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PLAYLIFE
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Quote from kdo :+200000

+300000
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from Scawen : If we can get some S3 content ready before the tyre physics is finished, then it can be released,

PLAYLIFE
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Quote from Scawen :Look! The ridiculous conversation starts immediately!

Why don't you just file a lawsuit against the hacker!?
PLAYLIFE
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"rehvid" is the more appropriate word in this case.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from Sobis :I'm thinking about buying a new processor, but I'm not really good at these things. Any comments about this CPU?

I have it and Radeon 4850. Very suffiecient for LFS. Newer games could do with newer hardware but my CPU is not definitely an issue. I recommend when you are looking for bang to buck.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from dawesdust_12 :I email my boss about 30 times a day.

What does that mean?

You have an affair with your boss!?
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from Amynue :Stop trolling me

When three people catch you making a mistake or just outright lying its time to admit it. Not start calling everybody names.
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Quote from Amynue :It's not my personal feeling:





Yea, video would make more sense, but still not much. You have to play it to get the real idea what the new physics is like.

Learn to read. That comment says nothing of the sort what you are.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from Amynue :Physics updates have to be done and are almost done

Says who?
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from Scawen :Yes, I was also asking myself what I am doing here...

I am quite pleased with the contact patch / tread simulation at the moment, several recent updates resulted in more interesting and realistic handling. But there are some aspects of the current tyre model that do not change in the same way as a real tyre, for example with changes in pressure or load. This is due to the lateral deformation of the tyre's carcass (the cords and wires encased in rubber that hold its shape).

So my current focus is to get the real time model's carcass deformation to be a better approximation of reality. It's different with every tyre but there are of course common things between all radial tyres. LFS tyres won't be exactly like any particular real tyre but they need to be good tyres and obviously behave like ones that could exist.

So I've been looking at a tyre simulation to answer these questions. It's a sort of virtual tyre test rig I've had for a long time but it needed some improvements. It represents the cords and belts of a tyre held in shape by the tyre's pressure. The general idea is to make that simulation a good approximation of reality, so it can fill in the gaps, giving me more answers than I can get from the various real world test results I can get my hands on. It doesn't run in real time, and takes a couple of minutes to run its tests and generate the results. It's in those periods I've been checking my email and some post notifications have sent me in here to see what's up.

I don't mind the usual criticism but when I see sarcastic or insulting posts then I'm tempted to react, either as a developer or a moderator... when it gets too annoying, I guess I'll unsubscribe again.

Scawen, if I may.

Firstly, I think what you are doing - the efforts to making handling etc more realistic is a noble one. We get several racing "simulators" a year with new content and I am feeling indifferent every time I have tried them - the handling just isn't realistic at all. Soon I just drop them. LFS has been a simulator in the past for me from which I drew great pleasure of for several hours in a row.

Secondly, LFS hasn't had new content (and by content I mean a few tracks and a few cars) for a couple of years now. It's like screwing the prettyest model in the world. At some point it will not be exciting as the first 100 times.

Now I am not the one who wants to shout or demand new things and please don't get me wrong. That's not what I am trying to say. I respect the fact that' it is Scavier's simulator and not mine. However, I would just love it to bits if we could get a few new tracks and cars to drive on - not for free, mind you. I'd be perfectly happy to pay a lot of money for them if I knew I wasn't renting them (as in iRacing). They don't need to be perfect right away. Make them raceable now as in current S2 handling - it is perfectly cool the way it is now - few simulators can match it anyway and it would give the community immense amount of pleasure. Then work on the new tyre/handling model for a few years again - let's be honest, few have tried to make as good handling model as you are trying to do and I bet even god doesn't know how long it can take. And the better it will be the happier I will be. But I just wish there was a few new tracks to drive the cars around on.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from V16 :So the price of S3 should increase because of inflation but the price of S2 should stay the same? So S2 is immune from inflation somehow?

Well, in theory prices of old goods and technologies should go down with time. IT software suffers from moral amortization of around 33%+ annually which makes an assumed inflation of 2% annually a much smaller factor.

It should be expected for a game to cost less as time goes by (see Steam for how much old games cost - not much). However, Scavier has continued the development of the game so I guess this is the main reason they have kept the price the same.

