Quote from Racon :

I had a little adventure with LOD2, back at the start of modding.....

I had the exact same issue, yes, lots of swearwords
I could rebuild the messy LOD1 because it wasnt using mirrored half car
But now I cant rly touch my LOD2 anymore to get that poly count down, well then, that will be for the next mod.

With Lightwave3D we had kind of same issue when 1 point was shared with 2 polygons that we needed to be separated in an atlas projection UV map.
When we were selecting 1 point to move, the other shared point on the UV map was selected aswell, and we had to be carefull to deselect it before doing things on the first point.
New version added an unweld function that would allow to get quite faster workflow with UV's.

So maybe in editor we could have some function to be able to unweld LOD1 and LOD2, and then weld back those points wich didnt move after we worked on the LODs.

amazing shading
top job again !

Yes, great mod overall.

2 things u could improve :
- headlights are a bit weak intensity
- it sounds like a UF1

oh lol
to me it was looking same
ridicule copyright pitfalls...

"marigus" mod
https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/E1BC02

it has magirus insignia on the rear
https://www.lfs.net/attachment/569961

has been published in that state.

@vichon
5 bans in less than a month... nice achievement. Please find another server, we dont want such users.

@Scawen

It is good that the other thread got closed, I've been asking for this already.
Maybe you want to close this one aswell.

Regarding the forum noise when people complain, we mostly warn people and they get a kick before a ban, but there can be exceptions because of the time needed to explain and warn every bad driver.
It is really amazing that so much people just don't care.

We have also a set of rules and a !help command. But people who dont care, dont care this aswell.
We have a log for the bans, where we have reason of ban, ban duration, number of past bans, and a access to ban history of the user.

if someone gets a ban and it is his first, it is usually 12h
the 2nd ban should be 3 days but is most often also 12h
the 3rd ban should be 7 days but is most often also 12h
the 4th ban should be 15 days but is most often also 12h
the 5th ban should be 30 days
the 6th ban should be 180 days

yet, we have hundreds, yes hundreds, of people with more than 3 bans, and some with 10 (at that point a perm ban is issued)
How can one get even 6 bans if we behave like we would in a normal social context ?
we also have dozens of shared accounts perm banned.

I believe we do warn enough, and tolerate enough mess aswell.
What we dont have is a dedicated forum for users, however there is a discord thing where people can report bad drivers and upload mpr's (i dont know much about this, i dont use discord, other admins handle it)

I also believe people get reason and duration of the ban if they try to reconnect, but am not rly sure.
Insim is coded by server owner, and that guy is quite away from lfs most of time, so updates are slow to come.

but well, I, have spent years, updating my own insim for my own server, 15 years ago almost. I was dedicating 12h+ for lfs everyday, it's a never ending project, and people always ask for update and cant read documentation, you know that well.
so now, I am not willing to spend so much time with lfs, and even less time managing users who cant behave, so I dont explain things that much :
many people also never get a ban, so there is actually nothing to explain, people know how to behave, bad drivers just dont do it, whatever u write or warn., they come to challenge the others drivers and the rules, and they call it "freedom" or "fun".

I will however check that people are informed of the reason and duration of ban by insim, if they are not, i will wake server owner up so he adds a few line for the code to do this.(but it would have been nice to have something built into lfs for this, I miss it since forever)

it's not incoherent, but rather that u dont understand.
Each time u write here, u write bullshit, because u dont understand.
You are only noise.

Luckily for me the 2 other troll kings of the forum are in forced vacations. Phew.
"Just one left, Gromit !" (Wallace & Gromit and the Wererabbit)

Quote from johneysvk :

you ok?

hey troll !
it seems u have hard time understanding basic things, like respect for example
if u cant be contstructive, please avoid answering

hey,

-am "staff" (notice how u use business langage like JaR was a business or state institution, nah, just use the usual word : admin)

- i dont use discord, and wont ever

-90% of server is made by how users behave.

- this thread should not be there, there is always a user to scream after being banned, most times because he believes JaR is a business, or that he paid for it when buying LFS, or that admin are paid by Scawen or state sponsorised, anyway he believe he is owed something... and that is a schizophrenic trait : those people live in a weird, fantasmagoric world

I'll put it there because I just love that definition (it describes the everyday people in the everyday stupid things they do and believe)

'schizophrenia is a serious mental disorder in which people interpret reality abnormally. Schizophrenia may result in some combination of hallucinations, delusions, and extremely disordered thinking and behavior that impairs daily functioning, and can be disabling.'

How about you then, reader ?

that kind of pictures only show finished parts and is not convincing at all to me
take a look at some examples of nice WIP thread from people who also made a "original work" mod.

https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/107068-Lemon-Duckling
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/97196-LORY-GP5
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/105115-Dorito-Lucy-130R-%281969-Mazda-R130-Luce%29
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/105673-bmw-3-series-e36
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/99518-Ultimate-Road-Car

also why did u model those wheels with such details ? weird for a lfs mod project

It could well be that u grabed some low poly model ripped from some game, screenshot some views of it and we wouldnt see any difference with what you are showing here. Think about it.

maybe something to flag a mod wich doesnt meet publication requirement anymore, has it been changed/updated, or review didnt see the issue.

example here on the "marigus" mod
https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/E1BC02

we can see on mod photo that it has magirus insignia on the rear
https://www.lfs.net/attachment/569961

wich is exactly the same as what we see in reality
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Magirus-Deutz_230.jpg

maybe button in the vehicle mod page, that would open some dialog to write reason of the flagging, and if reason is found valid, mod would be unpublished until issue is fixed

well then
I am not the admin who banned you, but I checked the log :
Capybarja : Constant crashing, ZERO minimap use, ww - Banned 15 days.

