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[OLD] Tyre Physics Progress Report
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Haven't seen you on here for a while Vykos!
Do people not agree that there has to come a point sooner rather than later where the new tyre physics have to be released even if they arn't as perfect as the devs would like. I know they can't have massive bugs but as long as they are an overall improvement then why not? There's nothing to stop them being improved again and again in the future. Rather than work on them for years and years without anyone enjoying the advancements and the sim becoming old graphically and content wise but then suddenly one day have increadable physics.

Plus I know they have beta testers but surely if everyone got to try them the overall feedback would help define the direction of the physics in the future. Sometimes I feel they don't know the impact they have on people. I honestly believe hours and hours of playing this sim have made me a better racer and driver in real life. I bet sometimes when their sat at a computer desk trying to figure out a difficult bit of code it could get annoying and make you loose interest but if only they knew how much some of us appreciate their work.

I also know they like working at their own pace etc but surely it would be nice to release the hard work they have been doing so people can actually enjoy it and they can get some revenue in for the hard work they have done. I'm not saying release unfinished content but there must be some things finished.

Basically, there has to come a point when things need to get released because imagine if the tyre physics were released in another 3 or 4 years. Then they started working on brake temperatures for another 2 or 3 years. Then new sounds for a year, and then weather effects for 5 years. There wouldn't be enough time in their or our lifetime to complete the game or improve it to where it could and should be. LFS as it is now is proof that it's possible for 3 developers to make a brilliant sim in a reasonable amount of time. So either thay havn't been working anywhere near like they used to or they have a massive amount of work yet to be released in conjunction with S3 etc. With the lack of progress reports and Scawen's continued comments of only reporting to us when there's something worth reporting I can't help fear it's the former. I just hope they prove me wrong.....
The problem is, half-assed work won't do it anymore. With the likes of iRacing and Nkpro to compete with, LFS can't just do a decent job, it must be fantastic. Otherwise, why would you want to play LFS? It doesn't even have real cars or tracks! The physics are the key selling point for LFS, but if there are better physics out there then there are better games to play. Honestly, I think Scawen is trying to make this the end-all of tyre physics. While the physics can never be perfect, I believe he is trying to make this update good enough that when it's done he'll never have to do this sort of thing again. He'll be able to focus on other aspects of LFS and tyre physics will hopefully take a back seat in development as all it needs is to be tweaked. Perhaps my thinking is too ideal though.
Quote from Rappa Z :The problem is, half-assed work won't do it anymore. With the likes of iRacing and Nkpro to compete with, LFS can't just do a decent job, it must be fantastic. Otherwise, why would you want to play LFS? It doesn't even have real cars or tracks! The physics are the key selling point for LFS, but if there are better physics out there then there are better games to play. Honestly, I think Scawen is trying to make this the end-all of tyre physics. While the physics can never be perfect, I believe he is trying to make this update good enough that when it's done he'll never have to do this sort of thing again. He'll be able to focus on other aspects of LFS and tyre physics will hopefully take a back seat in development as all it needs is to be tweaked. Perhaps my thinking is too ideal though.

scawen is idealist too so u just might be right
Quote from Alric :Do people not agree that there has to come a point sooner rather than later where the new tyre physics have to be released even if they arn't as perfect as the devs would like.

Why?

The only reasons I can come up with, are if Scawen gets sick of the work and decides to release what he's got and give up, or if there is some pressing commercial imperative to do it. Neither of which I have any information about and neither, I'm assuming, do you.
Quote from thisnameistaken :Why?

Well, because imagine if in 20 years time he was still working on new tyre physics and hadn't released anything. That would surely be the death of the sim. It must come a point in the relative future when either he feels they are perfect or accept they are a big improvement over the current physics and release them anyway.
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Now lets start a new 140+ thread and talk shit.
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My suggestion is that there will come somekind of testpatch at 12th of december.
Quote from aroX123 :My suggestion is that there will come somekind of testpatch at 12th of december.

December 12th is not friday...and they had sayed it will be out on friday,so :P
Quote from aroX123 :My suggestion is that there will come somekind of testpatch at 12th of december.

I believe the same. 12th of December 2015 will be the day!
Quote from prOmo_LTU :December 12th is not friday...and they had sayed it will be out on friday,so :P

9th of december then
No, it will be on the 31st of February.
Yes, if only.
24th December 2010 is my guess, and it better be! :throwrose
early 2011 shall it be:maggiesim
Never is my guess.
The question is how to interpret confusion with CPW.

I guess in this year will not be any updates here. :sadbanana
Quote from Scawen :Anyway, once again, we are working on things and expect some good releases this year!

Quote from adamshl :I guess in this year will not be any updates here. :sadbanana

so you mean...the cake is a lie?:sadbanana

edit:
NO CAKE OMG NOT AGAIN
actually if Scawen knew the date on which they will complete the update work, he would say ... this date will it release s3 .... but he say this year ..
How many years can discuss it? Would be better off rolling on the network, rather than repeating his words from year to year. Protection against cheaters updated, so the project is not abandoned, you need patience and wait.
or S3 is privatebeta and Live For Speed coming to stores and fill up dvds
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[OLD] Tyre Physics Progress Report
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