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green drives are way way quieter
plenty of reason to buy them
Quote from Shotglass :green drives are way way quieter
plenty of reason to buy them

because they are way slower. If you have a component that is louder than the hdd (chassis fan) then what's the point in having a quieter hdd?
If you want a quiet hdd, go solid state. moving parts make noise.
Hmmm? It's a 7400 rpm. There were three models, blue red and green. But only green were available... I dont really get what the colours mean. What I know is that my old hard disk had 5200 approx, and this is much faster.
I haven't looked at the price difference, but I think the 5400 drivers should be cheaper.

Anyway, I guess it depends on what you want to do with the drive, if it's just for storing music / videos etc. than a slower drive is just fine. If you need performance you should get a faster one. Btw, don't most consumer notebooks come with a 5400 rpm drive? (At least mine did)
"Green" drives are cheaper per capacity. That's why I buy them unless something else is necessarily, like if I plan to put them in a RAID for a server, which can work bad on cheaper disks that aren't made for it. Unless I want performance, a green drive is fine enough. If I want performance, I'd buy a smaller and faster drive.

This is some of the stuff I bought last weekend.

Edit: The "Free hugs" fan came with as free if I bought for over NOK200, so not sure if that counts.
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Quote from Ni-san :
This is some if the stuff I bought last weekend. (attachmnents)

Are you female by any chance?
Quote from Ni-san :Nice try, but no.

Why all the Sailor Moon, Handbag and Pink Dinosaurs laughing at the moon stuff then? Don't take it personal, it just looks like something my 14 year old niece would buy...
Quote from jibber :Why all the Sailor Moon, Handbag and Pink Dinosaurs laughing at the moon stuff then? Don't take it personal, it just looks like something my 14 year old niece would buy...

I bought the Hatsune Miku phone case because I like Miku and the case seemed well made. The bag is more practical in a crowded area than a huge backpack. The T-shirt is from the anime convention I've been at, and I thought I needed that as a souvenir. And I know I can be a bit childish sometimes :P
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Quote from Impreza09 :Hmmm? It's a 7400 rpm. There were three models, blue red and green. But only green were available... I dont really get what the colours mean. What I know is that my old hard disk had 5200 approx, and this is much faster.

A typo there on the 7400rpm, I can only assume. Current generation 'green' drives will be faster than older 'performance' (e.g. 7200rpm, 10000rpm) drives because of improvements in areal density and caching. However, a 'green' drive and a 'performance' drive from the same generation and with the same or similar platters and caching will be slower due to the difference in rotation speed.

Quote from three_jump :I haven't looked at the price difference, but I think the 5400 drivers should be cheaper.

Anyway, I guess it depends on what you want to do with the drive, if it's just for storing music / videos etc. than a slower drive is just fine. If you need performance you should get a faster one. Btw, don't most consumer notebooks come with a 5400 rpm drive? (At least mine did)

Quote from Ni-san :"Green" drives are cheaper per capacity. That's why I buy them unless something else is necessarily, like if I plan to put them in a RAID for a server, which can work bad on cheaper disks that aren't made for it. Unless I want performance, a green drive is fine enough. If I want performance, I'd buy a smaller and faster drive.

There used to be a much larger gap in price between 'green' and 'performance' drives. For example, when I bought some Hitachi 5K3000 'green' drives they were a little over £60, with the closest 'performance' drives being around £85-90. When there's such a large gap between them the case for 'green' drives was much stronger (as I noted earlier). However, in the last year or so, the gap between them has closed. For example, a WD 3TB Caviar Green is currently £133.92 versus a WD 3TB Black on £147.84. It's also worth noting there that the Black drive has a 5 year warranty versus the 2 years on the Green. The difference between Seagate drives is under £1 at the moment for 2TB capacity: 'green' vs 'performance'. If all the drive needs to do is to supply long-term storage then you might still feel it's worth the slight cost reduction, but the gap between 'green' and 'performance' generally isn't as large as it used to be.
Quote from dadge :because they are way slower.

