Quote from Viperakecske :

@gu3st , like this

ok

Quote from Scawen :

I think I removed this as it looked like something that needed some proper updating.

I discovered it as it was one of the things spamming up the error log, which I was trying to bring under control. I didn't ask for the job of website maintenance but I got it anyway, and to my mind, part of that job is reducing excessive server load and error spamming.

My memory may be a little vague but I think it was recreating this world record pack every so often (can't remember exactly but... too often) and each time it did, there were many errors. I thought, this large file can't really be downloaded that often so why is it recreated so often. It seems like a "sledgehammer to crack a nut" type of solution and I really would prefer the web server to run more lightly, not constantly creating large files that people rarely want.

It seems to me that if there is really demand for such a file, there must be a better solution, that could be implemented at some point. Maybe some kind of solution that creates something more relevant, when required.

Anyway, although I am veering off topic a bit, after my recent efforts I am quite happy that there is around 10 KB of error text each day, quite an improvement over the 30 MB per day I inherited.

Just add
to the top of the file

Quote from bayanofmansorofisky :

There's other method involving android phone. Works great and i have tried it. Here's a full manual on how to setup that:
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/106433

Alternatively something like https://apps.apple.com/us/app/smart-head-track-for-opentrack/id1531547793?platform=iphone on iOS then you just need to make sure your phone can see your face. Bonus is iOS has IR hardware for facial recognition/pose so it'll be more accurate too.

Quote from UnknownMaster21 :

Yup... this is where it is going... what's next though? We all are getting more and more restricted by any reason, while at the same time everything is supposed to be "free for all".

I highly understand the decisions, but motives do vary a lot... some of them being far more sinister.

I do not remember if I ever used Imgur in a way or another. I assume this still works with vpn? Unless all vpn's gets restricted too.

The UK government is just particularly awful (in a sea of awful governments) when it comes to technology.

They also keep trying to demand Apple introduce a backdoor into their encryption which doesn't even make sense from a technological perspective.

Quote from Nucle@rRacer :

Is there still a possibility for a standalone viewer or specifically a possibility to have a web-based 3d-skin-viewer?

It's not super usable for painting but https://www.lfs.net/cars/XRT does show your uploaded paints on the car in browser.

you won't be able to load mods without an internet connection either.

Quote from SpEeDy A-M :

Flame catching a stray 😭

sometimes you gotta look at who's throwing the dart

Quote from UnknownMaster21 :

I don't know so I ask this:

Is there any proper difference between HDMI and DisplayPort connection ( other than the obvious ones? )

Meaning if using that software. For example, the difference is significant in DisplayPort use?

Shouldn't matter in most cases outside of a few random things like nVidia won't do GSync over HDMI (where AMD will do FreeSync over HDMI) even if the display is compatible with FreeSync. Might be able to do higher bit colours over DP at higher resolutions but that's not super relevant under 4k resolution

Watching some replays (and updating to the right version!) looks really really sweet. Some great driving at the front and the track doesn't really look out of place in LFS either which made it even more "immersive".

I love the little touches too like the animated hot air balloon too

Quote from michal 1279 :

I can smell some conspiracy theorists gonna use LFS as a proof of why the Moon does not exist

the moon is not real

Quote from Marty_Deslions :

Im actually curious why not just release it abit. These two track look wel dome and ready to go. Sure you may want it to be 100 percent perfect, but I guess many players would like it to just be released, and some tiny bugs can be fixed later.

You can even release it and when players are in the loading sceeen of the new south city or kyoto to show "THIS TRACK IS WIP" so people dont complain about minor bugs on these maps

Lighting would be a good potential example of an incompatibility. In our current version of LFS, tracks have a handful of prebaked lighting+skybox situations to choose from. If the new version has removed the way that works in favour of a dynamic solution for time then the old tracks straight up might not work or otherwise have massive issues until revised.

And no amount of "THIS IS NOT FINISHED" will silence people. Cyberpunk2077 had a ton of videos with "THIS IS PRE RELEASE FOOTAGE THINGS MAY CHANGE" and people still think that things like wall running was cut content/broken promises.

Quote from sinanju :

Are you talking about my older drag system with the 'xmas lights' layout rather than my newer and simpler set?

Did you use the AU1 drag layout I bundled with the drag.lpr set? This is required as the code needs the car to enter into various marked zones to trigger the light sequences.

Did the lights come on as per my video?

Did they come on, go through the sequence, but then didn't clear from the screen? If so, did you use the !dragoff command?

My script was written a lot of years ago, and the lapper code has been updated since then, so there may be some issues there, in which case, maybe try Bass-Drivers system.

demo user won't be able to use AU1 or any layouts for that matter

Quote from Ped7g :

Just made me thinking...

...how much work/cost would be allowing also rental model for people who struggle with basic math and concept of saving money (although I can imagine life situations where even 1k TL could be difficult to save over year, but maybe such person should focus on other things in life than PC and games)?

