and they survive at higher temperatures
and they survive at higher temperatures
I know what PSU I am getting now anyway what will proberly be the 650w corsair one.
Harjun, I don't think you should give out advice on building a pc, fair enough you are building your own now just don't fry it lol and plus yes it may be better to get a better OS but there is something called money and a budget but I should be allowed about £1000 for my pc as my dad is getting 6k for taking a bridge down over christmas, so i should be allowed it even though the cprsa is going in to get resprayed - Pictures of the corsa here:http://www.tunermart.com/html/ ... detail_page.php?hidId=113
Anyway I know what i will proberly be getting, I am no longer getting the ATI Sapphire 2900 Pro 1GB card I will be getting the 8800GTS 640 as people on OcUk have told me to get the BFG version as the ATI has to many bad points or not as reliable as the nvidia card.
Harjun, I don't think you should give out advice on building a pc, fair enough you are building your own now just don't fry it lol
and plus yes it may be better to get a better OS but there is something called money and a budget but I should be allowed about £1000 for my pc as my dad is getting 6k for taking a bridge down over christmas, so i should be allowed it even though the cprsa is going in to get resprayed - Pictures of the corsa here:http://www.tunermart.com/html/ ... detail_page.php?hidId=113Anyway I know what i will proberly be getting, I am no longer getting the ATI Sapphire 2900 Pro 1GB card I will be getting the 8800GTS 640 as people on OcUk have told me to get the BFG version as the ATI has to many bad points or not as reliable as the nvidia card.
Can i have a link to that discussion please?
I've yet to see any proof the ATi is "less reliable" (except the rumour that Pro's were failed XT, which was utterly smashed)
I've yet to see any proof the ATi is "less reliable" (except the rumour that Pro's were failed XT, which was utterly smashed)
I will post the link letter as I have to go school now and can't remember what they said but when I get home ill post the link.
no such thing as a 650w Corsair PSU...its 620W...and thats like, overkill
Thats the one I ment, I was in a rush when posting those 2 replys as I had to get everything ready quickly else I would of missed the bus.
Jakg here is the part of the discussion where it says about the 2900
Originally Posted by Sam1993
Cheers for that mate, the only 2 things i will change if I got that spec you done is change the graphics card to a ATI Sapphire 2900 pro 1gb and put a asus p5k mobo in, I changed my mind on the graphics card because it is as good and it's cheaper.
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No thats a waste of money, if your going to be spending that much on a GPU go for the 8800GTS 640 version.
The 1GB of Memory on the HD2900XT is just a gimmick, performance is certainly not improved by much and you would be far better going for a better card.
LOL
The 2900 Pro 1 GB has more memory and outperforms the 8800GTS 640 in most tests, and then you can flash it to an XT...
1 GB might seem a bit much, but it all adds to the resale value.
The 2900 Pro 1 GB has more memory and outperforms the 8800GTS 640 in most tests, and then you can flash it to an XT...
1 GB might seem a bit much, but it all adds to the resale value.
So you recommand a 2900 then, what area does the 2900 not do well in where as the 8800 does?
I am stuck between 2 brick walls now lol, can't work out what one to get.
Currently when you add AA the 2900 falls while the 8800 keeps going
There are the same number of nVidia sponsored (where the game is "optimised" for nVidia hardawre) as ATi sponsored games.
The 2900 Pro is an overclocking master (ie it will easily flash to become the £250 XT model).
The drivers will get a bit better, and thus the card will be a little faster, but i'm not expecting an amazing extra amount of performance to be wrung out.
ATi do have a lot better AA quality though - ie on an ATi 4x AA looks about the same as 16x AA on an nVidia card though (from what i've heard), so the big perfomance lossess when you add AA isn't such an issue.
IMO the 2900 Pro is to get back some cash and get a bigger market share for whatever comes next - the 8800's were dominating the DX10-high end, and the long-in-development 2900 XT didn't have good sales.
There are the same number of nVidia sponsored (where the game is "optimised" for nVidia hardawre) as ATi sponsored games.
The 2900 Pro is an overclocking master (ie it will easily flash to become the £250 XT model).
The drivers will get a bit better, and thus the card will be a little faster, but i'm not expecting an amazing extra amount of performance to be wrung out.
ATi do have a lot better AA quality though - ie on an ATi 4x AA looks about the same as 16x AA on an nVidia card though (from what i've heard), so the big perfomance lossess when you add AA isn't such an issue.
IMO the 2900 Pro is to get back some cash and get a bigger market share for whatever comes next - the 8800's were dominating the DX10-high end, and the long-in-development 2900 XT didn't have good sales.
So for AA you should get the 8800? Well I will have a look in to it but proberly when I get my money there maybe will be another card out what will be better
What are the difference between these 2 Q6600 Pro Energy Effecient Chips.
It says the cheaper one is the newer version what produces less heat and better for overclocking but it says the same for the more expensive one.
If the cheaper chip has only just came out but is better the more expensive chip what has been out longer why isn't the chip what has been out longer dropped in price?
Here are the links to the 2 chips:
Cheaper one:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=CP-172-IN
Expensive one:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=CP-161-IN
Or is the only difference is that one comes with a heatsink and fan and the other doesn't?
Sam.
It says the cheaper one is the newer version what produces less heat and better for overclocking but it says the same for the more expensive one.
If the cheaper chip has only just came out but is better the more expensive chip what has been out longer why isn't the chip what has been out longer dropped in price?
Here are the links to the 2 chips:
Cheaper one:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=CP-172-IN
Expensive one:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=CP-161-IN
Or is the only difference is that one comes with a heatsink and fan and the other doesn't?
Sam.
the only difference is that one is OEM and one is retail. the retail one comes with the heatsink/fan and the other one doesn't.
personally i don't see the point in getting a quad core cpu right now.
personally i don't see the point in getting a quad core cpu right now.
Well with the programs I run, the Quad Core will come in handy plus being only 15 well its a couple of months till I am 15 I don't have the money to build a new one in a years time, my dad is paying for the one I am going to build so I want to build one what will last for a few years.
A Quad Core will benefit me alot as I like learning to program and I always have loads of applications open at one time.
OEM has no Heatsink and a 1 year warranty (versus 3 years)
Nowhere has a decent price on the OEM apart from Aria (£150). It's up to you what you want to do
Nowhere has a decent price on the OEM apart from Aria (£150). It's up to you what you want to do
I think I will go with the retail version, so then I get 3 years warrenty and the heatsink and fan.
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