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-DrftMstr-
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does anyone has the S1 skinning wireframes?
-DrftMstr-
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LFSforum users should create a fanclub for the devs.
-DrftMstr-
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Quote from mxpxun :Hello, does anyone know when next patch is coming?

Let me rephrase the question.


Are the 3 developers still on the LFS project? Or are they already in the Bahamas hiding?

Better yet, are they still alive?
-DrftMstr-
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more delays
yay.
i wonder why i stopped playing.
don't count me in for S3.
I'll need to plan my retirement first, it will come earlier.
-DrftMstr-
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WOOT! Engine fire feature!!
-DrftMstr-
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-BMW 3 series E46 preferably the 330i with the sport pack.
-Lexus IS250 manual. You won't be disappointed by the quality of the finish.
-Infiniti G35 coupe / Nissan Skyline 3500GT manual. A softer version of the Z33 350Z if you are looking for a daily driver.

Then, if there are money left, get some nice coilovers and a set of Rays. Then you'll be set for some quality hot girls hunting.


Oh. And people that tell you that accidents are more likely going happen with your first car: rubbish.
-My first car was an Acura/ Honda 3.2RL One massive car to drive when you live in downtown Montreal and park you park in an indoor parking lot daily. Never had any accidents.
-Then it was a E34 BMW 525i manual. Never had accidents with a manual RWD car in winter ( ice/ snow/ and everything in between)
- I now drive a 2006 545i few times a week. And I switch between a EK4 Civic. Never had any accidents.

For a first car, that's a good start, they all say that because they can't financially sustain the risk.
-DrftMstr-
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Quote from PLAYAPIMP :lol yep

simple thing i just started to edit so here it is

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nice skin, I wonder where you got that kit.
-DrftMstr-
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Actually, you surprised me when the SHO was actually faster then the E34 M5. Very surpised. And you don't have to apologize lol. You didn't make those cars, did you?

I still stand on the 5 choices I selected :P.

Oh.

6. Taurus SHO done right.
-DrftMstr-
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Quote from wark :+1 all the way. With every reason.

...and motorcycles.

haha from an American too.
-DrftMstr-
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Quote from PAracer :Alright. I'm not going to put a whole lot of time into time. I'm a little drunk, and it's not on topic. But...

http://bmwe34m5.com/articles/e34BMWM5_CD_1990.pdf
http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/images/CD_SHO.jpg
http://www.motortrend.com/road ... 93_ford_taurus/index.html

ajp71- I'm sorry you had issues with an American car. The Taurus X has nothing to do with the original except for the name. I hope you weren't confused. Any and all comment relating 'sport' and 'Taurus' are only to be made for the SHO. The SHO and regular Taurus models had many, many differences.

welcome to 1990. Americans cars are still rubbish. So what that it beat the M5 back then? Let's see a Taurus 2008 beat a 2008 M5. Oh wait... it's got a SMG mated with a V10.

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I will openly admit: I hate American cars. I don't hate Americans, but simply hate American cars. Let's bring this discussion a bit more upscale.

Against my will, my father bought a brand new 2005 300C back in 2005. We paid a whole 47k $ with all the option, sat nav, etc. For 47k, we get a 1970 Hemi. It is great yes 340hp rear wheel drive monster for 47k. We paid 47k for half leather seats, rubber dashboard, loads of plastic, and a sat nav that wasn't working after a week. The manual mode of the transmission was all wrong, and the brakes, well, they are probably good to stop a Civic, but not a 300C. Good thing we sold it after 6 months.

With about the same money, we got a 545i, much better build quality, a real 4.5L DOHC V8, not some prehistoric pushrod V8. It was real leather seats, and awesome build quality. The iConfuse system is rubbish but at least BMW got 99.5% of the car right. My aunt drives a 323i, never had a problem, ever. Uncle drives a 330i, no problems either.

My OTHER uncle drives a Ford Fusion. Tacky, slow, slushy handling, and infested with small problems every month. A friend drives a Malibu, rubbish. The new G5, crap, i've never been in such a boring and unresponsive car. The Aveo, would struggle to get off the line with 4 people. And not to mention the Taurus. A coworker kindly borrowed me his car to do some errands. shocks, what shocks?!!! floats like a boat. On the exit ramp of the highway, the car rolled so bad. And you know what's the best example: the American's best sports car the Corvette ZR1: leaf springs. nuff said.

Just imagine cheap American cars... For all I care, even if the SHO beat the M5 in 1990, I would ( and did) still buy an 18 year old BMW over a Ford.
Now go get drunk and soap in this idea that there are other things other then American cars.
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-DrftMstr-
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Quote from PAracer :I've known several people who made a Ford Taurus as their first car. Most were the 3.0 or 3.8 v6 with auto tranny. I made mine the 220hp, stickshift version. SHO for those in the loop. Cheap insureance, cheap buy-in price, decent on gas. Keep in mind that the SHO was comtetition for the 5 series Bimmer back in the day. When it was introduced, they were near the top of the heap of sports sedans.

A nice SHO would run you $2000. Mid 20s combined mileage. I pay $35 a month insurance. You're out near Pittsburg, right? I know a couple guys out that way that stockpile used parts.