(this is not serious suggestion, sorry Scawen, just dumping overloaded brain. I like the lifetime license - shows moral integrity of developers which is welcome change in today's world for me ... well, one really far fetched option would be monthly rental until some total sum (like ~150% of S3 price) is paid over time and then changing rental license to final license, thus being "money lender" business on LFS dev team and making everything more complicated, although maybe lowering entry barrier for people like OP)

Just gotta add Klarna as a payment option and people can finance their 36 GBP biweekly

Quote from mobius-1 :

if we ignore the whole "cant buy because too pricey" thing, wouldnt adding live for speed to the steam store (considering scawen added a 30% price increase to cover steam's share and still get the same amount as he would selling licenses here) give greater recognition/advertisement? i'll be honest i have no clue how that process would work but i feel steam would give atleast a considerable boost in sales

There's a lot of work that would need to go into managing how Steam and LFS accounts interact. The "simple" way would be for each "DLC" on Steam to just give a 12GBP voucher code and leave licensing entirely on the LFS side to unlock. But that can be clunky and still has a labour cost ensuring Steam has a suply of voucher codes. A "better" integration would be to have an LFS account be linked to Steam and then some mechanism of syncing DLCs to LFS.

IIRC there's also some incompatibilities to how LFS is structured as a business that Steam doesn't like. Not sure if that state has changed given the changes in tax codes over the years (as well as GB leaving the EU). If this was still the case, there'd be costs to restructure the business as well.

Quote from Byrontr :

After paying for the game, nothing will happen. Tax rates are very high in my country, so I don't have the money to pay. We're missing out on many features. Furthermore, if the game is uploaded to Steam, it will generate a lot of revenue because most features are unlocked.

Currency may be exchanged for goods and services.

Being on Steam wouldn't magically make features unlocked either. Plenty of games on Steam offer subscriptions or DLCs. Assuming Scawen wanted LFS to go on Steam (he's indicated consistently against it) the exact same business model that LFS currently has could be implemented.

LFS could be a "free" game as the Demo with each S1/S2/S3 as their own DLCs to unlock each level. Added bonus is that each stage would need to cost mode to keep the existing margins.

Unless you somehow think that being on Steam would make it easier to steal which you'd also be wrong.

Quote from Byrontr :

Remove the S3 event from the game and upload the game to the Steam platform. You can earn income from downloads. I am Turkish and S3 money is very high in my country.

So Scawen would need to raise the price by 30% then to get the same revenue after Steam's cut.

Quote from Pukyy :

Perhaps a feature to disable the track lightning?

This seems wildly unsafe!

Quote from Viperakecske :

Maybe if we could just get a rough estimate of when it is, 4months or 4years

the patch has actually been done for years but every snarky comment delayed it by a week

Sounds like they want

Basically anyone with a 900deg wheel should never have any issues. Set LFS and your wheel up at 900deg and never think about it again.

The one thing about Logitech wheels (outside of G Pro) is that the FFB is just not strong enough to really enforce a bump stop outside of the physical 900deg stops. It'll give persistent resistance once you're outside of it, but it doesn't take much to outmuscle.

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Quote from Viperakecske :

I can take over the development once Scawen had enough.

finally LFS will have realistic jiggle physics when you take over

Quote from tankslacno :

Scawen, one question about unlock codes: I know they're not one-time type codes, meaning you can use that same code as many times as you want.

However, if I (or in worse case, someone else) request to send an email containing that new unlock code, will the old code that I've already used in-game instantly become obsolete? Or is it that unlock code becomes obsolete only after the new unlock code has been used in-game at least once?

If it's the former, better not to accidentally click that link In any case, the latter option is definitely safer, because there's always a possibility someone has found out user's LFS password for the site, but doesn't know how to access their email. In case the current unlock code becomes obsolete instantly when someone requests a new one, one can simply annoy other users by requesting new unlock codes and preventing them accessing LFS with their older unlock code.

AFAIK it functionally works like your old password which gets checked by the master server when you request server list.

Quote from kristofferandersen :

Seems pretty clear what the community wants

I'd like to just mention the torrent briefly, as someone that plays around with torrent files quite frequently. They're genius, great tool to download more efficiently. Though it is only efficient when there's a fair share of seeders, which i can already assume there's not for LFS.

Yeah I am seeding thousands of torrents these days.

Things have changed a bit because getting media legally is easier, but at the same time the rights for that media is more in flux than it ever has been so no longer is the "legal" option for many things the best path.

Plus I really love Linux ISOs

Quote from cargame.nl :

giant quote of ocean boiling nonsense removed

Just know that I think less of you for using AI and being not even a little bit ashamed of it.

Quote from Bokujishin :

Yeah, first of all, why 59? 2*26 letters + 10 digits is 62, remove O, 0, I and l and you get 58.
Then the result itself is wrong: 59^20 is 2.612 403 355 × 10^35, while the AI basically said 7.573 809 985 × 10^33 for some reason...
and 58^20 = 1.855 922 647 × 10^35

I tried ChatGPT out of curiousity and while it seems to have the right "logic" and even knows it should be 58^20... it calculates it as 8.97x10^34 which is... not right lmao

If I had to guess for Grok's answer, it's parsing the 1-10 and including 0 in the character set because AI is really stupid and doesn't actually think