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car 12 reversing down the track trying to spin back round and causes a wreck lol... your supposed to wait until whole field gone by!

Quote from pearcy_2k7 :

Yeh but then scipy or Ray will just pwn you!

Thats why i dont even bother trying to get them

PS: Are you using the set that shadow was using and he was ALOT faster with or your normal set?

my set... shadows too much df

im getting closer to WR

he knew i was there allrite he was allrdy straightened up and from the steering lock u can see he sharped turned there... but oh well.. we finished 3rd

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=783048#post783048

and this? i love to hear explanation from this driver lol

Quote from srdsprinter :

While I understand the continuance of the CoRe/TDRT incident, I think the situation was handled correctly given the circumstances. Yes, it was a bad deal, but it was handled realisticly.

The attrocious wrecking under the SC was not.

The #16 car spun a leader out on the formation lap, and recieved the specified pentalty.

Upon reviewing the replay under the SC car incident at the hour marker, the #16:
a) Spun under Caution and rejoined the field instead of joining the tail.
b) ran into the car in front of it on the back-straight. Which Should have warranted at least another SG, but nothing.
c) The ran into the car in Front of it AGAIN, this time resulting in the DNF of the #30.

With at least 4 incidents under the SC, one car proved beyond a shadow of doubt they do not have the maturity to handle the responsibilites of racing in the IGTC.

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the car also hit me.. but not as bad... i saw it coming and missed the brute force but was clipped slightly i was up in top 5 at the time

and what do you think about this? your opinions on this move...

chicane after first corner.

im interested

good race, and i am over the moon at getting 5th place here

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

That's some terrible luck. You were really doing well there, moving on up.

We'll take a look at the replay of the start and try to address whatever caused that. We implemented a new start procedure so that the leader gradually accelerates toward the green, but I was so busy messing with the tracker that I didn't get to watch it.

we did

but people behind i cant say as i was busy trying to get p1 at green lol

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Ah, the "lucky dog" rule.

I personally wouldn't have an issue with it, but I don't know what the community feeling is.

thats what its called.. i knew it was dog..

yea the lucky dog rule

a rule that i saw recently was in nascar.. for every safety car, the first lapped car gets to go around and rejoin the back of the line? how would that fair with the admins? good or bad?

Quote from SamH :

We had it the other way where our driver was put into a wall by someone coming through, too impatient to wait for an appropriate moment, and (it seemed to me either totally deliberately or blatantly disrespectfully) ran our guy off the track and into a wall. I don't think the lapping driver lost 4 places with his DT, like he caused us to do. I feel very familiar with this situation being very firmly on the receiving end of an unsporting and bullish mentality in lapping drivers.

i guess that was a dig...

nevermind.. life goes on

during the race i only had to defend my position from a backmarker once...

so i dont think after getting lapped is much of a problem

maybe others had it more?

Quote from danowat :

Funny how the faster drivers moan about the slower drivers, and vice versa, I am starting to think the only way to at least come close to solving this issue is to ballast/intake restrict the faster drivers so they don't lap the slower ones...........

Either that or both parties act sensibly, which we know probably isn't going to happen.

It boils down to an ego thing, the slower drivers ego gets hurt because they have to yeld to faster drivers (and probably wish they were as fast, heck, I know I feel it) and the faster drivers ego's get the better of them when a slower driver gets in the way of "their" race.

Bottomline, this will never get sorted, not while there is such a spread of skill levels on the same track, so I emplore the IGTC admins to clarify the rules so that these sorts of disscusions become null and void, because it will go round, and round, and round, you get the idea......

so the fast drivers are gonna get penalized even more coz they spend hours and hours getting the perfect setup while others just turn up and race? i saw a few PB's in the race where they improved by 3-4 seconds..

its not the fault of drivers who put in the hard work of perfecting a setup which can hold a 1:08 lap every lap.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

danowat nailed it there.

So please, wait for us to formulate a new policy.

Then we can start another round of arguing.

right.... i await to read these new ballast rules....

PS. for all you that say we front runners are "hotlappers" that is not true... the teams all probably have a set which they worked hard on thats why they all were in top 5.

and i was in hotlapping mode.. but only from 3 hours 50 to 4 hours... hence fastest lap last lap

Quote from Swiss_Tony :

I would suggest it was both and given his posts it seems to me they are a confirmation of his intent. A black flag would have been a more fitting penalty but a drive through and a subsequent win? What's going on here? Is money exchanging hands ?

right.. we paid them to let us win $300 i paid into their paypal

i saw places where cars were also not sent to back of line.. car 14 went off track under safety car once

and also 07 car went off under safety car BUT did they get sent back? no

did we? sure did.

so my $300 bucks didnt work did it

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

There's no great risk involved in getting up to the bumper of the car ahead. In my opinion, you need to show the lapped car your nose if you want to be given a free pass to go by. Hanging out a few hundred meters behind his bumper isn't enough. He would have to let off substantially to let you by, given how far back you were.

i did just that.. showed my nose but still blocked..

2 examples

car 17 lap 25
car 26 lap 194

majority of others were ok..

1st instance was i was 2 sec ahead of 2nd...

i was held up by backmarker for 3 corners... then by next corner i was almost overtaken..

Quote from The Moose :

That's exactly how blue flags work.

thats why people were getting blocked for 1 lap and 2 laps at a time... because they were just not obeying the blue flag

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

A note on this...

I reviewed the replay, and watching from the heli view it seemed that once side by side, both cars (#06 and #15) basically drifted toward each other. However, the natural inclination at that point on the straight is to drift to the right to meet the "apex" of the straight (where it bends just after the overpass). Furthermore, #15 should never have been that close to the #06 while lapping. While this wasn't really overaggressive driving (I'd call it more brain fade than anything else), in conjunction with an earlier incident with the #13 car I felt the #15 deserved a DT.

Had the move on the #06 been overly aggressive or intentional looking, I would have gone with a SG.

lol so its my fault that blue flag drivers dont slow down they try to race me down the straight?? right....

blue flag is a joke so many people do not give way.. the expect YOU to go around them.. thats not how it works

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Quote from danowat :

Someone needs to have a word with the back markers, making it very difficult for people to pass.

yes....

i 2nd this...

1 whole lap some driver would not move out the damn way....

nearly wrecked by 2 others....

noob school bus needed for igtc backmarkers

would of been good race if i didnt have the wheel problem... i practiced alot for this race only to mess it up for the CD team

of course they would

flat tyre means that round round right handers is hard... but left handers are the same and str8 u are the same so i dont see why safety car was brought out as this is left hand circuit...