Is it normal that there is more points between 3rd and 4th than 2nd and 3rd? 
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Enjoy your test day in Valencia Tommy ! Hope to see you on track in 2013!
in R5 James timed out twice from lead (1st time) after having showing quite an impressive pace. But anyway last year it was impossible to build a gap and btw to catch a gap. So basically if genR or spdo have had a bad day like what Vires had experienced, it would have given the title to the other team way before the end of the season. It's definitely not fun ! I agree that you should be consistent but endurance races in real life are full of problems (technical). I agree with poozak about which system you should use. Take the one from any good endurance league as soon as there is some interesting gap between top 5 positions.
Even in endurance I think the most winning team especially if they have won more than half the races in the championship should be champion which could have not been the case last year.
Even in endurance I think the most winning team especially if they have won more than half the races in the championship should be champion which could have not been the case last year.
Well some race with few opponents but quality opponents are harder to win than race with full grid and rubbish opponent. The number of car on track doesn't really make the points worth or not.
Plus this point system doesn't make any difference between position. Let's have the most winning team champion ! I think everyone would agree it will be well deserved
Plus this point system doesn't make any difference between position. Let's have the most winning team champion ! I think everyone would agree it will be well deserved
James Peace was competing in some single seater race in 2011 and may be back behind a wheel in 2013. Estonian young talent Kevin Korjus is also an LFS license holder. Norbi Kiss who was driving truck was spotted in Live for speed by a team manager and started his irl career thanks to that. Teemu Suninen is a quite promising fin rally driver. Steven Bossard is 2010 french rallycross championship in category 1B. He is actually playing with several other french rallycrosser including some members of Pailler family who is quite an historical family in french rallycross. Nial Murray and Andy O'Brien are both irish young ginetta drivers. May forget a lot of people tho ^^
@Ray : was* actually I'm currently looking for LMP team for 2013 ^^
@Ray : was* actually I'm currently looking for LMP team for 2013 ^^
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Looks like 2013 will be quite an opened championship. I would bet on Ogier or Hirvonen!
Looks like 2013 will be quite an opened championship. I would bet on Ogier or Hirvonen!
That's sounds...
Gratz and good luck to Kristi and his new home !
This year even if LM was a WEC event it didn't have the same qualifying procedure. From Spa round WEC got a new qualifying procedure : one driver, no pit stop and qualifying driver starting the race with the set of tyres used in qualify.
In the team manager briefing Gerard Neveu stated that Le Mans was considered as a special event even if its in WEC and it has his own sporting regulation that differ slighty from those used in WEC. Furthermore he added that Le Mans wasn't a round of Wec but a race where WEC is part of it. In fact Le Mans will always stay Le Mans, wec inside or no.
And yes exact marketing department of Pug no one did care of Pole in Le Mans. Everyone using qualifying to set the car for the race and that apply for every team. Some constructor (Porsche) did even say its team not to be too quick in qualifying (which wasn't hard this year)
In the team manager briefing Gerard Neveu stated that Le Mans was considered as a special event even if its in WEC and it has his own sporting regulation that differ slighty from those used in WEC. Furthermore he added that Le Mans wasn't a round of Wec but a race where WEC is part of it. In fact Le Mans will always stay Le Mans, wec inside or no.
And yes exact marketing department of Pug no one did care of Pole in Le Mans. Everyone using qualifying to set the car for the race and that apply for every team. Some constructor (Porsche) did even say its team not to be too quick in qualifying (which wasn't hard this year)
Bon anniversaire Team Vires !
Finally Vires is like a family and joining Vires was like going back to my former - but extended - family !
Finally Vires is like a family and joining Vires was like going back to my former - but extended - family !
Hamilton seems to be one of his close friend. Agreed for the sarcasm. But still good to hear someone writing what everyone involved or following motorsport know (but not the rest of the world)
It's happened again.
Guys what about having some chat without any war sometimes it is great as well.
EDIT : That's not against anyone, only a general opinion about what happen in almost every threads of top league/teams this year...
Guys what about having some chat without any war sometimes it is great as well.
EDIT : That's not against anyone, only a general opinion about what happen in almost every threads of top league/teams this year...
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It will be probably not be used at Le Mans. At Le Mans practise sessions used to be qualifying as well and to be honest I doubt it will change because nobody exept Peugeot did care about where they were they start as it will have some really small influence on the position you get 24 hours later.
Le Mans is a special event. For my point of view it shouldn't be in the WEC and be an extra race. Furthermore Le Mans in the WEC biased this race because every cars in the WEC is starting at Le Mans which cause some teams that are already well established in endurance races not to start because there is no room left in the grid. Some new teams are allowed to race there because they do WEC but have never race in any LMS/ALMS/WEC event before 2013, so basically aren't worth racing in la Sarthe.
