It's crap. I carefully thought that this would be something better mostly because of the new developement team. But seems like they have really taken "let's make a TOCA Race Driver style mainstream arcade racing game and let the marketing guys call it simulation" approach.

Sounds were poor, that was surprising. At least SimBin/Blimey has always knewn how to do that part.

Utter crap, it honestly didn't feel like the normal ISI engine absolutley no sense of speed at all GTR/rF are much better than this.

Wow! What an amazing crap peice of pap! I though it was ok, and really liking it... until the ghost car. Did a "fast" lap in the BMW, no aids (for teh woosies!), which i couldn't beat, then understeered and somehow got so much faster. Seems like you need to abuse the physics engine to be quick. Watch this "new fast lap" and it looked soooo unrealistic compared to before. Then in a rage i tried to drift. Wow, it actually worked! Apart from the fact it just stops you turning the wheel very far for no aparent reason, it's great if you wanna feel like a dorifto king, cause you just can't spin.

Downshifting? 4th to 1st? Lock the rear wheels? You slide, but keep it. How?
Then i decided that i should stop driving the BMW, and try the Seat. Put one rear wheel on the grass and it spun like a top.

Sorry, the graphics are rubbish too.

GTR1 pwned this, and imho GTR1 was crap.

(oh, and i had no "feel" - like i was floating. And the ffb sucked)

Quote from deggis :

At least SimBin/Blimey has always knewn how to do that part.

It wasnt they who knew how to do it. It's the guy they hired (who did n2003 for example and a bunch of other titles). Greg Hill its his name.
If interested in knowing his vast curriculum http://members.optusnet.com.au/soundconcepts/index

I like the new rev limiter. vroooOOOMM-TAK-TAK-TAK!!

From keeping an eye on the website for a while, it looked so promising - all i can say is i am really dissapointed with this, such a let down in a lot of areas.

Initial impression is that it feels a lot more like rFactor than GTR2. In fact, it feels very much like a mediocre rFactor mod. Given that I can't stand rFactor yet like GTR2 quite a bit, that's a big disappointment.

A given day, a given circumstance.. you have ISI physics and you're pretty much f@#ked

hm a isi game where countersteering actually works with nasty sounds and ugly cockpits ... theyre clearly copying lfs now

im told that there is a "professional" level - and if you put it on the physics are much improved (or does that mean enabled ). Will try it later!

What? There is "pro" level in the game options too.

Quote from Shotglass :

hm a isi game where countersteering actually works with nasty sounds and ugly cockpits ... theyre clearly copying lfs now

And here was me thinking it was the material things that make all the difference...

another gtr mod for 20$ lol

Well, being ISI, it's rubish offcourse.. but best ISI so far. I could really feel the understeer, and i could even countersteer! The menus are great really.. The evaluations on the road are actually felt on the wheel, going down the hill, or up, it suprised me, really. I felt less disconnected than other ISI titles, yet there are comments froim ISI fam bouys that this one feels floaty.. lol, i don't get it.

Complete rubbish, this demo... First, I had to run it windowed, as it would freeze the whole computer in full screen when I clicked time trial, I couldn't get any decent fps and worst of it all, it recognized my wheel ok, but off centre with absolutely no chance to correct that manually (only by setting dead zone to 20%, which is even more stupid) or by recalibration ingame... illepall

Even so, I also got the hovercraft-effect and I noticed the awfully overdone effects like driving over the curbs...

Thanks, I'm sticking with LfS...

Quote from Boris Lozac :

Well, being ISI, it's rubish offcourse.. but best ISI so far. I could really feel the understeer, and i could even countersteer! The menus are great really.. The evaluations on the road are actually felt on the wheel, going down the hill, or up, it suprised me, really. I felt less disconnected than other ISI titles, yet there are comments froim ISI fam bouys that this one feels floaty.. lol, i don't get it.

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Which wheel and what in-game / profiler settings do you have, please?

wow, is it an alpha version?
What is that game?
I like GTR2 but this one is very very bad.
Arcade?
Even some arcade games looks better.
Lets forget it or they need to improve physics and lot of stuff.

Am I the only person who actually likes it??

I know it's a demo, and there seems to be alot of things that have been taken out, but it's a DEMO what do you expect? I love it personally and it's made me even more optomistic for the full release! I cannot wait for it! waiting since 1999 for a proper touring car game on the PC (since ToCA2). And now it's here, well the Demo is, and I really really like it!

Quote from Barroso :

another gtr mod for 20$ lol

f1c u mean. gtr is a mod

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

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Which wheel and what in-game / profiler settings do you have, please?

It's black Momo.. I selected the Momo profile in the game, and didn't change anything else. FF on full, reverse effects On, and i put Professional mode if that makes any difference at all..

Same as me then. Can't say I share your view of the game though

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Can't say I share your view of the game though

Don't get me wrong, i said it's rubish, but a bit less rubish than rFactor.. Maybe a bit better than GTR 2 too.. It still the same old caned effects(yes kids, there are candys in the game.. yayyy...) and the same hoverkraft effects..

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Same as me then. Can't say I share your view of the game though

try the g25 profile
im not saying its good but its certainly a whole shitload better than anything that ever been done on isi engines

Another demo that is lackluster. These programmers are really not trying anymore .

You guys are all just so.... EMO!!!

Yes, after being tortured with having to test RACE, I'm so pained I'm going to mutilate myself to Nightwish *cries*

congrats on learning new vocab, EK