Now I see you are all fresh new player and make a thread here when there is already a thread for that matter.
Then I guess you are the kind of person who just dive in the pond without any care of how deep it is.

When you are a new player, you want to observe how things are done, what are the rules and usages to avoid splashing the people all around like you did on server and make noise like you are the only one.

You are unbanned, also because you are new player, but please have some respect for the community, as I wont waste more time explaining basic things = you wont be unbanned twice.

Welcome.

Agreed, nice addition to the approved mods list.
Almost all other drag mods are forbidden on Just a Ride, but that guy knows how to build dragsters, and make this kind of racing interesting again.

@sami
banned on january 6 for speed hacking
you are unbanned now
plz care

Quote from Scawen :

[...] But something tells me to always be very tolerant and give tiny short bans even when long ones seem deserved.

It's pretty hard doing this job when under attack so often.[...]

I find it truly amazing that u can have so much patience and endurance. And the LFS sim reflects this. Hats off.

@spoiled kids

once again people are about being "competitive", when it should stay a passion project that allows its authors to keep developping it after 25 years.
I rly dont care about hype graphics or crowded grids, my computer would not handle those graphics, and I wouldnt handle the noise of the crowd.
I would probably take a long break if lfs got crowded that much, as the ban list would grow along with it, and the list of new mods submissions...
You guys should stay on those crowded hype competitive sims instead of writing noisy bullshit to only vent your frustration here.
Spoiled kids.

I tried bummer 7, yes it is well made graphically but I didnt get anything close to the feeling of houssem's cars.
Also bummer is public so why do u even mention it here ? hmmm
I should have restrained myself to comment on houssem's car because then it would attract noise makers ? baaahhh not nice.

I hated bavarias until I drove Houssem's, he builds them by the book as much as he can and they handle amazing. Just try them.
Top job. Houssem president.

Quote from chucknorris :

It's easy to say that if nobody can verify that.

(...blabla...)

Hence why I proposed to have a solution built-in right into LFS that would enable to identify individual hardware. But it's ultimately up to Scawen to decide whether the issue is big enough to undertake such steps.

am not sure why u need to invalidate that 7.5% when it is a fact, yes it is based on IPs and we dont need more than that to get a global view of number of shared accounts (yes, I didnt write rented account as u imply in ur post
hhowever I see u still need to blame other people for the issue and dont even think of changing anything in ur handling of it, again it's the job of other people to fix the mess that u still help to create (neutral stance, u wrote it)

(I expect partisan reactions with facepalms and question marks yes go on it's telling so much lol)

Quote from klbbadd2002 :

JaR is basically jail for people banned from TC. Its an ongoing joke for quite sometime now. So it makes sense that a lot of your connections are shared accounts.

we have the same joke actually : people getting banned from JaR go to Freedom Factory server
superlol

Quote :

I was trying to discuss things, you were taking it as attack and accusations.

I fully agree that.
Scawen presented facts, TC guys answered with nonsense and denying and they needed 5 pages to recover a little bit of reason, but they still dont admit explicitely that the problem mainly spawns from their server, while pushing forward that they "saved" LFS for the last 2 decades.
Hum...

edit:
kipieslim made some tool to detect shared accounts, and wrote this morning that 7.5% of Just a Ride connections since november are shared acounts.
People use them to evade bans.
1. they get banned with their own account
2. they go TC server and farm TC money
3. they rent another account with the money they made on TC
4. they get back on JaR, evading the ban.

Last edited by turbofan, Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:19.

what an amazing amount of spiritual misery and cognitive blindness here.

Scawen, just remove that siren feature !

Quote from Vilix :

and now suddenly it's unethical and promoting inequality?

not sudden, it always has been, but now u see the long term results

Quote from Vilix :

By that logic, how is it equal or fair that I play with a 10 dollar office mouse, but someone else is using a 2000 dollar simulator setup with clear advantage on LFS? How is it equal that rich people who can afford S3 get to enjoy it and benefit from all the cool things it gets, but poor people who are stuck in S2 cannot?

"mum he started, not me !"
why would you promote the very things u spit on everyday ? (i guess u spit on inequality, but i may be wrong after all)

Quote from Vilix :

At the end of the day, the TC cruise server is a relaxing server with a compact community

this doesnt need a currency to happen

well, TC created a server where u have to drive to get money to buy new cars.
Now realize that the simple fact of being able to get that TC money in exchange of something else, "assets" as u write it (hmm, here too, think about it for a second lol that word), literally kills the spirit of the server.
There are other ways to give new drivers some starting bonus.

Atm, if u have friends or real money, u get an unfair advantage (cheating, yes) on other players who dont. This recreate the breeding grounds for the IRL world capitalistic perversions to emerge, when u could have taken advantage of having control on a virgin virtual world and use some imagination to create and experiment new ways, new mechanics, that allows to keep things out of the "monetization of anything" craze.
Fail.

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one-eyed people reacted

Last edited by turbofan, Sat, 24 Feb 2024 10:32.