yeah clearly a drive that does ~100mb sequential reads and ~70mb sequential writes (random access is ridiculously slow no matter how fast the drive spins) is way too slow to handle the usual purpose of a large drive ie saving large amounts of data like photo collections

Quote :If you have a component that is louder than the hdd (chassis fan) then what's the point in having a quieter hdd?

none of my computers including my gaming rig have fans that are loud enough to drown out hdd noise (all of theose hdds are sitting on rubber and all of them are 5400 rpm drives and i can still hear all the 3.5" ones)
the only exception would be the notebook which while playing games has a decent amount of fan noise... while using it for (flash free) internet surfing the fan is completely off and the only thing (clearly) audible (used to be) the hdd

Quote :If you want a quiet hdd, go solid state. moving parts make noise.

which is still 10-15 times more expensive so its far from viable as a large storage solution (obviously all my system drives are ssds these days with the exception of my htpc/silent-desktop for which i have the ssd lying around but lack the time to install it)
Quote from Shotglass : yeah clearly a drive that does ~100mb sequential reads and ~70mb sequential writes (random access is ridiculously slow no matter how fast the drive spins) is way too slow to handle the usual purpose of a large drive ie saving large amounts of data like photo collections

I have a green hdd and it's slow and shit. can't handle the video files I put on it.

Quote from Shotglass :
none of my computers including my gaming rig have fans that are loud enough to drown out hdd noise (all of theose hdds are sitting on rubber and all of them are 5400 rpm drives and i can still hear all the 3.5" ones)
the only exception would be the notebook which while playing games has a decent amount of fan noise... while using it for (flash free) internet surfing the fan is completely off and the only thing (clearly) audible (used to be) the hdd

I think I can reset the balance on this one... I have fans that are louder. I have an antec 900 case and those fans are big. more airflow = more noise.


Quote from Shotglass :
which is still 10-15 times more expensive so its far from viable as a large storage solution (obviously all my system drives are ssds these days with the exception of my htpc/silent-desktop for which i have the ssd lying around but lack the time to install it)

ssd prices are coming down all the time. £60 for a 128gb drive is quite affordable for what it does. They also use lass power don't they? no spin up time, access times are lower.
Quote from dadge :I have a green hdd and it's slow and shit. can't handle the video files I put on it.

you must be doing something wrong then
i use only green drives and all of them (including the unbelievably slow 2.5" drive that came from an eeepc (ie cheapest of the cheap)) can handle 1080p files just fine

Quote :I think I can reset the balance on this one... I have fans that are louder. I have an antec 900 case and those fans are big. more airflow = more noise.

unless youre massively overclocking you must be clueless about building pcs then
my gaming pc has 5 120mm case fans +cpu fan +2 gpu fans +psu fan it runs very cool and its still barely audible even while playing (the loudest noises are some high frequency stuff from the voltage regulators presumably on the motherboard and the 2tb wd green drive)

Quote :ssd prices are coming down all the time. £60 for a 128gb drive is quite affordable for what it does. They also use lass power don't they? no spin up time, access times are lower.

the currently obscenely cheap 512 gig crucial is ~350€ so to replace a single 3tb wd green drive (~140€ now ~115€ before flooding) it would cost you about 2100€ compared to 140€ for the hdd
not to mention that youd use up all the sata ports on your average motherboard instead of just 1 for the hdd
How the hell is the "rotation speed of the hdd" slower if my Caviar Green HDD says 7,200 RPM?
Quote from PoVo :How the hell is the "rotation speed of the hdd" slower if my Caviar Green HDD says 7,200 RPM?

