Quote from luki97 :

You can make it just by making a little bit longer gears (mainly that which was used for slow turns) and when you make them longer then your turbo works slower. Cars from lfs dont have something like a compressor which works as fast as engine when hitting a throttle.

this is used mainly at 2nd (sometimes 3rd) gear turns, higher gears have to work normally. Ofc. its a compromise between turbo power and how fast/short your gears should be.

In fact that's more like a Traction Control as you basically control the power you get on your wheel by using turbo lag/gear ratios

Well ALMS have never followed litteraly ACO regulations but kept the car close to ACO regulations so teams that wanted to compete at Le Mans was able to compete in France.

The thing is that Daytona + Sebring + laguna Seca + Watkins Glen + Indy + Atlanta is probably more interesting than only half of them so LMP1 class which is expensive is for factories. Atm ALMS has none but probably some american brands will think about this big championship has a possible opportunity that wasn't offered by ALMS nor Grand AM.

For me P1 isn't really needed in Europe as european factories tried to export themself out of Europe and there are more and more european (France for example) country are more and more anti-cars. For example Peugeot pushed a lot for chinese ILMC round. Audi was also interested in. America is a bit different as american car maker's first market is still America.

Btw in Europe you must be awared that some people are speaking about accepting CN class in ELMS.

Well LMPC aren't homologated after 2014 so it may desappear (basically this is 2006 (!) Courage LC75 !).

Banning LMP1 would be dramatic as it is basically a factory class designed for factories. With such a big american championship I think (hope) some american brand would be interested in that and potentially would find Le mans interested so basically need to race in P1 !

For me it should be :

P1 - ACO
P2 - ACO
DP (tbh it is outdated cars so if it's not here it wouldn't be such a bad thing)
GTE PRO - ACO
GTE AM - ACO
Grand AM GTs - Grand AM

Very cool avatar indeed

Thanks Reno & Fade ! Was pleasure aswell to be in spdo !

Last edited by MoMo92i, Mon 10 Sep 2012, 16:01.

Many american teams struggle a lot at Le Mans because european way of racing is totally different and even regulation are really different between ALMS and ELMS/LM. European teams have the same trouble when going to ALMS.

The problem of Dyson is that Lola is pretty sick atm.

I don't think introducing GTE AM class will creat problems tbh. In europe/WEC there are more customers for it than GTE PRO. Teams have to find the budget for PRO cars. In GTE AM, amateur drivers are paying for it and as there is a possibility to race at Le Mans, GTE cars and teams are really attractive to them and there is many gentlemen drivers for it.

It is basically the same in America with for example Seth Neiman or Bret Curtis. I think that some gentlemen don't want to race GTE in ALMS because the level in GT is so high that they can't win a race even achieve a podium. With GTE AM they will be able to do so and that will most probably attract them. Furthermore cars are cheaper as they were already used (IMSA Performance's chassis is from 2009, Prospeed was from 2009 aswell, and Flying still have some old chassis).

Endurance-info said it will be something like LMP2-DP-GTE-GTC

Looks more like replacing LMPC (not valid after 2013) by DP and extending GTC class with other GT3 "American".

Would be a shame not to see any LMP1 class. Daytona 24h+Sebring 12h+Petit Le Mans could have interest some big american factories and have them back at Le Mans !

Anyway it looks like ACO is part of the deal and that most of the field would be eligible for Le Mans (so GTE and LMP2 should be right).

Basically nothing new at this point ^^

GT3 are rubbish, pro drivers had those as these are not really racing cars. GT3 are made for gentlemen not for drivers.

tbh you can't imagine one of the biggest race in the world (Le Mans) and its series to be run with cars that has no technical regulations exept having roll cages and fire extinguisher.

In fact GT3 class is a big joke to suit gentleman and make them feeling fast and racing any cars they want. This isn't really the spirit of Le Mans as even AM class is really professionnal (teams and drivers).

For example, Porsche GT3R has Porsche RSR's wishbones and Porsche GT3 Cup engine with RSR airbox. It has aswell some body parts from RSR but it is really far from an RSR in term of running it for a team.

Btw I wouldn't understand why people wants to kill a class where so many factories are officially involved...

AF Corse = Michelotto = Ferrari
Felbermayr + Flying Lizard + IMSA Performance + Manthey = Porsche

I think the only error made with this class was to make WEC and ELMS separate championship. Last year ELMS races took place at the same time as ILMC and GTE grid was awesome ! Some teams were also racing in both championship like Felbermayr and are not doing that this year because of that (budget was cheaper when 50% of the season took place at the same time with the same car).

