXP & mrodgers,

Thanks for all the tips

As soon as I get home (working now... HEHEHE) I´ll make a video of the actual braking situation and with your proposal.

PS.: I was talking about the XR GTR (slower than FZR, but great car too:nod... So I will try to push a little harder my brake setup (around 3000 Nm) and a brake balance of ~75%, and let loose my 30 ton foot off the brakes as I get close to a turn!!

Quote from evilgeek :

you are probably locking up the front wheels.

I´ve done that... all green (most of that at the front wheels, because of the brake force distribuction of 81%... ), but i still got a bad setup for brakes... I´ve download a Setup from team inferno and they commonly use 73%, but with this setup the rear tires lock all the time...

Any other ideas of what can i do??

Hi everyone!!

Could somebody help me out with brake adjustments on XR GTR at AS National track or a good setup for all tracks?? Well, I was looking at WR HL at AS National and they can manage their brakes to stop the car in 100m coming from 270 KM/h... And, with my setup I can´t even manage to do this in 150m !! :Kick_Can_

PS.: I´m using 2000 Nm / 81% at the brakes setup (and 7º front/8º rear of downforce)

Hope someone help me before I get crazy... HEHEHE

Quote from Aiden McGeady :

Hello! I've just switched from demo to S2 today, and I'm loving the game. My favourite cars are the formulas, and I'm a mouse driver.

So do I!

Just moved to S2 (1 week) and I can say that i´ve used well my ~R$100!... Racing everyday with great drivers it´s worth the price.

Hope we find ourselves racing someday (i´m getting used to play in CEROLAG - LFSLA with XFR, there we got great drivers and a good entry car to learn driving basics).

Um abraço e parabéns pela escolha!! Nos vemos por ai!!

MHMendes - aerolitos

There we go:

Processor: AMD Athlon 3000 x64
Memory: (x2) 512Mb DDR2 Kingston (@ 400).
Monitor: Simple 15" + TFT 5,5
Video Card: Radeon 9600 Pro
Power Supply: ???
Wheel/controller: Driving Force / Keyboard. (Gettin' a G25 soon)
Operating System: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2


PS: Upgrading to LFS S2 this week!! c-ya around!