This system was decided today and I haven't find exaclty how it will work. That might be a bit complicated to understand but it will make some interesting grid in LM GTE AM and LMP2 as line up are PRO/AM there. Well you have one BRONZE in LMP2 & GTE AM, what would really be good is that this driver had to qualify the car.
Le Mans is a special event. For my point of view it shouldn't be in the WEC and be an extra race. Furthermore Le Mans in the WEC biased this race because every cars in the WEC is starting at Le Mans which cause some teams that are already well established in endurance races not to start because there is no room left in the grid. Some new teams are allowed to race there because they do WEC but have never race in any LMS/ALMS/WEC event before 2013, so basically aren't worth racing in la Sarthe.
This system was decided today and I haven't find exaclty how it will work. That might be a bit complicated to understand but it will make some interesting grid in LM GTE AM and LMP2 as line up are PRO/AM there. Well you have one BRONZE in LMP2 & GTE AM, what would really be good is that this driver had to qualify the car.
Hum not really sure about that.
Btw new qualifying system in WEC :
2 drivers
2 laps each
Average lap of the 4 laps to make the grid
Going to be quite a complicate one :o
Maximum number of tyres for a race week end for LMP2 and LM GTE AM. Sorry Larbre Competition you will not win Le Mans next year by changing tyres on each pit stop
Btw new qualifying system in WEC :
2 drivers
2 laps each
Average lap of the 4 laps to make the grid
Going to be quite a complicate one :o
Maximum number of tyres for a race week end for LMP2 and LM GTE AM. Sorry Larbre Competition you will not win Le Mans next year by changing tyres on each pit stop
Well actually what you would need to make this race is probably two teams of mechanics/engineer. On for the first half and one for the other but still I think cars will not make it with one engine, one gearbox, 4 dampers and the same electronics.
What can be done is servicing the car on each stop as you have plenty of time but you can't change an engine in 10minutes, Audi did change gearbox + rear axle of the car in 5 minutes but it was with a factory LMP900.
I predict that a clio cup will win this race ^^
What can be done is servicing the car on each stop as you have plenty of time but you can't change an engine in 10minutes, Audi did change gearbox + rear axle of the car in 5 minutes but it was with a factory LMP900.
I predict that a clio cup will win this race ^^
Would have been such a race ^^
Wondering if we gonna see those Z4 GTE in La Sarthe. Hopefully !
When you read the regulations, at each stop the race leader should stop 10 minutes...
48 hours : Most GT3 are already struggling to last 24 hours. Ferrari and Porsche GT2's engine lifetime is ~35 hours between two rebuild. For a technical staff 24 hours is really hard because for example race engineers do not sleep ! Mechanics have an hard life as well because of changing tyres every hour.
I doubt doing a 48 hours is such a good idea. It seems like an idiot have one day think while being drunk : "24hours are for pu**y ! Let's do 48 hours !" When you see how many cars are still on track after 24 hours, I'm wondering how many will still be there after 48 hours. 2-3? Furthermore everyone that have made a 24 hours one day would confess that in last few hours everyone wants it to finish especially Spa and the ring (Le Mans is a bit easier for men actually, but not for cars).
This race doesn't feel like a serious buisness really and I know that some teams share that feeling.
48 hours : Most GT3 are already struggling to last 24 hours. Ferrari and Porsche GT2's engine lifetime is ~35 hours between two rebuild. For a technical staff 24 hours is really hard because for example race engineers do not sleep ! Mechanics have an hard life as well because of changing tyres every hour.
I doubt doing a 48 hours is such a good idea. It seems like an idiot have one day think while being drunk : "24hours are for pu**y ! Let's do 48 hours !" When you see how many cars are still on track after 24 hours, I'm wondering how many will still be there after 48 hours. 2-3? Furthermore everyone that have made a 24 hours one day would confess that in last few hours everyone wants it to finish especially Spa and the ring (Le Mans is a bit easier for men actually, but not for cars).
This race doesn't feel like a serious buisness really and I know that some teams share that feeling.
I'm still wondering if this race is a joke or a crazy serious thingy.
Manthey announced Le Mans and WEC as Porsche work factory team !
The nurburgring sattelite view may have been taken during a race ^^
Will be quite an interesting and crucial season for endurance. Can WEC and ELMS survive?
Will be quite an interesting and crucial season for endurance. Can WEC and ELMS survive?
Gratz my dear GenR ! Really good addition to your team !
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