Good luck, and for the love of god, stay away from v6 Mustangs and Camaros. That is, unless you've got a set of tits.

Sorry my friend but a Taurus is not match for the E34. Not... even... CLOSE. Match it against the M5 and this Taurus is a standing duck.
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-DrftMstr-
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1. Nissan S14 with a KA-T or SR20.

You will find a decent S14 on Zilvia with an SR dropped in it already or maybe the KA-turboed. The S14 is such a marvelous machine and track potential. All that shouldn't cost you more then 9k. Look for coilovers, no rust, a nice body and a clean swap. I don't even want to start with how this is an awesome car.

2. Honda Civic EK9 hatchback with a K20

I have a Civic at the moment. It is VERY cheap on gas. I can do 6L/100km on smooth traffic days. I don't have the K20 but K20's are going for about 3-4k US$ nowadays, 1k to drop it in, and a base EK9 costs about 3k. You still have money for coilovers, subframe braces, a 4 big brake upgrade, and some nice lightweight rims. With your budget, don't waste money to get those B16 or B18 swaps, the B-series are old and the 21st century tuning will be focused on the K20. If anything ever do break on the K20, visit your local Acura or Honda dealer and get the parts.

3. BMW 323i E46

They are close to 10k in the US nowadays. BMW's have been around me all my life and if it breaks, it will cost you an arm and your left nut. Bimmers are marvelous to drive, great handling, great response, very interior. I had a E34 525i 5spd and this thing still drove like day 1. ( I had Bilstein/H&R shocks, springs though, the ultimate E34 upgrade) If you can afford something bigger like the 545i, don't get the iConfuse system. I had to go to the dealer twice (even under warranty) to get that stupid computer fixed. back on topic, don't get the 320i, it's such a rubbish, 2.0L inline 6 with no torque. 323i, or 325i are some good choices. Make sure all electrical stuff works, I mean ALL. Sorting out an electrical issue on a BMW is very expensive. But if you pick a very clean E46, the feeling is rewarding.

4. Volkswagen Passat B5

A friend has one. The B5 is based on the Audi A4. Those cars does feel like an Audi and unlike the usual belief that VW catches on fire, those are very reliable, and most important, very good build quality. Make sure the timing belt is changed before you buy one. Just like its cousin A4, the Passat is a pain in the ass to change the timing belt. For a 10k budget, you can a decent one for 6k and slap some springs/shocks ( Bilstein/H&R combo) or coilovers and some nice rims, and you're set.

5. Subaru Impreza type RS

Not the newer generation with round headlighs, the one before. They are cheaper, generally reliable and more suited for winter then the above 4 choices. It also sips more fuel then the other 4. I'd check if the transmission is in good condition. They tend to go caca after 10 years.


Good luck man.
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-DrftMstr-
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new old screenshot.
I did some bodywork on the FXR
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BigFatCat
-DrftMstr-
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Quote from Niels Heusinkveld :1) take it to a track day and learn
2) go to 1
3) goto 1
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20) get some new brakes
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30) change rollbars and springs/dampers
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50) increase engine power a bit..


Sounds like you're at -1 and want a 500hp engine. Thats the wrong way round. With better brakes and perhaps a small suspension upgrade, half of that power will still be plenty, and not unimportantly, actually achievable.

exactly! well said. But I would add a good suspension before step 1. then you're set.
-DrftMstr-
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word of advice:

-fix any rust or dings.
-get the five lug conversion ( get the Z32 brakes while you are at it)
-get a decent set of coilovers.
-don't bother with a RB, my experience is they are a pain.
-if money is left, rebuild your KA24DE and turbo that thing.
You'll be close to 350whp on pump gas.

Might want to slip in a new Kouki front bumper + tailights+ nice set of rims somewhere in those steps.
I suggest 16", personal opinion ( but R33 GTR rims works like a charm )
-DrftMstr-
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I change wallpaper twice a day so it's not even worth posting it.
-DrftMstr-
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I live in HK 3 months a year, does that count?
-DrftMstr-
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Time will come.


(Typical egnimatic response from our beloved Nuvolari)
-DrftMstr-
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Quote from Jb11 :Hellaw Guise. I'm sorry if I ain't drifting around right now... Just having my last school exams and it's a bit tough. I'll get by, do not worry har har. Looking forward on seeing some JDM*F members there, in NYC!


DRIFT DRIFT DRIFT

will do.
-DrftMstr-
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I smellz competition.
-DrftMstr-
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wow. insane. Taavi and Lynce, replying with edits one after the other.
-DrftMstr-
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Quote from AstroBoy :Ive been around long enough to see the collapes of the well respected drift community and the age of new airhead wannabe drifters quite a shame really.

But LFS itself has grown like i have with the time ive been with it so a fair while is my guess.

Yeep. Same here.
Just that I've been missing in demo when the well respected teams were making their names on S1....well, minus the occasional Yashio manji.
-DrftMstr-
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Quote from RS-R DriftDancer :this one has been done for a while... finally getting around to posting it...

Inspired by the RS-R TC conversion as well as Kumakubo's Evo. Enjoy!

Quality stuff.
-DrftMstr-
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That was my decoy.
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