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How to go Faster? LFS for Dummies....
So i haven't ouched LFS for quite a while. But i remeber the last few races online meant tha i was always a backmarker. I don't know why but i was getting beaten by someone with a keyboard.

Here's a hot lap i recorded a while back, however since then i've got it down to a 1:36.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/TheRooster/videos/1/

Advice please!
going a little wide at the end, but that shouldn't change much.
I'm no fast driver, but some tips:

Turn 1: Because you didn't brake hard enough, you didn't really slow down in time and so ran wide and missed the apex of the corner

Chicane: If you take a reasonable amount of curb you can take this flat out.

Turn 2: Your transition from acceleration to braking is quite leisurely here. It needs to be immediately off one pedal and onto the other. Brake later here (around 75m) and brake on the far outside, using the full width of the track. Do this and you should get a bit closer to the apex. Take advantage of the curb on the outside of T2 to keep up speed.

The next bit just requires you to be a bit more rapid with the controls, and turn in earlier to fully hit the apex of the turn.

Penultimate corner: Brake at 50m, make use of the left hand curb, let the car run wide on the exit and again, make full use of the track width to keep up speed.

Final corner: Not too bad, but the way your car handles through here really makes it look like you are using the default setup.

If you are, get some better ones from Setupgrid.net/Team Inferno Setup Field. Take a look at the world record replay to see where your lines can be improved.
i always fail on blackwood but them tips ^^^ may help thanks
to me it also looks like your setup does not provide too much sidewways grip.. oversteering like that (even in limit conditions) should not have to occur if you setup your vehicle to suit your driving style..

setupfield is the answer
It seems that in an FWD if you get the back a bit loose at entry you distribute some of the lateral forces that are generated during direction change to the back tyres, so the front has more grip in reserve at the time you reach the apex.

A smoother, rounder entry at a bit higher speed might help.
And make sure of your weight shifting. You have to be smooth, silky smoove.

Setups will also help you smoothen your style.
worst thing you can do is hit the throttle when your understeering refrain from doing that and you will get at least .4 of a sec each lap.
#8 - mdmx
First of all, get proper setup. As already said, setupgrid or setupfield is the place to go.

One general note, you are hitting apex too wide on about every corner, and not going wide enough on exit. You should use every inch of track width. You should hit the apex as in as possible, cutting over curbs.

T1: Brake harder, turn in harder and cut over the curb. Once back on throttle, keep it flat out until the T2 after long str8. No need to lift-off at the chicane.

T2: You brake bit too early, and also turn in a bit too early, and you don't turn in aggressive enough. You should brake earlier, still brake a bit on entry as well, turn in later and cut over the curbs here as well, and smoothly go back on full throttle a bit before apex. Use the whole width of the track on exit.

T3: You go too slow, and don't hit the apex inside enough. Cut thru curbs and let it go much more wider on exit. You don't need to retain the right side line to next left hander, you can cut it hard next to tyre pile at full throttle.

Same deal on right hander after the hill, let it exit much wider to left, use the curbs and you can go much faster.

Final turn was best i think, but still you can cut in even more aggressive and you don't have to lift off throttle after apex.
Quote from mdmx :T1: Brake harder, turn in harder and cut over the curb. Once back on throttle, keep it flat out until the T2 after long str8. No need to lift-off at the chicane.

Ever heard of driving less to go faster? you dont really want to be to aggressive cos the wheels will just lose grip
If you've got a good set you can be pretty agressive in the XFG... What you saw in that video was not a good setup. With loadsa-curb, the chicane is an easy flat out, without too much drama.
#11 - mdmx
Quote from J03130 :Ever heard of driving less to go faster? you dont really want to be to aggressive cos the wheels will just lose grip

Yes, over aggressive is slower. But with XFG, proper setup and the current state of lfs tyre physics you can be much faster if you drive more aggr than in that video.

On many corners it's very fast to kinda 'throw it in', go back to zero steer as fast as possible and flat out way before apex and let it 4wheel slide thru the corner. Overdoing it is very slow ofc coz you lose the driving line and/or spin the wheels.

Maybe the term 'aggressive' was misleading there, just drive more faster thru the corners. Maintain higher entry speed, higher apex speed and higher exit speed. Your state of mind should be very calm and smooth and focused, not aggressive at all.

Slow in fast out is the way to go, in general. But in that particular video i didn't see any problems caused by too fast entry speed, coz the entry speeds and turning in was not over aggr it was too careful to me.
Quote from J03130 :worst thing you can do is hit the throttle when your understeering

Not if you apply brakes at the same time (in an FWD)
Slow in fast out, the most important corner is the one before the longest straight.

Carry more momentum through the corner, in other words grow bigger balls

Thats what they tell me in karting
Quote from J03130 :Ever heard of driving less to go faster? you dont really want to be to aggressive cos the wheels will just lose grip

You need to be aggressive *enough*. He's too timid.


Quote from rainspecialist :Slow in fast out, the most important corner is the one before the longest straight.

Carry more momentum through the corner, in other words grow bigger balls

Thats what they tell me in karting

The most important corner is a setup question. Every corner is important for a driver - a driver can be good at all of them, a setup only good at some of them. The important corners are dictated by mile per hour and how many of them share similar MPH determines which ones to focus on. On a track with 3 30-60 MPH corners and 8 70-110 MPH corners, the faster corners are the important ones from a setup perspective, because you spend the most time in them. In fact this is the only time when mile per hour as a measurement is useful in racing. Force India had the highest trap speeds at last year's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Look where it got them - 17th and 18th on the grid, 15th and 17th in the race. They geared/setup for the hairpin coming onto that massive straight, and they lost.

He does need to carry more speed. We all do.

Anyway, Rooster, simply based on what I'm seeing in the video, a couple things:

Rev match those downshifts, if your pedals will let you. Just give the throttle a quick little stab as you pull the downshift paddle. It will make your braking zones feel smoother.

You're not using the brakes enough. Those tires need to be talking. Rev-matching will help you get closer to the limit of the brakes - your front wheels won't be snatching, which is what I think is keeping you cautious on the stop pedal.

Rotate, rotate, rotate. Practice that car control, get out there and just do a bunch of balls out laps, getting sideways, throw it around, get a feel for the limit and beyond. I want to see every corner look like that last corner (entry), without the adding the throttle and inducing crazy understeer. It's front wheel drive, but that doesn't mean the throttle is a light switch - you're still working with a traction "circle", you still need to roll it on so as not to overload the tires. Still, that last corner entry was nice, right on the edge, you just came out of it by jumping on the throttle.
More gas, less brake.

Quote from Forbin :More gas, less brake.


You serious? He killed a few corners by jumping on the throttle too much. He needs to be gentler with it - give it a good one-onethousand as you roll it on.

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