Where are you reading it's a 7200rpm drive?
Quote from Shotglass :you must be doing something wrong then
i use only green drives and all of them (including the unbelievably slow 2.5" drive that came from an eeepc (ie cheapest of the cheap)) can handle 1080p files just fine



unless youre massively overclocking you must be clueless about building pcs then
my gaming pc has 5 120mm case fans +cpu fan +2 gpu fans +psu fan it runs very cool and its still barely audible even while playing (the loudest noises are some high frequency stuff from the voltage regulators presumably on the motherboard and the 2tb wd green drive)



the currently obscenely cheap 512 gig crucial is ~350€ so to replace a single 3tb wd green drive (~140€ now ~115€ before flooding) it would cost you about 2100€ compared to 140€ for the hdd
not to mention that youd use up all the sata ports on your average motherboard instead of just 1 for the hdd

I'm putting raw video onto my drive and editing it with 5 other videos. surely a hard drive should be able to cope with that? surely i have the mental ability to be able to manage such a small task.
yes, i have no clue how to build a pc, I must have fluked all the successful builds i've done in the past 12 years. How many hours per day are you off your effin head? the discussion is about green hdd's spinning slow. but now you're looking to spend over 2 grand on solid state drives. If you're going to pick expensive ssd's to help you make you point, you should aim a bit higher. £120 gets you 512gb of ssd. £240 for 1tb of ssd. that would be just over £700 for 3 tb of ssd. If you like, you can give me 2 grand and i'll get you 3tb of ssd.
is there any chance you could stop being a knob? just for one day?
Quote from PoVo :How the hell is the "rotation speed of the hdd" slower if my Caviar Green HDD says 7,200 RPM?

Around 5400, or is that 5800. I have three 1tb Caviar Green and one 2tb Cavier green. They are perfect for external enclosures with no fans.
The last time I bought one from a store was OEM in a brown box that said 5400rpm in the cover. Intellipower.
Quote from dadge :I'm putting raw video onto my drive and editing it with 5 other videos. surely a hard drive should be able to cope with that? surely i have the mental ability to be able to manage such a small task.

well done youre using a drive for a purpose it was never intended for and now you whine that it isnt capable of doing that

Quote :yes, i have no clue how to build a pc, I must have fluked all the successful builds i've done in the past 12 years.

if youre unable to build a pc that doesnt sound like a triple 7 taking off you dont

Quote :£120 gets you 512gb of ssd. £240 for 1tb of ssd. that would be just over £700 for 3 tb of ssd. If you like, you can give me 2 grand and i'll get you 3tb of ssd.

i dont know where youre getting your prices from but they are completely wrong
that works out as 0.29€/gb when the cheapest ssd you can buy here right now is 0.51€/gb and that from an oem with a less than stellar record in ssd reliability and has a 2-3 year old controller on it
if you want something current from a reliable company youre lookign at something in the range of 0.7€/gb more than twice your number

Quote :is there any chance you could stop being a knob? just for one day?

speak for yourself buddy
Quote from Ni-san :
This is some of the stuff I bought last weekend.

Who bit your phone on the right side?
Quote from Shotglass :well done youre using a drive for a purpose it was never intended for and now you whine that it isnt capable of doing that



if youre unable to build a pc that doesnt sound like a triple 7 taking off you dont



i dont know where youre getting your prices from but they are completely wrong
that works out as 0.29€/gb when the cheapest ssd you can buy here right now is 0.51€/gb and that from an oem with a less than stellar record in ssd reliability and has a 2-3 year old controller on it
if you want something current from a reliable company youre lookign at something in the range of 0.7€/gb more than twice your number



speak for yourself buddy

Ebuyer. In case you haven't noticed, not everybody lives in your country. I'm using the drive how it was intended. Its storing data. I'm not putting up shelves with it. I didn't say my pc was loud, I said that if there is a component that is louder than you hard drive then what is the point of having a quiet hard drive? How much more do you need to exaggerate to help you make your point?
thats a 128gb drive 4 times less than what you claimed you idiot
I said £60 for a 128 gb drive. You call me an idiot but you think green drive are better than performance drive. Good luck breaking the land speed record in your prius. If its name calling you're after then let me know. I can think of loads of things to call an asshat like yourself. You're like the cover boy for morons.
Unless you meant the bit where I accidentally miscalculated the overall price for 3tb of ssd drives. But rather than fix it, I thought it would be best to keep the mistake, just to piss you off. Dont be so mad kid.
It's ironic that I'm watch idiot abroad and also talking to you. Strange how things just work out isn't it.

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