LFS needs fender rub and sparks on closed wheel racing. Also, the Formula's visual damage is too lacking.

I like this idea, but first we need a stock car.

Im sorry, but what is a fender rub? Is this something to do with the sidewall of a tyre?
+1 sparks tho

I think in LFS Z version ..we will see more changes. become better and better..

I love LFS ..

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When the metal surrounding the car's wheel gets pushed in and starts rubbing the wheel creating a lot of smoke and eventually a flat tire.

This is most common on stock car racing

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When the metal surrounding the car's wheel gets pushed in and starts rubbing the wheel creating a lot of smoke and eventually a flat tire.

This is most common on stock car racing

This would be a great addition to the damage model but has come up before.

+1 from me...

1) It would stop the extreme low riding setups with big steering lock. People would have to trade ride height with steering lock or risk the body rubbing the tyres.

2) It would make more people get a DNF after an impact that deformed the bodywork. All the cars you see now still running with a caved in front would be out in no time with flat tyres

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This would be a great addition to the damage model but has come up before.

+1 from me...

1) It would stop the extreme low riding setups with big steering lock. People would have to trade ride height with steering lock or risk the body rubbing the tyres.

2) It would make more people get a DNF after an impact that deformed the bodywork. All the cars you see now still running with a caved in front would be out in no time with flat tyres

I agree, but I feel that aerodynamic damage should be a bit higher on the list

How often does 'normal' car to car contact result result in sparks in reality? Dents - yes. Smoke - yes. Tyre rubbing on wheel arch - yes. Sparks - no, not until the crash is serious, and LFSs damage isn't anywhere near advanced enough to do that. ISI games overdo sparks way too much.

I've only seen sparks in RL racing on two seperate occasions.

1st: Old formula 1 cars with the metal undercarriage had sparks flying all over the place on bumpy tracks. Nowadays it's just a puff of saw dust... lame.

2nd: In oval racing when a vehicle is doing 200mph on it's roof.

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How often does 'normal' car to car contact result result in sparks in reality? Dents - yes. Smoke - yes. Tyre rubbing on wheel arch - yes. Sparks - no, not until the crash is serious, and LFSs damage isn't anywhere near advanced enough to do that. ISI games overdo sparks way too much.

There will be sparks when there's a heavy crash with any closed wheel car and that's what, I'm assuming, voidone meant by implementing sparks.

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2nd: In oval racing when a vehicle is doing 200mph on it's roof.

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ik would love the fender bender idea! if you hit someone you take a risk of tires against yr fenders what result in flat tires after a while! also like in Nascar i like the tire marks on the side of the car.

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but please no sparks!! sparks comming from underneath the car because of the cerbstones are oke but plz not like this:

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ik would love the fender bender idea! if you hit someone you take a risk of tires against yr fenders what result in flat tires after a while! also like in Nascar i like the tire marks on the side of the car.

http://www.viewimages.com/Sear ... pmid=2&partner=Google

but please no sparks!! sparks comming from underneath the car because of the cerbstones are oke but plz not like this:

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I personally want a burning rubber air freshener that sprays out everytime I burn the tyres

Don't forget the one for the clutch.

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Don't forget the one for the clutch.

And the brakes

No really, if you spend 1 and a half hours driving down a very hilly mountain road you will smell the brakes... a lot

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And the brakes

No really, if you spend 1 and a half hours driving down a very hilly mountain road you will smell the brakes... a lot

And tire-smell & clutch-smell...

We should start to design odor-o-matic what adds extra realism into racing simulator. You can really (Instead of "almost") smell the gasoline and burnt rubber!

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I personally want a burning rubber air freshener that sprays out everytime I burn the tyres

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Don't forget the one for the clutch.

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And tire-smell & clutch-smell...

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Yes, a repost of a repost. It gives a little touch to thesoup, doesn't it?

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And tire-smell & clutch-smell...

We should start to design odor-o-matic what adds extra realism into racing simulator. You can really (Instead of "almost") smell the gasoline and burnt rubber!

I'd imagine that law suits would follow...

Or haxxors would make it smell of poo on other people's machines or something

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I'd imagine that law suits would follow...

Or haxxors would make it smell of poo on other people's machines or something

Hey, what would be better smell for Half-Life sewer-level other than poo? Of course it has that smell included!

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LAWL Clint Bowyer

Connie Saylor, Casey Mears, Richard Petty, Clint Bowyer, Rick Mast, Neil Bonnett..

All members of the Aussie 200MPH club

/me ducks and runs

DK

first we need a lfs where theres more active Racing servers then cruise/drift servers , Then get stuck into all the needless add-on's.... maybe one of the non lfs modders might think this is a GREAT idea and so it but i Highly doubt it

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Connie Saylor, Casey Mears, Richard Petty, Clint Bowyer, Rick Mast, Neil Bonnett..

All members of the Aussie 200MPH club

/me ducks and runs

DK

Dont forget Trevor Boys

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Dont forget Trevor Boys

Eek...you got me there. The most FAMOUS flip in history.

Negative - You won't see showers of sparks in any type of collision between two cars except in Movies and VideoGames. Sparks are little pieces of hot metal. To get a shower of sparks you need to scrape off lots of little pieces of metal really fast. Concrete works really well for that; it's rough and all the imperfections in that surface shear off metal that is rubbed against it - if the metal is sheared off fast enough it'll be hot enough to glow for a very short time. Cars are fairly smooth overall and rubbing one car against another doesn't dislodge lots of metal dust =)

Check it out on youtube - there are some really high speed collisions - you won't see any sparks coming from between the cars. The cars and the road/barricades? Of course.

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Just remembered a "great" movie with lots of sparks: Highlander

The fight between highlander and the other guy in the car park. Every time they hit a car with their swords sparks went flying like somebody was using an anglegrinder. I couldn't stop laughing at that scene.