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hinirags
S2 licensed
Quote from MadCatX :All right, engine setting is a part of car setup, but look for ex. on WTCC championship. There are many car brands there, and I bet that every Seat, BMW, Alfa and so on has the SAME engine setup as any other car of the same brand. Engine setup isn't the standard part of car setup. Engine is set properly in it's developement stage and there are no serious changes made during the race season. I am 99% sure that engine isn't set up for drivers needs, but driver has to famaliarize with engine. I've never heard any driver saying "I need a more torque at 4th gear in 5000rpm, adjust the fuel injection".

So do you often hear someone with a 205Gti doing rally saying "in need to pass from 3,234 to 3,254 gear ratio"?
hinirags
S2 licensed
I don't really understand your point of view when you say that setting the engine is not a part of the setup of the car...
If you have a certain gear ratio in a turning, maybe you will be to have more torque to go out of it, than with the standard engine configuration.
hinirags
S2 licensed
It existed in S1 but has been abandonned.
hinirags
S2 licensed
I don't really know, but as LFS doesn't propose to change parts, I think it is not usefull to propose "performance air filters" or "turbo stage 2".

I think it is out of question to change parts. But it is important to be able to change parameters.

For me, LFS is not giving to us real cars that we can set, but "prototypes" that are being set, like in real companies, where if something doesn't work well, you do it antoher way.

So i think things that should be set would be length of the tubes (inlet and exhaust) where the only thing which is done is to change the torque curve as a function of your track.
Then, as it has been told, it would be great to change things such as ignition timing for exemple, and injection time. All that would give more or less power. Keep in mind that more power implies more consumption. So maybe some pilotes will prefer a light car with low fuel but less power, or others more power but more fuel onboard. With that, you can adjust the balancing of the car with adding fuel in the tank and compensating by having more power.
You should be able of choose the diameter of ports. Bigger will help at high revs, wether smaller will help at low revs.
Also you can add filtering systems that are more or less efficient: the more the air is clean, the more your engine is reliable, but you have less power.
You should be able to change the inertia of flying wheel, which influences acceleration.
You should be able to change things that are automatically balanced by a disadvantage. So you have homogenous performance, but optained in a different way.
hinirags
S2 licensed
I don't really agree with you about the "ultimate engine setup", Tristan.

I think that, like for the chassis, it may depend on the driver's choice. You don't have the same trajectories depending of the driver, and he may require slightly different engine caracteristics. This point is even more important when we relate it to, as you said, the particularities of each pilot's chassis setup. Each engine should be adjusted to the chassis, and vice-versa. A car is a whole thing, and the only thing that you can not influence in LFS is the engine. However it is a major sub-system in a car.

Another thing, i am talking for myself, but i think other people can think like me: we are not all interested by having the perfect trajectory, and like having some fun. The races are not always ordered as it became the case in F1 these last years. So the diverstity in engine setups might be an advantage to give one more dimension to short races.
hinirags
S2 licensed
But if setting the chassis is not tuning, what is it?

I know that we can easily change the power and caracteristics of the engines thanks to tools such as tweaks and mechanic.

But I think the "setup" of the engine is as much important as the chassis! In a certain limit (to avoid too big gaps between setups).

It is useless saying that a car such as the Gti in the normal life is impossible to set as it is in the game. (dampers, springs and all the angles...) So the game isn't so "pure". What would it lost if engine settings were added?
Open-minded?
hinirags
S2 licensed
Hello to everybody,

I am not a good driver (in the game ).

What i am loving in this game is that it is realistic enough! But that is not why i think i am a pilot!
Why are so many people here closed to the idea that everyone else playing this game has the same point of view???
It is always possible to regroup, as it has been told, the potentially modified engines by category, or "class"...

Why are you so offensed when someone speaks about something, maybe you can't handle (engine tuning) ?

Please keep in mind that even if you don't like an idea, some people may.

So if "improvments" to the game such as engine tuning doesn't force you to play the way you like to, why preventing other people from having something that they would them enjoy the game even more?

Sébastien
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