I hope Grand AM will not export their rubbish DP to be top ALMS prototyp and keep the ACO spirit. I think it would definitely be better for endurance if every top endu series share the same regulations (at least same basis).

I'm still dreaming to see some american teams in Le Mans like Dyson, Penske even some GT team like BMW RLL.

Quote from MoMo92i :

manager: {Vtiracing, Reno Kööts}
viceManager: {egon-est, Egon Liibeon}
teamName: spdoRacing
class: Pro
car: XRR
number: 3
drivers:
{egon-est, Egon Liibeon, Estonia}
{Garfild12, Adam Wisniewski, Poland}
{mihu86, Balázs Mihály, Hungary}
{Ghost_CZ, Martin Šilhánek, Czech Republic}
{sohsohsooh, Fredrik Noor, Estonia}
{fadeaway, Veljko Belenzada, Serbia}
{rikje,Rik de Jong, Netherlands}
{Kristi, Kristóf Kerekes, Hungary}
{Sandman90, Marcel Krause, Germany}
{vtiracing, Reno Kööts, Estonia}

removed myself

Thanks everyone !

@Tommy : Yeah ! When is it? mid october right?

@Niki : Fade don't need me to pwn everyone ^^ and spdo have still some of the most talented driver of LFS !

@genR duo : everyone need some luck, especially in motorsport

btw LMPC class might disapear so maybe DP will be another class but I think both DP teams and LMP teams wants to race for the overall win. Btw 2014 is the year of new ACO regulations...I think Riley was interested by LMP2 class a year ago.

lmp2 winning in ALMS and Porsche GT3 RSR on 4 th :o

I think that merge will creat quite an interesting championship in the US need something like that in Europe aswell...

24hrs of Daytona + 12 hours of Sebring + Petit Le Mans = waahoo !

LMP1-LMP2-LMP3 (DP)- GT2 Pro&Am - GT3 (GT in Grand Am)

That can work I think

#03 is ok

Quote from VTiRacing :

teamName: spdoRacing
car: XRR
class: GT2-Pro
number: 03
drivers:
- {fadeaway, Veljko Belenzada, Serbia}
- {MoMo92i, Morgan Trollé, France}
- {vtiracing, Reno Kööts, Estonia}

updated, as reno isn't home yet reno's post isn't up to date

3 class means 10 cars / class whereas 2 class means 15 cars/class so bigger fight !

Quote from rockclan :

Look to it as Le Mans kind of series, LMP1, LMP2 and GT3

Le Mans has 55 (+1) cars field. Here we have 30 cars grid.

3 classes not sure it is the best as it will make less cars on each classes and NGT roll easily when hitted slightly by GTRs

Maybe you should know a bit more mister Jack to understand that...

Last edited by MoMo92i, Tue 28 Aug 2012, 21:58.

http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/news-focus-12802.html

lol

would have been better in Le Mans :@

Toyota almost did it! Nice new failure by Porsche in GT

basically all 500servers are down in fact

Ceccoto & Beltoise aswell but I have to admit 2wheels and 4wheels are quite different. I think it is easier for someone fast with motorbike to be fast with cars than the contrary.

Quote from Racer X NZ :

So drifters first and second.

A: where are the racers ?
B: pikes peak is a drift course ?

Well what about drifters being racers before being drifters? That's funny how drifter think drift is a world apart motorsport. Drift is just one part of motorsport as rallycross is, endurance, rally, ...Any decent driver from any kind of this "department" is able to switch from one to another one. In early age of motorsport it was something common to see a formula one driver racing in f2 or f3 on the same week end of a formula one grand prix, and being driving his rally car on next week end. Nowadays there are still some that can do that like Romain Dumas who is Porsche factory driver and also racing in french rally championship with his Porsche cup. Some drivers that you call drifters are simply doing the same.

I'm pretty sure Romain Dumas can drift with his Porsche GT3R. Anyway he was drifting with Porsche 911 GT3 RS on french TV last time so Romain Dumas is a drifter ! and his Porsche 911 GT3 R is a drift car (based on the 911 GT3 RS) but with aero for race track (pikes peak this time) and suspension set to be hard.

This Porsche wasn't a factory one. Porsche Motorsport have enough work with 991 GT3 RSR and LMP1 to deal with a GT3R (which is kind of low cost RSR tbh) for Pikes Peak.

It was a car developed by Romain Dumas, PKM consulting (suspension) and other french expert from south of France. Nothing official, nor factory.

As it was Romain Dumas first time in Pikes Peak, he will be probably faster next year.

Poor guy, one day you might understand something in motorsport

EDIT : proof that GT3 RS is a drift machine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdOQHvpTBGY

Last edited by MoMo92i, Fri 17 Aug 2012, 07:21.