In conclusion, in theory you should expect the S1 and S2 prices to fall in the medium to long term and expect S3 to cost more than £12. Ofcourse, Scavier could make various decisions that are not based on this logic or this logic alone. The reduction in workload of Victor or the weakening of the British pound could come into play aswell... I'm just saying that don't get your hopes up on S3 costing £12 - it could easily be more (or less) and you should not state it as some kind of fact as you can't really know.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from V16 :Yes, because software companies always raise their prices because of inflation. Better buy S2 now before the prices rise due to inflation!!!

Wow. It's amazing how I only spent 24 pounds (~58 Canadian dollars) for a video game. It's probably worth a lot more now because of inflation!

A new edit. OK, I don't know what you are trying to say here, but inflation exists on the cost and revenue side of businesses.

However, inflation does not mean that something is worth more now than it was before. It means that the value of money has gone down. So if you bought something 5 years ago for £12 and now sell it for £13 (adjusted according to 2% inflation annually) you can still by the same amount of goods as you could before because their cost has gone up aswell... But if you don't get it anyway you are not going to get it with me trying to explain it to you and you acting as an arrogant brat.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from V16 :Yes, because software companies always raise their prices because of inflation. Better buy S2 now before the prices rise due to inflation!!!

Who said anything about S2 price? We're talking about S3 price. You are way off topic here.

And if you think new games will still cost the same after 5/10/50 years the games still cost the same you are out of your mind.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from Furiously-Fast :You know how everyone here likes to speculate. It seems kinda realistic anyway, with each upgrade costing £12.

Realistic my a**... Ever heard of inflation?
PLAYLIFE
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Why is everybody so convinced that S3 will cost additional £12?? Why not 14 or 16? Stop presenting your pretty bad guess as a fact!!
PLAYLIFE
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I'm planning on migrating to Windows 7 in the next few weeks. So I should announce my future system and not present?
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from [d9] :i always thought, that only demo racers cutting the track

i always thought, that only demo racers dont know, how to clear their stats on lfsworld

i always thought, that only demo racers trying to resolve their "problems" posting that titled requests to devs


Well, you are not much of a thinker, are you
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from ATic ATac :I reckon this game is the best value for money i have come across in my life because you can keep playing it for years, so i don´t mind what the future S3 license will cost....

but please release something!!!!!!!

It´s just the wait is killing me

ditto
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Quote from Scawen :Anyone who upgrades to S3 must do so only if they think it is worth it for the new track and the new car.

Some of us will do it just to support Live For Speed.
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Quote from hazaky :Whats this stuff about? He needs to pay money, because he told that he will pay in this forum? Did he gave a signature for this? No ... pointless discussion for or im really getting something wrong?

A signature is given for identification purposes. If he logged into the forum then he already identified himself. Don't talk about things you don't understand.

Quote from GrIp DrIvEr :WHAT!!!! I was kidding!!!!! man someone is a retard!!!!! What is your problem!!!!!! You guys don't understand some Americans... it's called SARCASM. Check it out...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm

Also, why would I give $1000 away?

That's not even close to sarcasm. The link you were looking for is this:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lying
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from hyntty :Anyone notice how Heikki misspronounces his own name

Yeah, I did.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from ATC Quicksilver :My dog thinks Ralf sucks, scratch that, my dog knows Ralf sucks.

LOL, my dog's balls know you suck.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from jrs_4500 :''NFS HP2 is finished, LFS is not.''


LFS is going a bit slower than NFS though. :P

''Did you ever think that maybe LFS being detailed and realistic is fun? That's pretty much why all of us play it.''

Maybe the cars handle more realistically, but that's the only thing it has going for it.

LOL, that's pretty much everything I ever ask for in a racing game/simulator - realism

Although I have to agree that the graphics could be upgraded.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from BBO@BSR :He completly failed last year in DTM
so will be the next year.
This guy is totally overrated imo
they just took him because of the name and publicity.

I agree but with not the overrated part. So he did bad in DTM - so what. It's not like Mika or Alesi or HHF destroyed everyone in DTM. And its not like he didn't give JPM, Hill and Trulli a good run for their money in F1. Lets not compare apples with oranges please.
PLAYLIFE
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Quote from smove :Seems that was a rather bad try then. Of course I know him, but for me he stood and always will stand in the shadow of his brother.

For me you seem like a person who is judging an F1 driver based on the results of his brother. Or you think it is a fair comparison to compare any driver with the driver who achieved the most in F1!? I think you are incapable of unbiased observations.
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