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I just read the news through a link on reddit. I followed the links to the technical papers. Pretty cool. Very impressed with your commitment to technical accuracy. I studied computer vision (due to AI/ML and robotics) at the graduate level, so I know how hard it is replicate, or be close to, the results of a CS technical paper, let alone getting it to work in a commercial application.

I love the detail behind the pit garage

Talk about tone mapping, have you considered using ACES Filmic Tone Mapping?

It was designed for seamless working with color images regardless of input or output color space. It also features a carefully crafted filmic curve for displaying HDR images on LDR output devices.

For game it does have a simpler version.

There is a comparasion between current method and ACES: https://forums.odforce.net/topic/25019-hable-and-aces-tonemapping/ , posted by OskarSwierad

Cool stuff!

Isn't everyone favouring PBR over bumpmapping these days anyway? IIRC they go hand in hand, but bumpmapping is only really noticeable up close.

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Talk about tone mapping, have you considered using generic filmic tonemapping from Timothy Lottes (that FXAA guy)?

This thread from 2016 gift me some inspiration https://bartwronski.com/2016/09/01/dynamic-range-and-evs/comment-page-1/

Reference comparison: https://bruop.github.io/tonemapping/

I'm wondering if there is a better way, then I found this after posted the thread which have been deleted.

I dont get the focus on the outside track area...

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Isn't everyone favouring PBR over bumpmapping these days anyway? IIRC they go hand in hand, but bumpmapping is only really noticeable up close.

As far as I know, PBR obligatory include some sort of bumpmapping (normal map, displacement map to control tesslation), but normal map is really essential if you want to create materials which simulate hard edge details like rocks or sands, to not wasting triangles on details.

From what I can see LFS only has albedo, specular map and some sort of reflective material for glasses (for building windows/cars), but I think if the base albedo is right, Eric can include normal maps pretty easily afterward when the engine will support it.

Speaking of tracks, once everything is finished; is there a chance that we may be able to create our own custom tracks like in Gran Turismo for example?

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Speaking of tracks, once everything is finished; is there a chance that we may be able to create our own custom tracks like in Gran Turismo for example?

Best one is to read here and make own thoughts of it. In other words... probably in future.

https://www.lfs.net/faq/8

Holes still, huh? Well at least them holes ain't on the track.
Even though that could be interesting.

Thx for the Report!

Thanks Scawen for the report. Really appreciate it - and looking forward to any upgrades in the future (although enjoying LFS as is). My 6 yr old son is now into LFS and AC, think he prefers LFS at the moment since we use the editor and build small layouts! Keep up the impressive work!

Thanks Scawen Nice to read, and glad to see things are still going well !

Thanks Degats for the comparisons screens

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This corner will be a lot different ^^

I can't believe it the screens looks incredible seem other game

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How the heck are you doing these shots from exact same points ? Do original shots have GPS coordinates ?

Anyway, looking at the comparisons, the work that Eric is doing is tremendous . It's already difficult when trying to replicate a real track, this is one step further since it involves also (believable) design. Chapeau !

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Do original shots have GPS coordinates ?

yes.. cam position is stated underneath every screenshot

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(IMHO: No point really if there is no online racing and the AI is the AI, enough said for single player)

Actually interesting stuff....

"Other development topics include getting the new tyre physics up to a good standard for release, and hopefully a system to allow the physics and graphics to run on different threads, making use of the multiple CPU cores."

YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm seriously looking forward for this to happen. Actually, just the tyre physics would be an awesome priority.....

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Still better than all of the negativity things.

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Actually interesting stuff....

"Other development topics include getting the new tyre physics up to a good standard for release, and hopefully a system to allow the physics and graphics to run on different threads, making use of the multiple CPU cores."

YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm seriously looking forward for this to happen. Actually, just the tyre physics would be an awesome priority.....

And how exactly is the above not positive ?????

I try to keep my criticism on point and focused. And, as I've been waiting for this physics update for 'a little while' I'm keen to see it released, and hopefully, allow me to actually race this sim on line again.

Just making it look pretty is not going to achieve that.

Damn this is the best so far, I love it! Any chance of getting a look at the track map for this? It looks quite a bit different so it would be cool to see it from above.

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Thank you for doing these! Not only do I personally enjoy these comparisons, but they, along with ScaViEr's progress reports, are also valuable when I (once a year) get in touch with the sponsors of liveforspeed.se. Showing them these comparisons and a summary of the progress since the year before is an effective way to show them that LFS is still very much alive and it's worth keeping the website online.

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Damn this is the best so far, I love it! Any chance of getting a look at the track map for this? It looks quite a bit different so it would be cool to see it from above.

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Indeed ! Victor, you will have to do an onboard video showing a lap in the infield, and in the outfield

Eric : this looks some brilliant changes in the layout we can guess ; I do not even speak about everything at 'scenery' level

I spot a new S/F line in the infield. Did Kyoto 'North' make it to official combo status? Fingers crossed for that.