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Quote from PateDriver :I hope you truly know that i have the Freedom of Speech, your North Korean country might not have it. If you could kindly just back out of this conversation, because i don't think that this is affecting you that much either,
you are just typical American, always sticking your nose to everything.

Now if you are going to say that "yes this does, because i like to inspect the track on the LsC" or "Yes it does i'm admin there" and you want to talk about this with me then, feel free to send me PM. At this moment i'm talking with PoVo, and if your Username doesn't say PoVo i don't feel like talking with you about this, here.

Well I am an admin there so yes I will put my 2 cents here. This THREAD does not concern you, take your 2 cents and you opinions elsewhere.
#77 - PoVo
Quote from PateDriver :So you are extremely dumb, no offence.
Seems that you are after for your own personal satisfaction from this, rather
than your friends and other people who would support you and your server to the end.

I cannot express myself how bad i feel for your cruisers.
I'm gonna wash my hands out of this, but please don't come crying here when
you cannot get rid of this problem....

He won't stop either way so I might as well get some adrenaline to?
Why dont you actually do something to stop him like protect your servers better rather than cry about it to people who dont care anymore? People try to help, but what youre asking for is already done...so you have had your say, crying about it more wont make him any angrier, it will just make him laugh at you more.
Quote from PoVo :Ha,

My server is the least of my concerns. I'd rather see his accounts banned here and my server being DDoS'ed instead of seeing him online laughing at me

It has already been banned
Quote from IsaacPrice :Why dont you actually do something to stop him like protect your servers better rather than cry about it to people who dont care anymore? People try to help, but what youre asking for is already done...so you have had your say, crying about it more wont make him any angrier, it will just make him laugh at you more.

you can't 100% protect yourself from a ddos attack. a ddos attack is of flood of traffic on your network causing it to freeze up and render you offline. There is no way to 100% protect from that.
#81 - PoVo
Well, the same just happened to 500servers.

Let it spread and soon we'll be sitting with 4 online servers on LFS
Quote from edge3147 :you can't 100% protect yourself from a ddos attack. a ddos attack is of flood of traffic on your network causing it to freeze up and render you offline. There is no way to 100% protect from that.

You can have protection from that but the costs are huge, it also tends to have a negative effect on everyday usage and the latency to the servers when not being DDOS'd which is why almost all GSP's that i know of can only react to a DDOS rather than effectively prevent one in the first place.

Quote from PoVo :Well, the same just happened to 500servers.

Let it spread and soon we'll be sitting with 4 online servers on LFS

Fortunately my uplink provider is quite good so we should have this sorted fairly soon. It also appears that the actual attack is (in relative terms) quite small as theres still about 40 - 50% of pings making it through to the server which should speed up the process of getting it sorted out.
Why dont we just get rid of cruiservers
Quote from edge3147 :

...why can't they issue a permaban for someone who is:

1) Breaking the LAW.
2) Causing havoc and disrupting the LFS community
3) Has no regard for his actions.


I lolled hard @ that ... If you knew how DoS / DDoS works, you'd understand why it can't be stopped. DoS = 1 computer, DDoS = multiple computers. It is usually a UDP flooder that targets the IP and can't be tracked because if a person is smart enough to do it, they are smart enough to know how to mask their IP. Long story short, he is a hacker and shouldn't be confronted.

BTW if LLM were trolls, how come they are always the ones that are helping people in the forums most times? Maybe because they aren't trolls...
Quote from Pablo Donoso :I lolled hard @ that ... If you knew how DoS / DDoS works, you'd understand why it can't be stopped. DoS = 1 computer, DDoS = multiple computers. It is usually a UDP flooder that targets the IP and can't be tracked because if a person is smart enough to do it, they are smart enough to know how to mask their IP. Long story short, he is a hacker and shouldn't be confronted.

BTW if LLM were trolls, how come they are always the ones that are helping people in the forums most times? Maybe because they aren't trolls...

more useless posting from someone that has nothing to do with this entire situation, thanks for your feedback, i'll log it in my suggestion box and get back to you later.
Quote from edge3147 :more useless posting from someone that has nothing to do with this entire situation, thanks for your feedback, i'll log it in my suggestion box and get back to you later.

lol perhaps we got off on the wrong foot... Let's try this again....

Hello, I'm RF. I work as Tech Support & as a Network Security Specialist for a few social network sites. I noticed your reply in regards to your inquiry about "perma-banning" and would like to explain why it's not as easy as it sounds.

Quote from RF :DoS = 1 computer, DDoS = multiple computers. It is usually a UDP flooder that targets the IP and can't be tracked because if a person is smart enough to do it, they are smart enough to know how to mask their IP.

The reason why someone who can do this can't be banned is because their IP is rarely their actual IP but instead is either a proxy or VPN service. A username can be banned but unless you also ban the entire IP range of whatever service they use to connect, there's no way to stop them from connecting.

The best protection against any type of abuse relating to a hacker is by knowing exactly how it's done. Googling what to do won't help as it takes a hacker to stop a hacker, simple as that.

Feel better now?
Quote from Pablo Donoso :snip

Feel better now?

Are you still trying to tell me something I ALREADY know?

The point of asking for his account to be banned isnt to stop the attacks, rather to punish this user for breaking the LFS User Agreement.

Are you done now?
But he IS banned, so why is this argument still going on 24hours later. Really
Quote from IsaacPrice :But he IS banned, so why is this argument still going on 24hours later. Really

Because people that have nothing to do with the situation keep replying with smart ass comments.
This thread has run it's course. It's been told Ad nauseam that a DoS / DDos attack is handled firstly on the server owner's end, and that an LFS-wide ban is not the most useful prevention tool as has been told.

This post by Victor as well as this post do well to describe what steps should be taken.

Provide the proof in the email you send to the Devs, and if you feel it necessary, also provide it to other server providers.
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